I don't think you can compare anyone to Gilchrist, bloke was a freak.
Up until his recent struggles de kock was nearly as good. He’s got time on his side to rectify it, though I doubt he will finish with the record of gilchrist
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I don't think you can compare anyone to Gilchrist, bloke was a freak.
How so? I thought they were two different ways of saying the same thing.
Aggressive batsmen go after the bowlers
Sloggers go after the bowlers.
So my point is still proven. A slogger can be a successful batsman, or in the case if Vivian Richards one of the greats.Ironically one of the few ‘great’ batsmen who would be considered a slogger was so good at it that it didn’t matter - Viv Richards. His penchant for dragging balls to the onside that shouldn’t have been was the very definition of slogging. But his power and eye rendered it immaterial
I've given reasons for my argument. I've provided examples and am having a discussion.This has to be troll thread.
So my point is still proven. A slogger can be a successful batsman, or in the case if Vivian Richards one of the greats.
Which means all of the whining on here is ill informed. Just look at Viv Richards.
So my point is still proven. A slogger can be a successful batsman, or in the case if Vivian Richards one of the greats.
Which means all of the whining on here is ill informed. Just look at Viv Richards.
I've given reasons for my argument. I've provided examples and am having a discussion.
As Phatboy highlighted, one of the great batsmen was an out and out slogger.
This is evidence that it can be effective at test level, which has been my argument all along. I am tired of people complaining about aggressive batting from our test players, calling them sloggers as if it's a bad thing.
Slogging is not the issue.Viv Richards proved it is a viable approach. The issue is they're just not very good batsmen, regardless of which technique they employ.
Viv Richards a slogger. I learnt something new
s**t post that only applies to the T20/ODI side. Does not apply to the test team.I see so many people on this board complaining that the Australian team is full of sloggers and that the only way to craft a test match innings is through a slow but steady approach.
Boy do I have news for you. You are wrong. Oh so very wrong.
Some of the greatest batsmen of all time have been "sloggers" and make many on here look foolish when they whinge our batsmen are too impatient or are sloggers. Let me teach you a little bit of cricket.
Adam Gilchrist: Belted the ball rain hail or shine. One of the greatest batsmen in our history
Michael Bevan: Incredible finisher. One of the great batsmen who gave it a whack.
Sehwag: The Indian Gilchrist, but not as good. Again, scored at a ridiculous rate.
David Warner: Aggressive batsman with a very impressive record. Another slogger.
Chris Gayle: Destructive batsman who blasted a triple century. One of the greatest innings of all time.
Mark Boucher: The South African Gilchrist
Some of the greatest batsmen of all time were sloggers. The proof is above.
Now shut up and please stop whining about it. It is not an issue and never has been.
How is Khawaja ultra defensive?
he averages mid 40's with a strike rate of 51.5, thats basically the same strike rate as mark waugh(52).
This is why stats are often misleading, watching Usman over the years he definitely has a notable tendency to get really bogged down against elite bowling.How is Khawaja ultra defensive?
he averages mid 40's with a strike rate of 51.5, thats basically the same strike rate as mark waugh(52).
Averages mid 40, huh? 43.8 is not mid 40s and his average in the last two years is barely 40.Him being slow to start might be a major issue if he averaged 30-35 with the bat but he averages mid 40s and is our only world class batsmen right now so his approach clearly works at this level.
I assume this is mostly talking about ussie outside asia as well?
His stats must be bad in asia as he pretty much just blocked till he got out and even his one great innings in the uae was a very slow scoring knock that wouldn't show up as a positive in the strike rate stats.
Again, as pointed out, you're looking purely at numbers and not his performances. Typically he is slow to start, but gets rolling a few hours into an innings. The problem is that bowling teams can mount significant pressure when he's not rotating the strike, leading to twits playing rash shots, or the RR completely drying up. He's normally at his best when he's up against it.Your original post was about the side that will play this home series and the balance issues they may have in this series, usman has until recently struggled away but his home record speaks for itself and his approach clearly works just fine on our decks.