Is it really harder to go b2b than win 2 premierships with a gap year?

[Benny78]

I personally think it's a lot harder to win two premierships over 3 years than 2 years.

My reasons are:

• More change in the competition
• Retaining club culture and premiership standard for longer
• Unable to be thwarted by hungry oppo coaches and players, for 70+ rounds compared to 45.
• No honey moon peroid
• No media pressure or assisted belief
• More exposed to changes in your list, players and culture.

 

[Brutalitops]

Is this because Geelong lost in 2008?

 

[BF Tiger]

I'd take B2B any day. Sustained excellence across two seasons.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

When you see it's a cats fan OP...

 

[Rich01]

Back to Back harder for sure.
Defending the crown while being the hunted.

 

[Benny78]

Is this because Geelong lost in 2008?

So are those your reasons why b2b is harder to accomplish than a 2in3?

 

[SilentHunter_]

Surprised that this Alias has not been permabanned yet.

 

[Furn2]

2 with a gap but win the one in between as well.

 

[Matchu]

Going to back-to-back is harder IMO. The team that has won the most recent premiership will always be the 'hunted' and have more pressure in that regard than the other 17 teams. We saw the Bulldogs crumble under that pressure last year.

 

[Brutalitops]

So are those your reasons why b2b is harder to accomplish than a 2in3?

The fact that Geelong didnt win back to back despite having two opportunities to do so should indicate to you that 2 in 3 is easier to accomplish than back to back.

Next thread please.

 

[BF Tiger]

I personally think it's a lot harder to win two premierships over 3 years than 2 years.

My reasons are:

• More change in the competition and you're allowed to change with it
• Retaining club culture and premiership standard for longer except for that year in between where you didn't retain premiership standard
• Unable to be thwarted by hungry oppo coaches and players, for 70+ rounds compared to 45. Even though actually thwarted by oppo coaches and players in the middle year
• No honey moon peroid but maybe a premiership hangover
• No media pressure or assisted belief could work either way
• More exposed to changes in your list, players and culture.but you're also an attractive club for players to come to

De-bunked

 

[BF Tiger]

The fact that Geelong didnt win back to back despite having two opportunities to do so should indicate to you that 2 in 3 is easier to accomplish than back to back.

Next thread please.

They actually had three opportunities.

 

[footyfan1978]

Why not do both?
Win one, have a gap year, then go back to back..
Get your best bang for buck that way.

 

[footyfan1978]

They actually had three opportunities.

Hawks had 3 opportunities in 80's too. Ironically it took them playing Cats in 89 to finally get there. Two or three minutes more and they would have got done and missed out.

 

[Benny78]

Going to back-to-back is harder IMO. The team that has won the most recent premiership will always be the 'hunted' and have more pressure in that regard than the other 17 teams. We saw the Bulldogs crumble under that pressure last year.

From my experience watching football reigning premiers aren't actually hunted. It's more or less the opposite. From what I've seen oppo clubs are usually stunned with fear of the built/hyped up premiers and get thrashed, knowing they're playing this big scary side hyped up by the media. It's not like they have 17 other clubs hunting them. They have 17 other clubs shit scared to play them already calculating their seasons around not winning those games. It's an advantage.

It's only when these clubs show signs of falling clubs really go hard at them and hunt them. We weren't hunted until around 2015 when everyone saw weakness and really really went hard at us. The same will happen to Hawthorn, clubs go/will go hard when they show weakness. That's another reason why I'd suggest 2 flags over a longer period is harder. You don't have that reputation as a club anymore that gives you that advantage on match day.

We didn't show weakness during our gap years, therefore weren't hunted and just stunned younger sides, so we were hunted no less than a reigning premier, clubs were still shit scared.
I haven't actually seen any clubs hunted besides Geelong and Hawthorn tbh 3 or so seasons after their last flag. Never a reigning premier.

 

[BF Tiger]

Off the top of my head... clubs that have gone back to back:

Hawthorn
Brisbane
Adelaide
Essendon
Carlton
Richmond
Melbourne
Collingwood

 

[Ok Boomer]

Two in a row is harder. The latest start to pre season, potentially more injured players coming back later, higher expectations and every other side would be gunning for the team.

 

[archibald]

So much harder. Having gap years is tough. You initially think it will be all sex, drugs and rock n roll but you end up in factory working the graveyard shift wearing a poorly designed moon suit with failing safety features hoping you won't be infected with asbestos poisoning.

Point is Geelong are really good. The best.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Off the top of my head... clubs that have gone back to back:

Hawthorn
Brisbane
Adelaide
Essendon
Carlton
Richmond
Melbourne
Collingwood

We have. Broke a league record (still standing) of 23 wins in a row in the process.

 

[longsuffreosupp]

Is it easier to have an orgy two nights in a row, or have a day off in between?

 

[Barry_Badrinath]

I personally think it's a lot harder to win two premierships over 3 years than 2 years.

My reasons are:

I barrack for Geelong

EFA

 

[Benny78]

Off the top of my head... clubs that have gone back to back:

Hawthorn
Brisbane
Adelaide
Essendon
Carlton
Richmond
Melbourne
Collingwood

That's a fair few. I'd imagine around only 4 or so clubs have managed to win 2 with a gap year. Probably even less.

 

[Cevap_Roll]

Is it easier to have an orgy two nights in a row, or have a day off in between?

Same people or different people?

 

[Catsace]

Off the top of my head... clubs that have gone back to back:

Hawthorn
Brisbane
Adelaide
Essendon
Carlton
Richmond
Melbourne
Collingwood

'51-52 for the Cats

 

[Art Vandelay_]

That's a fair few. I'd imagine around only 4 or so clubs have managed to win 2 with a gap year. Probably even less.

6 have. Carlton (x3), Dees, Cats, Eagles, Hawks and Tigers.