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Hey Jivlain. I am very interested to see what your numbers say for round 1 next year. Any chance of you doing your best Lions 22 round 1 numbers v west coast best 22 now so we can see what the offseason changes and a year older has done to our profile?
 
Hey Jivlain. I am very interested to see what your numbers say for round 1 next year. Any chance of you doing your best Lions 22 round 1 numbers v west coast best 22 now so we can see what the offseason changes and a year older has done to our profile?

That's just mean ;)
 
Hey Jivlain. I am very interested to see what your numbers say for round 1 next year. Any chance of you doing your best Lions 22 round 1 numbers v west coast best 22 now so we can see what the offseason changes and a year older has done to our profile?
I will have a think about it. Have to actually select a best 22 as well :laughing:

That's just mean ;)
We have the technology (even the ability to selectively up-age teams). We can build a premiership-winning list.
 

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I will have a think about it. Have to actually select a best 22 as well :laughing:


We have the technology (even the ability to selectively up-age teams). We can build a premiership-winning list.
Thanks Jiv. I don't want to influence your best 22 but if I was you I would consider including Zorko.
 
Hey Jivlain. I am very interested to see what your numbers say for round 1 next year. Any chance of you doing your best Lions 22 round 1 numbers v west coast best 22 now so we can see what the offseason changes and a year older has done to our profile?
My selected best 22 as they will be at round 1 2019, vs West Coast's premiership team immediately after winning the GF:
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  • (0 to 10 games - Brisbane 0 vs. West Coast 0)
  • 0 to 24 games - Brisbane 2 vs. West Coast 3
  • 25 to 49 games - Brisbane 4 vs. West Coast 1
  • 50 to 99 games - Brisbane 8 vs. West Coast 6
  • 100 to 199 games - Brisbane 7 vs. West Coast 9
  • 200+ games - Brisbane 1 vs. West Coast 3
Extra stats:
  • Average games played - Brisbane 95.8 vs. West Coast 120.8 (= -25 games on average)
  • Average age - Brisbane 25.3 vs. West Coast 26.3 (= -1 years on average)
  • Average height - Brisbane 188.4cm vs. West Coast 187.8cm (= +0.6cm on average)
  • Average weight - Brisbane 89kg vs. West Coast 88.2kg (= +0.8kg on average)
 
My selected best 22 as they will be at round 1 2019, vs West Coast's premiership team immediately after winning the GF:
View attachment 586738

  • (0 to 10 games - Brisbane 0 vs. West Coast 0)
  • 0 to 24 games - Brisbane 2 vs. West Coast 3
  • 25 to 49 games - Brisbane 4 vs. West Coast 1
  • 50 to 99 games - Brisbane 8 vs. West Coast 6
  • 100 to 199 games - Brisbane 7 vs. West Coast 9
  • 200+ games - Brisbane 1 vs. West Coast 3
Extra stats:
  • Average games played - Brisbane 95.8 vs. West Coast 120.8 (= -25 games on average)
  • Average age - Brisbane 25.3 vs. West Coast 26.3 (= -1 years on average)
  • Average height - Brisbane 188.4cm vs. West Coast 187.8cm (= +0.6cm on average)
  • Average weight - Brisbane 89kg vs. West Coast 88.2kg (= +0.8kg on average)

Appreciate your work mate. I know it's a bit of a stretch but would you be able to just post the age and games if Hodge wasn't in the team. Curious to see the drop off it makes. But if it's a pain don't sweat it
 

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My selected best 22 as they will be at round 1 2019, vs West Coast's premiership team immediately after winning the GF:
View attachment 586738

  • (0 to 10 games - Brisbane 0 vs. West Coast 0)
  • 0 to 24 games - Brisbane 2 vs. West Coast 3
  • 25 to 49 games - Brisbane 4 vs. West Coast 1
  • 50 to 99 games - Brisbane 8 vs. West Coast 6
  • 100 to 199 games - Brisbane 7 vs. West Coast 9
  • 200+ games - Brisbane 1 vs. West Coast 3
Extra stats:
  • Average games played - Brisbane 95.8 vs. West Coast 120.8 (= -25 games on average)
  • Average age - Brisbane 25.3 vs. West Coast 26.3 (= -1 years on average)
  • Average height - Brisbane 188.4cm vs. West Coast 187.8cm (= +0.6cm on average)
  • Average weight - Brisbane 89kg vs. West Coast 88.2kg (= +0.8kg on average)
Awesome! Thanks very much. I was hoping we would be near that magic 100 game average and over the 25 year average. Still at a disadvantage to WC but they are the premiers!
The reality is 2020 really will be the finals push year even after we deduct the hodge factor from our stats.
 

John_Proctor

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Appreciate your work mate. I know it's a bit of a stretch but would you be able to just post the age and games if Hodge wasn't in the team. Curious to see the drop off it makes. But if it's a pain don't sweat it

replace Hodge with Cox (or any other low experience replacement) and you drop the average games per player by about 14 (324 gamer down to 20 gamer = 300/22) and you drop the average age by about 0.6 (435-21yo = 14 years / 22 players)

so difference becomes 40 games and 1.5 years.

the analysis definitely makes us look ready to make another decent jump this year though.
 

Keays2myBeamas

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Awesome! Thanks very much. I was hoping we would be near that magic 100 game average and over the 25 year average. Still at a disadvantage to WC but they are the premiers!
The reality is 2020 really will be the finals push year even after we deduct the hodge factor from our stats.

Based on the general consensus, there are 25 players that are possible selections for round 1, with an average games played of 92.16 and an average age of 25.2. Depending on selections (especially Lester/Bastinac/Taylor), it's quite possible we hit 98 and 25 for round 1.
 

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The stats are remarkably close, with the difference being that the Eagles have a few more real babies (under 25 games), whereas the Lions have more youngsters (25-49 games). None of these really tell us much about what will happen.


R1 Lions vs Eagles at Gabba, 23 March, 2019
(0 to 10 games - Lions 0 vs. Eagles 3)
0 to 24 games - Lions 3 vs. Eagles 6
25 to 49 games - Lions 5 vs. Eagles 1

50 to 99 games - Lions 7 vs. Eagles 6
100 to 199 games - Lions 6 vs. Eagles 8
200+ games - Lions 1 vs. Eagles 1
Extra stats:
Average games played - Lions 92.5 vs. Eagles 93.3 (= -0.8 games on average)
Average age - Lions 25.1 vs. Eagles 25.2 (= -0.1 years on average)
Average height - Lions 188.6cm vs. Eagles 188.5cm (= +0.1cm on average)
Average weight - Lions 88.5kg vs. Eagles 87.5kg (= +0.9kg on average)
 
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The stats are remarkably close, with the difference being that the Eagles have a few more real babies (under 25 games), whereas the Lions have more youngsters (25-49 games). None of these really tell us much about what will happen.

R1 Lions vs Eagles at Gabba, 23 March, 2019
(0 to 10 games - Lions 0 vs. Eagles 3)
0 to 24 games - Lions 3 vs. Eagles 6
25 to 49 games - Lions 5 vs. Eagles 1
50 to 99 games - Lions 7 vs. Eagles 6
100 to 199 games - Lions 6 vs. Eagles 8
200+ games - Lions 1 vs. Eagles 1
Extra stats:
Average games played - Lions 92.5 vs. Eagles 93.3 (= -0.8 games on average)
Average age - Lions 25.1 vs. Eagles 25.2 (= -0.1 years on average)
Average height - Lions 188.6cm vs. Eagles 188.5cm (= +0.1cm on average)
Average weight - Lions 88.5kg vs. Eagles 87.5kg (= +0.9kg on average)
The 3 mature age ins certainly help in this regard.
Now to on field performance!
 

Milux

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The stats are remarkably close, with the difference being that the Eagles have a few more real babies (under 25 games), whereas the Lions have more youngsters (25-49 games). None of these really tell us much about what will happen.


R1 Lions vs Eagles at Gabba, 23 March, 2019
(0 to 10 games - Lions 0 vs. Eagles 3)
0 to 24 games - Lions 3 vs. Eagles 6
25 to 49 games - Lions 5 vs. Eagles 1
50 to 99 games - Lions 7 vs. Eagles 6
100 to 199 games - Lions 6 vs. Eagles 8
200+ games - Lions 1 vs. Eagles 1
Extra stats:
Average games played - Lions 92.5 vs. Eagles 93.3 (= -0.8 games on average)
Average age - Lions 25.1 vs. Eagles 25.2 (= -0.1 years on average)
Average height - Lions 188.6cm vs. Eagles 188.5cm (= +0.1cm on average)
Average weight - Lions 88.5kg vs. Eagles 87.5kg (= +0.9kg on average)
Thanks. Was looking forward to this.

I hate to point out that the weight difference should be +1kg not .9kg
 
Gut feel is that we are in with a chance, stats back that up. Going to be very interesting game. Hopefully we turn up from the first bounce and can maybe get the jump on them.
 
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The stats are remarkably close, with the difference being that the Eagles have a few more real babies (under 25 games), whereas the Lions have more youngsters (25-49 games). None of these really tell us much about what will happen.


R1 Lions vs Eagles at Gabba, 23 March, 2019
(0 to 10 games - Lions 0 vs. Eagles 3)
0 to 24 games - Lions 3 vs. Eagles 6
25 to 49 games - Lions 5 vs. Eagles 1
50 to 99 games - Lions 7 vs. Eagles 6
100 to 199 games - Lions 6 vs. Eagles 8
200+ games - Lions 1 vs. Eagles 1
Extra stats:
Average games played - Lions 92.5 vs. Eagles 93.3 (= -0.8 games on average)
Average age - Lions 25.1 vs. Eagles 25.2 (= -0.1 years on average)
Average height - Lions 188.6cm vs. Eagles 188.5cm (= +0.1cm on average)
Average weight - Lions 88.5kg vs. Eagles 87.5kg (= +0.9kg on average)

Interesting comparison with rd 23 last year - massive equalisation of average games played (mainly due to the eagles outs of course), very similar ages now too.

  • (0 to 10 games - Brisbane 1 vs. West Coast 2)
  • 0 to 24 games - Brisbane 4 vs. West Coast 5
  • 25 to 49 games - Brisbane 3 vs. West Coast 1
  • 50 to 99 games - Brisbane 6 vs. West Coast 6
  • 100 to 199 games - Brisbane 8 vs. West Coast 8
  • 200+ games - Brisbane 1 vs. West Coast 2
Extra stats:
  • Average games played - Brisbane 93 vs. West Coast 106.2 (= -13.2 games on average)
  • Average age - Brisbane 24.6 vs. West Coast 25.6 (= -1 years on average)
  • Average height - Brisbane 189.2cm vs. West Coast 187.8cm (= +1.4cm on average)
  • Average weight - Brisbane 89.7kg vs. West Coast 87.6kg (= +2.1kg on average)
 
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