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Oh cool. Let him know I'm a big fan - it's hard to find good comedians these days.Pete Evans says hi
Oh cool. Let him know I'm a big fan - it's hard to find good comedians these days.
True. But, in his defence for that particular (and only) example, dem boobies...Talk about cognitive dissonance - won't let his wife put on sunscreen because of foreign nano-particles invading her body BUT is quite happy with her breast implants. Its beyond satire
Proper drug trials account pretty easily for the placebo effect via the double blind process.
This may well be true. But take prozac for example. I'm reasonably confident drugs such as that are routinely given out regardless of clinical need. Is that the placebo effect, patient whingeing or GPs getting kick backs?
Is overprescription not a major problem?
Certainly is.
Chemical intervention is often the only way to go if you are well and truly off the rails, but the latest evidence on lower levels of mental illness suggest any number of things, including diet, exercise, CBT to be more effective.
Same boat here. I think most mild cases of mental illness could be cured with exercise and/or talking therapies, but severe illnesses need to be attacked from every angle, often including medication.For me, I need medical intervention.
I eat a mostly plant based diet, hardly eat sugar, exercise regulary and am being treated by a psychologist doing CBT.
But without the brain chemistry being rectified by medicine I just fall into a vicious cycle. I was also against anti depressants and lithium to begin with because I thought it would numb me but I am on a good mix that is having a positive effect on me.
Same boat here. I think most mild cases of mental illness could be cured with exercise and/or talking therapies, but severe illnesses need to be attacked from every angle, often including medication.
Unfortunately medication is often used as a first resort by GPs even for mild mental illness, from what I've been told.
Certainly is.
Chemical intervention is often the only way to go if you are well and truly off the rails, but the latest evidence on lower levels of mental illness suggest any number of things, including diet, exercise, CBT to be more effective.
Yup, much easier to take a pill than to get to the gym 3 times a week or cook your own healthy dinner each night. But you can't blame people for trying, when depression or anxiety may have drained their energy levels to the point that getting out of bed feels impossible, let alone exercising.Yeah, I think it's just easier to give some pills and say you'll be right for some GP's. "Here you're feeling bad. Here's some Zoloft." But I think some people also expect that they get anti depressants because I think they think they work like antibiotics.
But my GP's didn't try to force any pills on me until I said that I knew I needed them.
I think there is merit to the imbalance theory, the environmental theory and any other theories. I know I have been on around 15 psychiatric drugs, and many made my condition worse. I had such bad ocd and anxiety that I was house-bound for a while, Howard Hughes style.The chemical imbalance theory is paid scientific nonsense.
It's been admitted to as a marketing strategy to sell prozac. All the marketing gurus from the other companies followed.
There is no test for what they claim about chemical imbalance hence why placebo works better than the real thing
A select few off the rails need chemical intervention. But the majority don't. These drugs causing carnage
The chemical imbalance theory is paid scientific nonsense.
It's been admitted to as a marketing strategy to sell prozac. All the marketing gurus from the other companies followed.
There is no test for what they claim about chemical imbalance hence why placebo works better than the real thing
A select few off the rails need chemical intervention. But the majority don't. These drugs causing carnage
So Goldacre is dropping truth bombs when he critiques the pharmaceutical industry - what of his critique of alternative medicine? Is that on point too? Or does your affinity for his work end where he disagrees with you?It's a difficult subject to speak on when you have people with addictions to these drugs saying they work. Were inna thread about pseudo scientific nonsense and people with brain damage defending that very thing for very personal reasons.
This is long but it's actually real science.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?311149-1/bad-pharma
Post of the month. Worth a bump.Shame, I thought this was a new thread on Jordan Peterson.
It's a difficult subject to speak on when you have people with addictions to these drugs saying they work.
Were inna thread about pseudo scientific nonsense and people with brain damage defending that very thing for very personal reasons.
but it's actually real science.
So Goldacre is dropping truth bombs when he critiques the pharmaceutical industry - what of his critique of alternative medicine? Is that on point too? Or does your affinity for his work end where he disagrees with you?
Being a science forum, it would be good to get threads like these off on the right track. Free from delusions and bullshit. it would be a good idea to use real facts, real science.
NASA's own science shows no man landed on the moon.
This guy wrote the regulations concerning use of anti depressants by airline pilotsDid that come from a Scientology website?