LCHF- Low Carb / High-Healthy Fat lifestyle.

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Weren't Port Adelaide LCHF a couple of years ago? When they were performing quite well I remember some people stating it was almost directly related to their LCHF approach.
 
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Weren't Port Adelaide LCHF a couple of years ago? When they were performing quite well I remember some people stating it was almost directly related to their LCHF approach.
They were similar to Melbourne, a handful of players done a preseason low carb, but reverted back to a carb based diet once the season started.
 
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Am reading a book from 1984 called Unleashing The Wild Physique by Vince Gironda. Vince was a crazy scientist type guy who is best known for training Apollo Creed, and kicking people out of the gym for doing sit ups.

Fats and Cholesterol.

Personally, I prefer to use fats as energy sources over carbohydrates since they sustain the body's blood-sugar level for up to six hours and as fuel sources burn slowly. In fact, due to the difficulty the body has in breaking fats down into energy, it actually burns body fat in the process.

But the body will only use fats as fuel in the absence of any carbohydrates. Now to the cholesterol controversy again. Many people get upset when I tell them to eat three dozen raw eggs mixed with cream. "What about cholesterol?" they scream. In fact, hospital experiments with burn victims who were fed three dozen eggs per day showed those people to have a lower cholesterol count than when they were put on a low-fat diet.

I personally have yet to find a single bodybuilder in normal good health who eats large quantities of eggs and has an elevated cholesterol count because of it.

When dieting to lose weight, it is important to include one carbohydrate meal every 72-96 hours (no protein) to restore carbohydrates to the system and glycogen to the muscle. This promotes recovery and a better pump from your workouts. If you eat carbohvdrates after 3-4 days on a highprotein/high-fat diet, it causes a diuretic action, releasing water from the tissues. People often report a lower bodyweight of several pounds when using this method.

Also mentions sugar is far worse for you than fats.

Most people in 1984 would have s**t a brick if you ran that lot past them.
 
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Haven't gone back through and read anything previous in this thread. Just noticed the headline and thought i'd chuck the old 2 cents in.
I did my own version of this diet about 3 years and had honestly never felt better. Even with the low-carb nature of it I was getting through games of football and training better than ever. Just felt so much lighter and could cover ground a lot quicker.
Unfortunately due to a bad breakup by mental health wasn't wonderful at the same time. So after meeting my soon to be wife not long after, I jumped straight back into 'regular' foods I use to eat too much of before (breads, pastas etc etc).
Now are getting married soon, my fiancee went through that usual bride-to-be phase where she wanted to be in the best shape of her life. I had been considering going back on the old diet due to being 29 next season and thinking I needed to change something to protect the longevity of my footy career. She was happy to join in with me on the low-carb/sugar diet.
Been about 6 weeks now and I have noticed a real change in my endurance and energy throughout the day at work and at the gym. 6 days of a gym a week has been piss easy. Mrs is way happier too. Best she has ever looked and thankfully doesn't give in to sugar cravings anymore like she used to.

Basically using the 'less than 70g' of carbs in a day rule. Don't measure it strictly, but have a decent idea of about where I sit by the end of a day.
A usual day consists of:
Scrambled eggs with spring onion, bacon, tomato, halloumi cooked in coconut oil topped with some avocado. A coffee with a bit of raw honey and a splash of milk.
3 rice cakes with natural peanut butter in the mid-morning.
Chicken breast pieces and veggies with brown rice.
A handful of almonds or some Paleo granola.
WPI Protein shake post gym with a small serving of leftover chicken breast and veggies.
Steak with sweet potato. Green beans and broccolini fried with cashews.
Dessert is a little block of 85% cocoa dark chocolate.

Definitely isn't the cleanest diet going around. Also not going to be winning bodybuilding awards with it either. Not going to argue with it's result though. Look and feel considerably better. Breakfast before used to be an english muffin with avocado. Lunch could be a heat up meal or leftover pasta bake or satay chicken with white rice. Dinner would be similar to lunch but with soft drink as a side and ice cream after. The amount of exercise I do would counteract it a little, but by comparison the current diet is a 100% improvement in most areas.
 

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I've been running a highly scientific* LCHF experiment on my cat... cue evil laugh

First I fed her nothing but dry food for a month or so, the prime ingredient being some sort of cereal grain. She loved it and was constantly pining at her bowl for more even though I was feeding her twice a day. And even though I wasn't feeding her as much as she wanted she started to noticeably put on weight, to the point where people who hadn't seen her for a couple of weeks were commenting on it when they came around.

Then about a month ago I switched to nothing but wet food with various meats listed as the primary ingredient, and straight away the subject exhibited significantly greater satiety and control over her appetite. The weight dropped off within a week or two and she never whinges by her plate for more food between meals any more. Now I give her food whenever she asks for it yet she's staying very lean. Occasionally she even goes 24 hours or so between meals without asking for more, compared to constant cravings when I was feeding her dry stuff.

On the dry food she would wake me up at the crack of dawn every morning wanting to be fed, she doesn't do that anymore either. Thank ****!

I'm applying for a university grant to torture more animals as we speak.


*not scientific at all

*Update*

So a couple of months ago I went over east for 9 days for work and bought a heap of dry cat food to leave for my cat, who usually only eats canned food (as above). Problem is, due to the fear of accidentally starving her to death before friends could check up on her, I vastly overestimated how much she would eat in a week and apparently bought enough to last more than a month. But being the intrepid scientist I am this presented an opportunity for further LCHF research.

Aim: To investigate the effect of a high carb vs low carb diet on a young female feline.

Background:
Research has found that cats have a desirable macronutrient intake of approximately 52% protein, 36% fat and 12% carbs (Hewson-Hughes et al. 2011). This target is only attainable by cats offered wet foods, since the macronutrient composition of dry food contains a minimum of 26% carbohydrate (Hewson-Hughes et al. 2012).

Method: The subject was fed nothing but cereal-based dry biscuits for 37 days, followed by nothing but meat-based wet food for another 37 days. There was no limit placed on feeding quantity or frequency in either condition, other than the subject's own preference. The subject was weighed at the end of each period to track bodyweight changes. The researchers attempted to take before and after photos but found the subject uncooperative.

Results: At the end of the high carb period the subject's weight was 5.2kg. After the conclusion of the low carb period the subject's weight had dropped to 4.7kg - a reduction of 9.6% body mass in 37 days (P<.001).

Discussion: During the high carb period the subject exhibited a desire for constant snacking compared to the prolonged periods between eating observed in the low carb period. This is consistent with what is known about the effect of high carb foods on insulin response compared to foods higher in fat and protein. The findings of this study support the theory that high carb diets may result in weight gain due to rapid fluctuations in the blood sugar/insulin cycle and that a low carb diet may be an effective weight loss tool due to greater satiety.



*P-value may be made up
 
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Hey all - about three months ago I jumped into this thread to say I was jumping on the LCHF as a trial to see what happened.

My goal was to get through 12 weeks with actually adhering to the plan to see if it actually had an effect. Too many times I'd gone really strict for a few weeks, congratulated myself, then gone off.

So here's what I planned to do (and actually did):
  • 1 cheat day per week - can eat anything.
  • 2 squares of dark lindt chocolate for dinner every night.
  • Reduce/eliminate carbs as much as possible. (except cheat day). By that I mean rice, bread, pasta, noodles and white potatoes.
  • Fruit is always fine
  • Max out protein and veg wherever possible.
  • Dairy always fine
  • Alcohol free July and October
  • Go to the gym/exercise at least 3 times a week. (have actually gone 53 times in 12 weeks)
  • Gym/exercise to be a mix of strength weights, HIIT and traditional cardio

Here's what I noticed:
  • My weight has gone up 1.5kg
  • I've leaned out a lot. People commenting regularly. My wife said to me at one point "that's a proper body TRANSFORMATION!"
  • Cheat days really aren't that appealing anymore. There's normally something I'm craving (a packet of salt and vinegar chips, or some of those lindt balls). But no longer want the burger + chips + soft drink + a couple of beers after
  • I don't like most of the fat-heavy keto meals out there. Much prefer meat + veggies or salad
  • Restaurant food tastes really different
  • Energy levels have fluctuated a lot. I don't count calories and often miscalculate fuel/activity ratios.
  • I introduced protein powder as a daily thing about 5 weeks in and felt instantly better
  • The changes I've felt are really starting to bake in now. Really starting to feel like a lifestyle change rather than a 'challenge'.
  • I've gone from being fuelled by stress/adrenaline to be a lot more steady and even. Hard to get used to. Coffee consumption has increased a LOT as I try to manage energy peaks and troughs - but I would say the baseline is much higher than it used to be.
  • Sleep quality is much higher - but am trying to increase number of hours sleep to assist in recovery.

Lots to report on the mental side of it if anyone is interested. Especially the weird dynamics with a wife who is also trying to get fitter and healthier and disagrees with most of my approaches. Just let me know if you're interested and I'll share a bit.
 
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Hey all - about three months ago I jumped into this thread to say I was jumping on the LCHF as a trial to see what happened.

My goal was to get through 12 weeks with actually adhering to the plan to see if it actually had an effect. Too many times I'd gone really strict for a few weeks, congratulated myself, then gone off.

So here's what I planned to do (and actually did):
  • 1 cheat day per week - can eat anything.
  • 2 squares of dark lindt chocolate for dinner every night.
  • Reduce/eliminate carbs as much as possible. (except cheat day). By that I mean rice, bread, pasta, noodles and white potatoes.
  • Fruit is always fine
  • Max out protein and veg wherever possible.
  • Dairy always fine
  • Alcohol free July and October
  • Go to the gym/exercise at least 3 times a week. (have actually gone 53 times in 12 weeks)
  • Gym/exercise to be a mix of strength weights, HIIT and traditional cardio

Here's what I noticed:
  • My weight has gone up 1.5kg
  • I've leaned out a lot. People commenting regularly. My wife said to me at one point "that's a proper body TRANSFORMATION!"
  • Cheat days really aren't that appealing anymore. There's normally something I'm craving (a packet of salt and vinegar chips, or some of those lindt balls). But no longer want the burger + chips + soft drink + a couple of beers after
  • I don't like most of the fat-heavy keto meals out there. Much prefer meat + veggies or salad
  • Restaurant food tastes really different
  • Energy levels have fluctuated a lot. I don't count calories and often miscalculate fuel/activity ratios.
  • I introduced protein powder as a daily thing about 5 weeks in and felt instantly better
  • The changes I've felt are really starting to bake in now. Really starting to feel like a lifestyle change rather than a 'challenge'.
  • I've gone from being fuelled by stress/adrenaline to be a lot more steady and even. Hard to get used to. Coffee consumption has increased a LOT as I try to manage energy peaks and troughs - but I would say the baseline is much higher than it used to be.
  • Sleep quality is much higher - but am trying to increase number of hours sleep to assist in recovery.

Lots to report on the mental side of it if anyone is interested. Especially the weird dynamics with a wife who is also trying to get fitter and healthier and disagrees with most of my approaches. Just let me know if you're interested and I'll share a bit.
Well done, that's a fantastic effort.
 
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Hey all - about three months ago I jumped into this thread to say I was jumping on the LCHF as a trial to see what happened.

My goal was to get through 12 weeks with actually adhering to the plan to see if it actually had an effect. Too many times I'd gone really strict for a few weeks, congratulated myself, then gone off.

So here's what I planned to do (and actually did):
  • 1 cheat day per week - can eat anything.
  • 2 squares of dark lindt chocolate for dinner every night.
  • Reduce/eliminate carbs as much as possible. (except cheat day). By that I mean rice, bread, pasta, noodles and white potatoes.
  • Fruit is always fine
  • Max out protein and veg wherever possible.
  • Dairy always fine
  • Alcohol free July and October
  • Go to the gym/exercise at least 3 times a week. (have actually gone 53 times in 12 weeks)
  • Gym/exercise to be a mix of strength weights, HIIT and traditional cardio

Here's what I noticed:
  • My weight has gone up 1.5kg
  • I've leaned out a lot. People commenting regularly. My wife said to me at one point "that's a proper body TRANSFORMATION!"
  • Cheat days really aren't that appealing anymore. There's normally something I'm craving (a packet of salt and vinegar chips, or some of those lindt balls). But no longer want the burger + chips + soft drink + a couple of beers after
  • I don't like most of the fat-heavy keto meals out there. Much prefer meat + veggies or salad
  • Restaurant food tastes really different
  • Energy levels have fluctuated a lot. I don't count calories and often miscalculate fuel/activity ratios.
  • I introduced protein powder as a daily thing about 5 weeks in and felt instantly better
  • The changes I've felt are really starting to bake in now. Really starting to feel like a lifestyle change rather than a 'challenge'.
  • I've gone from being fuelled by stress/adrenaline to be a lot more steady and even. Hard to get used to. Coffee consumption has increased a LOT as I try to manage energy peaks and troughs - but I would say the baseline is much higher than it used to be.
  • Sleep quality is much higher - but am trying to increase number of hours sleep to assist in recovery.

Lots to report on the mental side of it if anyone is interested. Especially the weird dynamics with a wife who is also trying to get fitter and healthier and disagrees with most of my approaches. Just let me know if you're interested and I'll share a bit.

Your weight going up 1.5kgs, is that a positive or a negative for you? (Or neutral perhaps).
 

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100% spot on. Calorie counting is pointless on a low carb diet. The optimising nutrition link I posted is far more important. The nutrient density and quality of food is far more important.

Let just preface this by saying not trying to change your point of view or argue who is right and who is wrong just a counter opinion to yours.

Depending on the individuals goals counting calories or having a knowledge of your calorie intake is important particularly for weight loss.

You can still overeat good foods, mind you it is harder than loading up on junk food. And removing/severely limiting a food group can help control overall calories.

I’ve always liked the analogy of eating non processed “clean” foods is like giving your body premium unleaded eating junk food is like e10 and a mix is like regular unleaded.

But I’ve always said diet and training is totally individual thing. You guys not eating doesn’t affect my life and vice versa. If you enjoy it and it helps achieve your goals then why change
 
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