2019 team rankings according to Champion Data

[compact72]

Majak is the fourth best defender in the game !!!!

Nek minute he appears in mofras bottom 50

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[Ron The Bear]

Brisbane ranked 1st and 4th worst defence for 2017 and 2018 yet champion data rank them 3rd best for 2019.

I think champion data been having too many of these

Can only think their backline rates highly because the ball is down there a lot.

 

[Coach_Required]

I just found out how CD ranks the clubs and my method is fool proof

 

[RUNVS]

For those that did not see

Top 10 players of the competition
1. Patrick Dangerfield
2. Dustin Martin
3. Lance Franklin
4. Nathan Fyfe
5. Clayton Oliver
6. Jack Riewoldt
7. Tom Hawkins
8. Jeremy McGovern
9. Dayne Zorko
10. Lachie Neale

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/11/29/champion-data-ranks-the-top-10-players-in-the-competition/

Top 5 Key Forwards
1. Lance Franklin
2. Jack Riewoldt
3. Tom Hawkins
4. Jack Gunston
5. Tom McDonald

Top 5 Key Defenders
1. Jeremy McGovern
2. Harris Andrews
3. Alex Rance
4. Majak Daw
5. Jake Lever

Top 5 Rucks
1. Brodie Grundy
2. Max Gawn
3. Nic Naitanui
4. Paddy Ryder
5. Ben McEvoy

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/11/29/champion-datas-top-five-key-forwards-defenders-and-rucks/

 

[Pykie]

You lot are a fly to s**t.

This is a prediction of 2019, not a current rating.

Majak is the fourth best defender in the game !!!!

Did you watch any football at all in 2018?

 

[Art OF war]

Will need to fold the s**t-show that is West Coast.

 

[captain blood 17]

Nek minute he appears in mofras bottom 50

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Mofras top 50 is more accurate than CD.


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[Trav 20]

Will need to fold the s**t-show that is West Coast.

West Coast were 18th for ground-ball stats, 11th for contested possessions, 11th for clearances, and 15th for tackles.

They're just stats, but they explain how the rankings evolve.

 

[Obeanie1]

So this year's Grand Finalists were rated 12th (premiers) and 10th. Top team after the H&A were rated 8th. Three of the top four after H&A were rated outside of the top eight.

Top ranked team knocked out in the first week of the finals (and pantsed in the process), the second and third ranked team didn't even make the finals.

Oh and the current Brownlow Medallist wasn't rated as elite. Neither was the bloke that won the Coleman Medal.

And Jack Watts was rated as above average.

Soon to be renamed Chumpion Data.

But the team at Champion Data are standing by their results.

 

[Obeanie1]

West Coast's midfield in the finals won all of the major stats, but they didn't throughout the year. For example, West Coast ranked 18th for ground-ball gets in 2018. Sheed was in and out of the team during the year, but was fantastic late, just as Redden had a great last 6 weeks.

CD work on a full two season average ending at the Grand Final. But there's a weighting system attached. More recent games have a greater loading than games played nearly two years ago. For example, the 2018 GF has greater weight in their algorithms than round 1, 2017. Even the second half of 2018 has greater weight than the first half of 2018.

They measure the stats of every player on every list as long as that player has played at least 5 games within the last two years. Their algorithms spit out the results of every player within the criteria and they rank the lists accordingly.

There's no "opinion" in these stats. And they don't suggest taking them as any guide to future performance.

Wonder if they even include finals data?

 

[Trav 20]

Wonder if they even include finals data?

They do. All the way to the GF.

 

[windyhill]

Did they have their Christmas party early ? Clearly drunk.

 

[Coaster2012]

WC has to be the worst done by on this s**t. Brisbane ranked higher than WC? How does that have any legitimacy? A team struggling to NOT win the spoon, leap frogs that premiers in 1 year? And Kennedy isn't even ranked as one of the top 5 forwards in the comp.

 

[Coaster2012]

You lot are a fly to s**t.

This is a prediction of 2019, not a current rating.



Did you watch any football at all in 2018?

I did, and I don't think there is 1 person in the country who would take Daw over Lever.

 

[the view]

2018

1. Sydney Swans – Five elite players (Lance Franklin, Dan Hannebery, Tom Papley, Josh Kennedy and Dane Rampe).
Note: The Swans also have a stunning 12 above average players.

2. Port Adelaide – Six elite players – (Robbie Gray, Paddy Ryder, Justin Westhoff, Charlie Dixon, Chad Wingard and Travis Boak).
Note: The Power has 10 above average players, with Jack Watts and Steven Motlop in that category. New recruit Tom Rockliff was rated average last year, largely because of injury.

3. Adelaide – Six elite players (Brodie Smith, Rory Sloane, Rory Laird, Eddie Betts, Tom Lynch and Taylor Walker).
Note: The Crows have five above average players.

4. GWS – Four elite players (Zac Williams, Toby Greene, Jeremy Cameron and Lachie Whitfield).
Note: The Giants have 10 above average players.

5. Melbourne – Four elite players (Jake Lever, Christian Petracca, Jayden Hunt and Tom McDonald).
Note: The Demons have eight above average players including Clayton Oliver, Max Gawn, Jack Viney and Nathan Jones.

6. Geelong – Four elite players (Patrick Dangerfield, Gary Ablett, Sam Menegola and Daniel Menzel).
Note: The Cats have seven above average players.

7. Western Bulldogs – One elite player (Jason Johannisen).
Note: The Dogs have nine above average players and 12 average players.

8. Richmond – Three elite players (Shane Edwards, Dustin Martin and Alex Rance).
Note: The Tigers have nine above average players.

9. Hawthorn – Three elite players (Ben McEvoy, Luke Bruest and Cyril Rioli).
Note: The Hawks have seven above average players.

10. Collingwood – Three elite players (Jeremy Howe, Scott Pendlebury and Jack Crisp).

11. Essendon – Two elite players (Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti and Michael Hurley).
Note: The Bombers have nine above average players.

12. West Coast – Six elite players (Jeremy McGovern, Elliot Yeo, Shannon Hurn, Josh Kennedy, Luke Shuey and Nic Naitanui).
Note: The Eagles have two above average players. Andrew Gaff is listed as an average player.

13. North Melbourne – One elite player (Todd Goldstein).
Note: The Kangaroos have six above average players.

14. St Kilda – One elite player (Jack Sinclair).
Note: The Saints have seven above average players.

15. Gold Coast – Two elite players (Aaron Hall and Tom Lynch).
Note: The Suns have four above average players.

16. Brisbane Lions – Two elite players (Daniel Rich and Dayne Zorko).
Note: The Lions have four above average players, including Luke Hodge.

17. Fremantle – One elite player (Nat Fyfe).
Note: The Dockers have five above average players.

18. Carlton – One elite player (Sam Docherty).

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/01/31/champion-data-ranks-your-club's-list-for-2018/

3 elite for collingwood , get your hand off it , add de goey , treloar , grundy ffs

 

[Westlo]

So Carlton have traded pick 3 for 18 and 17 if CD are spot on.....

Good work SOS

You’ll find it doesn’t matter if you study future trading in America, a lot of the time they * up too.

 

[Virgin Dog]

3 elite for collingwood , get your hand off it , add de goey , treloar , grundy ffs

Remove Howe, Pendelbury and Crisp while you're at it and you're back to 3

 

[weetert]

The "statisticians" at Champion Data have no idea, we knew this already.

 

[compact72]

Mofras top 50 is more accurate than CD.


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Even with the fake players he adds

 

[Power Raid]

1. Melbourne
2. Adelaide
3. Richmond
4. Essendon
5. Collingwood
6. Geelong
7. GWS Giants
8. North Melbourne
9. Hawthorn
10. Brisbane
11. West Coast
12. Port Adelaide
13. Sydney
14. St Kilda
15. Western Bulldogs
16. Carlton
17. Fremantle
18. Gold Coast

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/11/28/champion-data-reveals-2019-afl-list-rankings/

This is obviously based on pure stats, so there are no biases involved there, but of course pure stats do not allow for any nuance and sort of takes the human element out of the equation. Not to mention that stats are not always right, as sometimes they lie, or at the very least give inaccurate or even contradictory information.

So, with that in mind how do you think Champion Data did here?

For myself, well I am biased here but I personally don't think the Swans have the 6th worst list in the AFL going into 2019 though I wonder if others will agree with that assessment.

I also have no idea how West Coast are 11th and Brisbane and North Melbourne both seem too high as well. As for Adelaide, well I am not sure how they managed to get 2nd here, though I would love to see the exact stats and criteria Champion Data do use.

Yep

I have port pencilled in for 12th

It’s going to be painful to watch old hobbling guys supported by guys to big and slow for the modern AFL midfield.

 

[Marc_Remillard]

CD has us in 1st position?

Well, we're completely ****ed now

 

[amazingjoshy]

this is why Supercoach sux

 

[BOMBERS 4 LIFE!!!!]

Essendon only have 2 elite players? what about Merret,Smith,Shiel,Heppel,Fantasia etc

Get stuffed Champion data lols

 

[scoman]

Computers dont lie. Actually they must as they have Brisbane in the wrong place.


They should be higher!

 

[The Falcon Strike]

How dare a a computer algorithm not rank my club higher