News Crows Press Conference - The Fallout Continues *now with poll*

[Geoffa32]

Did someone say the AA drivetime ratings went up recently...

Rowey says just enough to reel people in. But not enough to do any real damage.

That is why he has that job.




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[Elite Crow]

I’m sticking to facts whereas you’re all emotion. I’m happy to stick to facts regardless of who is in agreeable or not.

Here is a fact, you belong to a group including Jenny, Subaru, Adman and Wayne.

 

[Roovolution]

Maybe Tom doesn’t know given he was collapsed an all.
So rucci has never gotten anything right?
I think people need to realise journalist do have sources and not everything is made up and everyone is out to get the crows.
Of course if it’s all rubbish I’m sure we’ll see everyone in court.

So someone better tell Tom. Maybe he’ll suddenly demand a race.

If you’re going to use Rucci as a source for anything please go to the Port board as you’ve lost the plot.

 

[FR0GGY]

I know you went on some camps once, doesn't make you the guru of all camps.

But care to find me two posts where I have changed my argument, shouldnt be hard since you are making the claim and its happened 20 times.

That was the other two gurus I think.

 

[Roovolution]

Here is a fact, you belong to a group including Jenny, Subaru, Adman and Wayne.

Lol

 

[Elite Crow]

I’ve never been on a camp and never claimed to.

Really? Youve not drawn on your own experiences?

So found those examples of where I have changed my argument 20 times?

 

[FR0GGY]

So someone better tell Tom. Maybe he’ll suddenly demand a race.

If you’re going to use Rucci as a source for anything please go to the Port board as you’ve lost the plot.

I just asked if you believe it, I didn’t say it was fact.

 

[ad victoriam]

They are now investigating

I know I said last time. but please learn to read.
The AFL and AFLPA have NOT just started. they have been looking into it for a while.
You do understand a highly respected AFLPA rep is on the Crows Playing List and was at the Camp. You do understand the AFL and AFLPA have a reporting system that allows the complainant secrecy and anonymity.

The camp was a stuff up as it did not achieve the desired results, it was a disaster because of the events that followed.
Some people did not like it, some liked it.


Other personnel are using it to get out of contracts, same as Lever change his tune from money to family reasons.

Get a grip you are starting to let it affect your daily life. move on to 2019.

 

[Elite Crow]

Lol

I know right.

 

[Elite Crow]

I know I said last time. but please learn to read.
The AFL and AFLPA have NOT just started. they have been looking into it for a while.
You do understand a highly respected AFLPA rep is on the Crows Playing List and was at the Camp. You do understand the AFL and AFLPA have a reporting system that allows the complainant secrecy and anonymity.

The camp was a stuff up as it did not achieve the desired results, it was a disaster because of the events that followed.
Some people did not like it, some liked it.


Other personnel are using it to get out of contracts, same as Lever change his tune from money to family reasons.

Get a grip you are starting to let it affect your daily life. move on to 2019.

So where are the facts they have been looking into this for awhile?

But then why are they still investigating if it nothing happened on the camp?

You dont know what happens in my daily life.

 

[FR0GGY]

So someone better tell Tom. Maybe he’ll suddenly demand a race.

If you’re going to use Rucci as a source for anything please go to the Port board as you’ve lost the plot.

Did you not hear Tom on the radio a month or two ago, didn’t want anything to do with the camp.
Is he a good source?.

 

[Roovolution]

Really? Youve not drawn on your own experiences?

So found those examples of where I have changed my argument 20 times?

See how you change your argument? You’ve gone from “you’ve been on a camp” which I denied and now suddenly it’s “you’ve never drawn from your own experiences”

Classic.

 

[Roovolution]

Did you not hear Tom on the radio a month or two ago, didn’t want anything to do with the camp.
Is he a good source?.

No I didn’t hear Tom on the radio. What do you mean he didn’t want anything to do with the camp?

So he’s gone from the camp to re-signing to not wanting anything to do with the camp. Confusing.

 

[Geoffa32]

They are now investigating

Got a link from the AFL.or AFLPA announcing an investigation?
I for one would applaud such action to get it all out there and dealt with before next year.



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[FR0GGY]

No I didn’t hear Tom on the radio. What do you mean he didn’t want anything to do with the camp?

So he’s gone from the camp to re-signing to not wanting anything to do with the camp. Confusing.

Not wanting to answer questions about it, same as Eddie.
Not confusing at all.

 

[ad victoriam]

I’ve never heard them say the AFL are investigating it.

Rucci has made a career of making shit up.

Gillon McLachlan mention it. and because the Aritcle in question was dated Ausgust 31 Some actually believe that was the date the investigation stated.
"But McLachlan concedes that the reluctance of the Adelaide players to formally complain about the controversial three-day “mind camp” run by Collective Mind is thwarting the AFL understanding just what did happen on the Gold Coast in late January"
“I have asked questions of my integrity team,” McLachlan said. “They have had a look at it. They do not have any information for me at the moment that creates specific concern.”

 

[Roovolution]

Not wanting to answer questions about it, same as Eddie.
Not confusing at all.

Because they don’t want to fan the flames of the media crap? Because the club has instructed them not to talk about it?

Or because they’re traumatised by it?

Big difference.

 

[Roovolution]

Gillon McLachlan mention it. and because the Aritcle in question was dated Ausgust 31 Some actually believe that was the date the investigation stated.
"But McLachlan concedes that the reluctance of the Adelaide players to formally complain about the controversial three-day “mind camp” run by Collective Mind is thwarting the AFL understanding just what did happen on the Gold Coast in late January"
“I have asked questions of my integrity team,” McLachlan said. “They have had a look at it. They do not have any information for me at the moment that creates specific concern.”

Yep and even Caroline Wilson says they believe “there’s nothing to see here”.

No players have made a complaint.

 

[FR0GGY]

Because they don’t want to fan the flames of the media crap? Because the club has instructed them not to talk about it?

Or because they’re traumatised by it?

Big difference.

If you listen to it (sorry I don’t know exactly what date it was) you’ll get the context.
Also Don said at the club champion the other night “in seeking mental gains maybe they pushed to far”, I don’t think he’d say that for a hunky dory preseason camp.

 

[Elite Crow]

See how you change your argument? You’ve gone from “you’ve been on a camp” which I denied and now suddenly it’s “you’ve never drawn from your own experiences”

Classic.

Now you are being pedantic. You’ve previously said you have experienced similar training through your armed forces training. It might not have been a camp but you brought it up as a comparison to counter any grievances to what the players experienced.

Sure I generalised it by calling it a camp, but how is that a change of argument? If that’s all you’ve got, when are you going to take back I’m changing my argument?

The facts are I laid out my “agenda”. You picked up the camp part and have run with it, ignoring each time I’ve had to reiterate my argument and claim I’m changing it. Why would you do that?

 

[Elite Crow]

Gillon McLachlan mention it. and because the Aritcle in question was dated Ausgust 31 Some actually believe that was the date the investigation stated.
"But McLachlan concedes that the reluctance of the Adelaide players to formally complain about the controversial three-day “mind camp” run by Collective Mind is thwarting the AFL understanding just what did happen on the Gold Coast in late January"
“I have asked questions of my integrity team,” McLachlan said. “They have had a look at it. They do not have any information for me at the moment that creates specific concern.”

So when did it start?

 

[Mike Smyth]

It's too late for apologies now the only thing which will put an end to this mess if those responsible, including the CEO, resign from the club.

 

[ftmch]

Phew

Haha! I read it the same as you!

For one horrible minute I thought metric was referencing Jnr

 

[MRB37]

Hamstring management?

 

[FR0GGY]

Hamstring management?

Rest management or rest awareness that lead to hamstring awareness