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The_torpedo said:
Gibbsy crow28 if possible can we move all the posts regarding the LGBTI+ topic to the RCT
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Can do. Happy for civil discourse to take place but we'll move it somewhere else. If it gets out of hand/abusive I'll shut it down.
 
KBLT said:
To help LGBT people deal with all the shit they've taken all of their lives from people like you.
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Okay buddy, let's not accuse Lynton of being a bully..

And I don't want to open this can of worms, but people of the 'No' campaign were definitely bullied by the LGBT community last year, so I don't know if that whole "we've been bullied because of blah blah" can be considered valid anymore.
 

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At the end of the day Lynton is a young lad who will probably look back on this and cringe as he grows and understands it all.
Sometimes it's easy to forget age difference on here as well.

My advice Lynton is forge your own views by how you meet them, not what you read in emails/others views.
 
Andonis1997 said:
Okay buddy, let's not accuse Lynton of being a bully..

And I don't want to open this can of worms, but people of the 'No' campaign were definitely bullied by the LGBT community last year, so I don't know if that whole "we've been bullied because of blah blah" can be considered valid anymore.
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I'm not saying he did anything. I don't know the guy. I just know a lot of people who act that way.

Being bullied for your sexual orientation/gender identity VS Being bullied for trying to deny someone else's rights because you don't like the way they are. Not exactly the same thing here.

That being said, some of the things said were too much. But lets not get into that. The post was only providing an example of why a society is needed.
 
Andonis1997 said:
And I don't want to open this can of worms, but people of the 'No' campaign were definitely bullied by the LGBT community last year, so I don't know if that whole "we've been bullied because of blah blah" can be considered valid anymore.
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Haha good one
 
Andonis1997 said:
I can't be diplomatic to both sides? :)
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Don't think there's much to be diplomatic about, really.

LGBT+ people being bullied is an unprovoked action, discriminating for no acceptable reason. "No voters" being bullied is a provoked action as it's a group of people who are discriminating for no good reason, in an attempt to restrict a group of people of a fundamental right.
 
Freight Train said:
Don't think there's much to be diplomatic about, really.

LGBT+ people being bullied is an unprovoked action, discriminating for no acceptable reason. "No voters" being bullied is a provoked action as it's a group of people who are discriminating for no good reason, in an attempt to restrict a group of people of a fundamental right.
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That's fair, I won't go into it any further. Thank you :)
 

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Freight Train said:
Don't think there's much to be diplomatic about, really.

LGBT+ people being bullied is an unprovoked action, discriminating for no acceptable reason. "No voters" being bullied is a provoked action as it's a group of people who are discriminating for no good reason, in an attempt to restrict a group of people of a fundamental right.
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From the 'no voters' point of view theyre right and LGBT community and anyone that supports them is wrong. Theres 2 sides to every coin just because you think they were "discriminating for no good reason" doesnt mean its something that they dont believe in
 
just_kick_it said:
From the 'no voters' point of view theyre right and LGBT community and anyone that supports them is wrong. Theres 2 sides to every coin just because you think they were "discriminating for no good reason" doesnt mean its something that they dont believe in
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Belief should never come before rights.
 
just_kick_it said:
From the 'no voters' point of view theyre right and LGBT community and anyone that supports them is wrong. Theres 2 sides to every coin just because you think they were "discriminating for no good reason" doesnt mean its something that they dont believe in
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On the same side to the coin you're referring to, belong white supremacists who attack and murder black people etc.
 

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just_kick_it said:
Is that your belief?

Maybe but just because you think something is wrong doesnt mean everyone in the world agrees with you.
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Just because someone doesn't agree something is wrong doesn't make it not wrong.
 
Freight Train said:
Just because someone doesn't agree something is wrong doesn't make it not wrong.
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Its all opinion and beliefs. For instance Im guessing you voted yes for gay marrige so the 30 odd percent of people that voted no disagreed with you and theyre entitled to their opinion just like you are. Theyre wrong in your eyes and youre wrong in their eyes.
 
just_kick_it said:
Its all opinion and beliefs. For instance Im guessing you voted yes for gay marrige so the 30 odd percent of people that voted no disagreed with you and theyre entitled to their opinion just like you are. Theyre wrong in your eyes and youre wrong in their eyes.
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yeah, no shit.

you’re digressing from the point to make some pseudointellectual point of how there is no right and wrong because right and wrong is a perception thing.

in which case hey, let’s let paedophiles do what they want because in their eyes, it’s not wrong. let’s let wife beaters carry on in their ways because in their eyes, it’s her fault.

like - what point are you even trying to make?
 

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