Topping boys from all states? Someone at East Freo with a weird sence of humour.
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Topping boys from all states? Someone at East Freo with a weird sence of humour.
Or don't know what topping means hahaTopping boys from all states? Someone at East Freo with a weird sence of humour.
Mike Ellis is the 18s SSWA coach, not the 12s.Mike Ellis? Anyone would be lucky to have him as a coach. Also, Boys 12's don't have as teacher as coach but have managers and Tour Leaders who are teachers.
School Sports WA would think they are doing it properly and have been for years. I thought the divide between SSWA and Districts was mutual, maybe not or maybe the influence of new coaches. I think the SSWA coaches are competent and dedicated but the main problem I see is that they don't get to see all the best players, or get overloaded with underage players and are under pressure to pick the team as soon as possible so parents have opportunity to fund raise. One of the most successful years was when WA was allowed to put in two teams. Coaches could train and see the boys longer before picking the A and B side as all were travelling.
I understand the Districts thoughts that players haven't reached maturity and boys understand different player could get picked at different ages because of this.
Dstricts have their own 15's carnival but that is months before the SSWA Carnival and this could only be beneficial experience for the boys with expert training and help on offer. I think SSWA should be limited to a one year age (no students 13 turning 14) unless unusual circumstances.
Basketball obviously have strong connections to their districts because of Mike with his own District and his knowledge of others through all the games they play as well as selection. It's asking a lot for the football coaches to be aware of all the district players but they do have connections and also have connections to some football specialist schools.
16s certainly had coaches and expertise in S & C to burn with about 20 support staff altogether funded by the AFL, so its temping to think they should be sharing some of that money around, where SSWA has zero money.
Not sure mate, just saw Jed Hagan on the East Freo Football Club site with a little spiel about his performances over the carnival....Hagan comes from Geraldton which is in East Fremantles country zone..
isn't he the kid who made the 15s last year when he was still only 12 which would make him only 13 now?
yep agreed. looks like he has matured early from that photo. I would have picked him as 17ish! not sure where you go from there but good luck to the young bloke.Yes thats what I heard as well. Sounds like he a gun player, but I think you create a lot more negatives, then you do postives when you select a player who is 3 years younger then the standard...
Correct, I was saying as well as the Basketball 18s not having a teacher as coach, neither does the SSWA Basketball 12s (another touring team).Mike Ellis is the 18s SSWA coach, not the 12s.
View attachment 535405 2018 all Australian 15s
Who are the names?
I can see a Parish there.
Sorry mate was only a photo didn’t have names listed
The kids only 13 hard to believe he topped boys that are close to turning 16.Topping boys from all states? Someone at East Freo with a weird sence of humour.
No he is in year 8Hagan captained the WA 12s in 2016, played WA 15s last year and this year....so pretty sure that makes him 14....also played for EF year 9 development squad at a 2018 WAFL carnival....so year 9 is 14yrs old?....think a few others in the 15s AA pic look about 17ish more than Hagan....esp a few in the back row?
Time will tell I guess.....doesn't look like some 6 foot plus man child tho....seems talented at a variety of sports to state level....as you say early success doesn't translate into later success...
Great Post. I couldn't agree more.But then you look at guys like Swallow, O'Meara, Martin or Hogan who were prodigies from these schoolboy age groups who have gone onto succeed as professionals.
Point being there is no one size fits all development theory, every kid is different. As long as these programs continue to provide the kids with a healthy (but competitive) pathway and work is put into keeping the kids & their families grounded then I think it's a good thing.
But then you look at guys like Swallow, O'Meara, Martin or Hogan who were prodigies from these schoolboy age groups who have gone onto succeed as professionals.
Point being there is no one size fits all development theory, every kid is different. As long as these programs continue to provide the kids with a healthy (but competitive) pathway and work is put into keeping the kids & their families grounded then I think it's a good thing.
It will be hard to compare to last year. If this year is now based on Year of Birth, the year 8's from last year will now be split - half into the 14s and half into the 15s. some individuals will benefit from this and some will not depending on where their birthday is. best thing to get it back in line with the 16s and beyond.Really enjoying reading everyone’s comments lots of valid points made. Will be interested to see this years development games and the new up and coming talent around. Last year Subiaco and swans seemed to dominate in the year 8A,but with the changes to age groups this year will be interesting to see if things change.
It will be hard to compare to last year. If this year is now based on Year of Birth, the year 8's from last year will now be split - half into the 14s and half into the 15s. some individuals will benefit from this and some will not depending on where their birthday is. best thing to get it back in line with the 16s and beyond.
totally agree. cant think of another sport who do all their club stuff in school years but their rep teams in birth years. actually, maybe hockey do. and some basketball clubs. but rugby - league and union, netball, soccer, athletics are all year of birth straight down the line. no confusion for anyone. that said, I cant think of any rep teams in wa who look at school years so birth years at rep level is the standard. sucks for the December kids but that's life, just as it sucks for the june kids in school years. swimming are the fairest - you swim in the age group you are on that particular day of competition.Best thing imo is to get it in line with the club footy structure, school years so its consistent across the code.