2nds Crows in SANFL season 2018

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GrommoT said:
So besides Smithy's 2 points in his comeback game, what other votes did our players get?


Ed. Oh wait, just saw replay showing Wilson with 11 and CEY with 6.
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That's more than I was expecting, given that the team only won 1 game for the entire season and were regularly belted from pillar to post. Hardly surprising that most of the votes went to the winning teams.
 

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Bicks said:
On that, how many former AFL listed players did Norwood have this year?
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Basically most of the side.
In the last round we had
McKenzie - North Melbourne
Johnston - Crows
Grigg -Crows
Bode - melbourne
Hamilton - Bulldogs
Shenton - St Kilda
Georgiou - Melbourne
Wilkins - North Melbourne
Phillips - Port
Fuller - Bulldogs
Surman - hawthorn

So 12 layers from last match. Most though have been Norwood players first and returned
 
crows dude said:
Basically most of the side.
In the last round we had
McKenzie - North Melbourne
Johnston - Crows
Grigg -Crows
Bode - melbourne
Hamilton - Bulldogs
Shenton - St Kilda
Georgiou - Melbourne
Wilkins - North Melbourne
Phillips - Port
Fuller - Bulldogs
Surman - hawthorn

So 12 layers from last match. Most though have been Norwood players first and returned
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Panos - Bulldogs (another who was originally Norwood before being drafted to the AFL)
 

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crows dude said:
Almost half of them were Norwood players and only on Rookie lists so play for unders. Some of the others were rookies as well.
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So what. Totally irrelevant. There’s a State League market for these players, the SANFL clubs compete for these players with VFL clubs and vice versa.
From my understanding Sturt had a choice of fitting Colquhoun (ex Centrals player) into our cap or McKenzie (ex Sturt player). Sturt went with Colquhoun. Yet Norwood can fit in 15 ex AFL players. Questions really need to be asked. There’s 7 other SANFL clubs competing for these ex AFL/proven SANFL players, they are at a premium, yet despite other SANFL clubs offering good money, Norwood fit all of them into their cap while others struggle to fit or attract 1-2 new ex AFL players each year.
So the suggestion is, despite the slim chance these players will get another AFL opportunity and the lure of good money and less training demands in the country leagues, Norwood can fit them all in.
None of it adds up. Throw into this mix that Norwood have cheated the cap numerous times previously any rational thought would assume something stinks out at The Parade.
 
chazwazza said:
So what. Totally irrelevant. There’s a State League market for these players, the SANFL clubs compete for these players with VFL clubs and vice versa.
From my understanding Sturt had a choice of fitting Colquhoun (ex Centrals player) into our cap or McKenzie (ex Sturt player). Sturt went with Colquhoun. Yet Norwood can fit in 15 ex AFL players. Questions really need to be asked. There’s 7 other SANFL clubs competing for these ex AFL/proven SANFL players, they are at a premium, yet despite other SANFL clubs offering good money, Norwood fit all of them into their cap while others struggle to fit or attract 1-2 new ex AFL players each year.
So the suggestion is, despite the slim chance these players will get another AFL opportunity and the lure of good money and less training demands in the country leagues, Norwood can fit them all in.
None of it adds up. Throw into this mix that Norwood have cheated the cap numerous times previously any rational thought would assume something stinks out at The Parade.
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Of course they'd want to play for the best club in the land. I often wonder why you find it so hard to accept this.
 
chazwazza said:
So what. Totally irrelevant. There’s a State League market for these players, the SANFL clubs compete for these players with VFL clubs and vice versa.
From my understanding Sturt had a choice of fitting Colquhoun (ex Centrals player) into our cap or McKenzie (ex Sturt player). Sturt went with Colquhoun. Yet Norwood can fit in 15 ex AFL players. Questions really need to be asked. There’s 7 other SANFL clubs competing for these ex AFL/proven SANFL players, they are at a premium, yet despite other SANFL clubs offering good money, Norwood fit all of them into their cap while others struggle to fit or attract 1-2 new ex AFL players each year.
So the suggestion is, despite the slim chance these players will get another AFL opportunity and the lure of good money and less training demands in the country leagues, Norwood can fit them all in.
None of it adds up. Throw into this mix that Norwood have cheated the cap numerous times previously any rational thought would assume something stinks out at The Parade.
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Wonder how many "sponsored" by McMahon Services off the books? Sshhhhhh
 
New 2019 Rules for the Crows & PAFC ...so how do the Crows stay within a salary cap?

The SA Football Commission concluded the annual review of the licence conditions and list regulations pertaining to the Adelaide and Port Adelaide Football Club participation in the SANFL competition and has approved the following as players eligible for the AFL clubs supplementary lists:

  • Any South Australian player who is attaining the age of 19 or older and who is not on the Senior List of a SANFL Club (which is a list of 40 players).
  • One Leadership Player who has attained the age of twenty six (26) years prior to or during the calendar year in which he is first included on the supplementary list who has been on any AFL list in the season immediately prior.
  • A maximum of four players from interstate that have attained the age of 18 on January 1st in the year in which they are first included on the AFL club supplementary list (turning 19) but who have not attained the age of 21 on January 1st , each of which can be listed for a maximum of two seasons.
  • AFL approved Next Generation Academy (NGA) and Father Son players can be temporarily permitted during their 18th and 19th years (the years in which they are eligible for drafting with concessions) if nominated by the AFL club they are aligned to. It should be noted that this is subject to the player electing and agreeing to being nominated by AFC and PAFC for temporary permit.
    • In the 18th year, such a player can be permitted for a period of four games, but will not be eligible for a permit if they have already played League Football at their SANFL club. The SANFL Club will receive a fee in the sum of $2,500.
    • In the 19th year, a nominated NGA and Father Son player would be available for selection at AFC or PAFC only. At the conclusion of their 19th year SANFL club will have the right to list the player on their senior list. The SANFL Club will receive a fee, in addition to any fee received in the players 18th year, in the sum of $5,000.
Also, a player payment cap will be introduced for the AFC and PAFC in line with the other SANFL clubs, consisting of:

  • Match payments at a maximum of $400 per League match.
  • An upfront/base payment maximum (per individual) of $4,000.
  • Total upfront/base payments (collective) of not more than $20,000.
  • In addition, the Leadership Player can only be paid a maximum upfront/ base payment of $20,000 and match payments of $500 per match. If the player was drafted from a SANFL Club prior to his AFL listing, there will also be a transfer fee payable to the SANFL Club in the sum of $25,000, as is the case if the player were to play for any other SANFL Club.
The AFC and PAFC contracted supplementary list will include:

  • A maximum Contracted Supplementary List of 10 players (including NGA and father son players in their 19th year, such players in their 18th year would be excluded).
  • A contracted supplementary list player is protected and cannot transfer without consent of AFC or PAFC. Only supplementary list players can be paid a base or upfront payment. Contract period is limited to 12 months (or one season).
  • Any player otherwise eligible for the supplementary list can be registered to play on permit from their community club with AFC or PAFC. There is no limit on the number of permitted players.
The changes to the list regulations will provide developmental opportunities at the AFC and PAFC for South Australian Next Generation and Father Son eligible players and other aspirational players who are lacking opportunity at SANFL League level or who are not a part of the SANFL competition. It also allows for listing of interstate players that the AFL clubs have an interest in working with and whom they believe may develop into players who could be listed on their AFL lists.

The changes will ultimately increase the pool of SANFL League quality players and maximise the resource of AFC and PAFC for South Australian talent development.

It has also been agreed by the PAFC and the SA Football Commission that the PAFC will no longer field a team in the SANFL Reserves competition. This results in an eight team Reserves competition for season 2019.
 
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