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To Round 13, Carlton have won just 1 game from 12 this year.

In the last 4 years, Carlton's win% for rounds 14-23 has been half of that for rounds 1-13.

Not sure when things will improve for the club.
 
maskmcgee said:
And why would it mean anything different? Rising Star nomnations are based on one match. What relevance is a 99 point loss 14 months earlier?
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We’ll make it clear in your statement then.

“Biggest loss prior to receiving nomination”

Means exactly that .. prior.. before..so all those losses I pointed out occurred before nomination.

Wording too vague.

Why is a big loss the round before the game they got nominated for of any relevance anyway?
 
So it actually means greatest loss in the round for which they got nominated.

That was the last thing that I thought off reading the intro.
 

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The Gold Coast Suns are playing their 8th season, and are still to beat two teams - the Sydney Swans (8 losses) and Adelaide Crows (11 losses).

Their record against Port Adelaide is also interesting. The Suns beat the Power for their first ever AFL win early in 2011, but have not beaten Port since.

The Gold Coast don't hold a winning record over any opponent - the best (at the time of posting) is break even with North Melbourne, the Suns and Kangaroos sharing the honors at 5-5.
 
Utterly ridiculous loss by North to Gold Coast in R1. North will account for them in R16.

Couple more Gold Coast Suns stats:
- never had a 20,000 crowd v North Melbourne
- never has a 15,000 crowd v GWS
 
gcsunsfc said:
We’ll make it clear in your statement then.

“Biggest loss prior to receiving nomination”

Means exactly that .. prior.. before..so all those losses I pointed out occurred before nomination.

Wording too vague.

Why is a big loss the round before the game they got nominated for of any relevance anyway?
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No apostrophe required in Well.

As to the relevance of the table I created 15 days ago, I think it is fair to state this thread is mainly about researching and delivering interesting stats and trivia. I thought of this particular stat and decided to research it as I knew nobody else had so far posted it. Sometimes my motivation comes from trying to think of a stat nobody else has come up with. So the relevance relates to the fact that a particular player has received a Rising Star nomination even though his team was thumped. To me this indicates a wonderful achievement to be given the nomination because it makes me think: how many other eligible players were there, and yet this particular player, despite the dire performance of his team, wins the nomination. It is similar to receiving three Brownlow votes when your team has been beaten by in excess of ten goals.
 
worbod said:
No apostrophe required in Well.

As to the relevance of the table I created 15 days ago, I think it is fair to state this thread is mainly about researching and delivering interesting stats and trivia. I thought of this particular stat and decided to research it as I knew nobody else had so far posted it. Sometimes my motivation comes from trying to think of a stat nobody else has come up with. So the relevance relates to the fact that a particular player has received a Rising Star nomination even though his team was thumped. To me this indicates a wonderful achievement to be given the nomination because it makes me think: how many other eligible players were there, and yet this particular player, despite the dire performance of his team, wins the nomination. It is similar to receiving three Brownlow votes when your team has been beaten by in excess of ten goals.
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Yes I appreciate that. I’m not disputing the validity or useful of the stat.

When I read your post though it seemed that the loss just had to come at any time prior. That is the wording.

Not the week for which they were nominated.

I only pushed back when challenged
 
No player kicking 50 goals by R17 since 1960
2011 - Jack Riewoldt (RI-47)
1961 - Tom Carroll (CA-49)

Ben Brown currently leads this year with just 35 goals to R13.
 
https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/...l/news-story/afe3c608b79c6f76bce50cb2e4ee589e

Ben Brown kicked 5 goals and is now on 40.

40 - Ben Brown (68)
35 - Jeremy Cameron (47-52) (about to be suspended for 3-5 weeks)
31 - Lance Franklin (59), Jesse Hogan (53)
30 - Jack Riewoldt (51)

At the current rate Ben Brown should win the Coleman from Lance Franklin. Both players are averaging 3.1 goals per game, but if Ben Brown slows down, we could be looking at the lowest total since the 1960s.

54 goals - Tom Carroll (CA-1961)
56 - Bill Young (SK-1956), John Peck (HW-1965)
62 - Doug Wade (GE-1962)
65 - Jack Riewoldt (RI-2012)
 
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Carlton play Collingwood today.

Carlton's total wins in R14-23 in the last 4 years: 6
Carlton's total wins in R14 in the last 7 years: 0
 
emuboy said:
The Gold Coast Suns are playing their 8th season, and are still to beat two teams - the Sydney Swans (8 losses) and Adelaide Crows (11 losses).

Their record against Port Adelaide is also interesting. The Suns beat the Power for their first ever AFL win early in 2011, but have not beaten Port since.

The Gold Coast don’t hold a winning record over any opponent - the best (at the time of posting) is break even with North Melbourne, the Suns and Kangaroos sharing the honors at 5-5.
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Actually, that is nothing like a record.

The Brisbane Bears took until their tenth season to beat fellow newcomer West Coast (13 losses and 1 draw in 1992), and until their eighth to beat Collingwood (11 losses) and Essendon (10 losses).

Footscray took until their ninth season to defeat Collingwood (10 losses) and took until their seventh season to defeat Melbourne (11 losses and 1 draw).

North Melbourne took until their twelfth season to defeat Richmond (18 losses), and until their ninth season to defeat Collingwood (12 losses).

However, all this is dwarfed by impoverished, amateur-ideal-dominated Hawthorn, who took:
  1. until their twelfth season to defeat Richmond (21 losses)
  2. until their fifteenth season to defeat Carlton (25 losses)
  3. until their eighteenth season to defeat Collingwood (29 losses)
If we exclude the special circumstances Collingwood faced during World War II from 1942 to 1944 when most of their top players were absent in the forces abroad:
  • Hawthorn won its first peacetime win over the Magpies in Round 4, 1955!
  • 1955 was Hawthorn’s 31st VFL season and 28th peacetime season
  • Before losing 12-3 (75) to 12-12 (84) in that Round 4, 1955 game, Collingwood had won 46 consecutive peacetime games over Hawthorn!
  • Only in the very last of these when the Hawks lost by four points, was Collingwood pushed to within a goal, and in only two other games (Round 2, 1930 and Round 17, 1939) to within two goals.
If Gold Coast continues to struggle, which is by no means implausible, their first wins over Adelaide and Sydney might still be some years in the future.
 

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Stonehenge said:
Carlton are surely making new records with their low scoring.
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Even having played over two seasons without scoring a century, Carlton are not quite halfway to the post-1919 record of 96 games without reaching 100 points by St. Kilda between Round 7, 1951 and Round 11, 1956.
 
41,674 for Fremantle v Brisbane today, record WA crowd for Brisbane surpassing the 41,524 v West Coast in R16, 2005
 
red+black said:
The upcoming Queen's Birthday Clash between Melbourne and Collingwood should see the biggest if not 2nd biggest crowd between the 2 sides since this game became a regular fixture. Melbourne are on 8 wins and Collingwood 7 which is the on average the most both sides have had going into this match. Melbourne are 3rd on the ladder and Collingwood 7th which is on average the equal 2nd best they have been behind 2006 when Collingwood were 3rd and Melbourne 6th. And with both teams flying high that year almost 79,000 people attended which is the best for this fixture.

86,664 - #1 ME v CO QB crowd (1964) since 1960
80,310 - #1 R12 crowd (2008) CO v CA
78,773 - #1 QB crowd (2006) since 2000

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What about the record H&A Crowd of all time in 1958?!?!? Seems arbitrary to date things from 1960 when the MCG was ringed with increased capacity in 1956... Olympics.

https://afltables.com/afl/stats/games/1958/041119580616.html

Melbourne v Collingwood (Queen's Birthday Monday June 16, 1958) - Crowd 99,256.
 
Arbitrary? Since when has Melbourne v Collingwood been a permanent fixture every year? Oh yeah, since 2001.
 
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Ron The Bear said:
Collingwood plays its 2500th VFL/AFL match today (Carlton 38 games adrift).

Meanwhile GWS will play game #127, leaving University alone on the bottom of the table.
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Originally posted on page 149.
In achieving this milestone, Collingwood also became the first club to play 10,000 quarters.
 
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