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St Kilda will play finals in 2019. You heard it here first.
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Source?St Kilda will play finals in 2019. You heard it here first.
Largely because your base over that period - the 2010 premiership side, assembled by Malthouse - was much, much higher than ours was, in 2015. We had Cripps, Docherty, and the best hits of the previous regime. Now, we have more or less completely interchanged the rest of the list.Statistically, yes we did.
However, at the rate we were going backwards, it would have taken us another 25 years to fall to the depths that was the 2018 Carlton Football Club.
Source?
I guess I'm fortunate that I support a team that always measures itself on wins and losses, with football being an industry where that is the defining measure of success.
... because, again, by this logic Bucks wasted his time disassembling a list that had just won a flag, the first in nearly 30 years, when at the time it was the youngest team to win a flag.Using the logic that Carlton didn't go backwards this year despite a 2 win, 59% season because they were able to get plenty of games into their talented youth in order to fast-track their development, can we now conclude that the Judd trade didn't take Carlton forward because all that did was enable them to stagnate between 6th and 12th for a few seasons without ever challenging for a premiership?
I don't think you understand, we are here to test your knowledge of the Carlton football club and so far questions about the players and the coaches names have left you dumbfounded looking for google to give you answers.And you got all that from the post, you mate are an absolute genius.
But i'll give you some advice, google Carlton coach, player stats, that will tell you who your coach and players are.
It will also show you how bad all those players are that you need others to tell you who they are.
This Lizard character by his own admission looks only at the win/loss record and doesn't watch Carlton games.I don't think you understand, we are here to test your knowledge of the Carlton football club and so far questions about the players and the coaches names have left you dumbfounded looking for google to give you answers.
How can you expect anyone to believe your opinion on something you have proven to have zero knowledge of?
This sentence is the perfect summation of the contribution of Carlton supporters to this thread.
Usually when someone gets upset with the facts, they come back with posts like this.
Keep hoping mate, that's all you have at the moment.
How many times do you need to be told, hope is not a fact, go look up fact.Oh right. Only facts can come from you! Got it!
I put one forward and I get blasted for it.
We've acknowledged the win/loss ratio argument. You're just not bothering to see past it with your half-glass empty attitude.
How many times do you need to be told, hope is not a fact, go look up fact.
Going form 6 wins to 2 with less %, is going backwards, FACT
I love it when snowflakes don't directly quote you and complain about others from their safe space.Usually when someone gets upset with the facts, they come back with posts like this.
Keep hoping mate, that's all you have at the moment.
Of course there will be better days genius.
But that still doesn't change the FACT, you went backward.
How *****N thick are you?
And you are just a coward mate, you won't even acknowledge you *****D up, you said i was wrong, when in fact, i stated a fact.
Feel like Freo could surprise. Still have Fyfe, Hill and Hogan to carry the team. Have Cerra and Brayshaw as young guns. Have good players in the backline:Lol, yeah right, before you jumped in i was saying that the CFC had a long way to go yet before reaching the finals, they went backwards this year and need to start moving forward before thinking finals, no-one can say yet how good these young players are, they might stay down the bottom for a couple more years yet.
And before you jump back in with but, but, but, yes they may also take off at a rate of knots, but at the moment, they haven't showed they are going to.
Now all you have given us is "we have potential" well mate that's called hope, and good for you that you have hope.
Losing Neale will have an impact in the centre and on the scoreboard lately as he’s bedn contributing regularly there. BUT adding Hogan could do wonders for their forward line with McCarthy. It might take some time for them to gel. They could be in for a year similar to Carlton 2018 as some of their young mids should get more time on ball although they get the huge homeground advantage for a few more wins than just 2.Feel like Freo could surprise. Still have Fyfe, Hill and Hogan to carry the team. Have Cerra and Brayshaw as young guns. Have good players in the backline:
You'd think they'd be a bit humble considering they have two A-graders and a bunch of kids with potential.I also think their theme song is quite good, but that is all they have going for them.
Saints for me are hard to pin. They could be awful and Richo gets the boot half way in. They could revert and beat some top teams and push for finals.
They could be somewhere in between. No faith in Richo. But at least lots of change around him. Most significantly Allen, Lethlean and Ratten are big improvements on what went before.
I'll take a stab and say 12th. 10 wins. 12 losses. McCartin traded at year's end.
To answer the thread title, NFI.
Agree that Ratten should get another go around. Many blues fans weren't happy how he was treated.St.Kilda are a hard team to evaluate because last year they performed far below expectations and now its a bit unclear whether the rebuild has failed, whether it was a temporary setback, a victim of bad coaching or somewhere between. The list itself is far more mature than Gold Coast and Carlton. If all their players were playing great footy they would be playing finals in 2019, based on demographics.
I am not inspired by Richo. I watched a lot of AFL 360 throughout the year and frankly I thought Chris Scott was far more eloquent and insightful than him on a regular basis. Richo made his career based on developing young players but I'm not sure he's the full package in terms of being a great motivator or tactician. I do like Ratten as an assistant and I wouldn't be shocked if one day got another gig as a head coach.
One thing I will say about St.Kilda is that their playstyle has no identity. Listening to Richo he continually talked about a gamestyle built around pressure but he regularly conceded that what he was calling for and what was occurring on the field was two different things. I believe there are a number of different styles that are in vogue at the moment and although they are oversimplifications at least you can describe the style somewhat:
High pressure: Richmond, Collingwood
Half back intercept: West Coast
Kick to kick: Hawthorn
Handball happy: Bulldogs, Richmond
Moves the ball fast in attack: Essendon, Adelaide
etc etc
A true test for St.Kilda in 2019 will be playing consistent footy and establishing a real identity on the field, whatever that may be.
Saints rank 12 for average age (Hawthorn oldest at one) and 14 for average games played/experience.St.Kilda are a hard team to evaluate because last year they performed far below expectations and now its a bit unclear whether the rebuild has failed, whether it was a temporary setback, a victim of bad coaching or somewhere between. The list itself is far more mature than Gold Coast and Carlton. If all their players were playing great footy they would be playing finals in 2019, based on demographics.
St.Kilda are a hard team to evaluate because last year they performed far below expectations and now its a bit unclear whether the rebuild has failed, whether it was a temporary setback, a victim of bad coaching or somewhere between. The list itself is far more mature than Gold Coast and Carlton. If all their players were playing great footy they would be playing finals in 2019, based on demographics.
I am not inspired by Richo. I watched a lot of AFL 360 throughout the year and frankly I thought Chris Scott was far more eloquent and insightful than him on a regular basis. Richo made his career based on developing young players but I'm not sure he's the full package in terms of being a great motivator or tactician. I do like Ratten as an assistant and I wouldn't be shocked if one day got another gig as a head coach.
One thing I will say about St.Kilda is that their playstyle has no identity. Listening to Richo he continually talked about a gamestyle built around pressure but he regularly conceded that what he was calling for and what was occurring on the field was two different things. I believe there are a number of different styles that are in vogue at the moment and although they are oversimplifications at least you can describe the style somewhat:
High pressure: Richmond, Collingwood
Half back intercept: West Coast
Kick to kick: Hawthorn
Handball happy: Bulldogs, Richmond
Moves the ball fast in attack: Essendon, Adelaide
etc etc
A true test for St.Kilda in 2019 will be playing consistent footy and establishing a real identity on the field, whatever that may be.
To me WC have been a very strong intercept marking and turnover team for years. What was new last year is the posession oriented game similar to the Hawks.St.Kilda are a hard team to evaluate because last year they performed far below expectations and now its a bit unclear whether the rebuild has failed, whether it was a temporary setback, a victim of bad coaching or somewhere between. The list itself is far more mature than Gold Coast and Carlton. If all their players were playing great footy they would be playing finals in 2019, based on demographics.
I am not inspired by Richo. I watched a lot of AFL 360 throughout the year and frankly I thought Chris Scott was far more eloquent and insightful than him on a regular basis. Richo made his career based on developing young players but I'm not sure he's the full package in terms of being a great motivator or tactician. I do like Ratten as an assistant and I wouldn't be shocked if one day got another gig as a head coach.
One thing I will say about St.Kilda is that their playstyle has no identity. Listening to Richo he continually talked about a gamestyle built around pressure but he regularly conceded that what he was calling for and what was occurring on the field was two different things. I believe there are a number of different styles that are in vogue at the moment and although they are oversimplifications at least you can describe the style somewhat:
High pressure: Richmond, Collingwood
Half back intercept: West Coast
Kick to kick: Hawthorn
Handball happy: Bulldogs, Richmond
Moves the ball fast in attack: Essendon, Adelaide
etc etc
A true test for St.Kilda in 2019 will be playing consistent footy and establishing a real identity on the field, whatever that may be.