Past #6: Taylor Garner - delisted end '21 - 49 NM games/37 NM goals - go well Garns

[mouncey2franklin]

Because having booze in your system when ASADA rock up doesn't get you a two or four year ban.

Neither does having the good stuff in your system.

 

[King Corey]

I've seen the photos. Disturbing but hardly incriminating. Several hirsute grown men, an array of mannequin parts and some torn Essendon jumpers.

Edit: sorry thought this was the "Share your PMs from TT thread"

 

[The Warlord]

Neither does having the good stuff in your system.

Sam Murray, Josh Thomas, Lachie Keefe etc diagree.

 

[mouncey2franklin]

Sam Murray, Josh Thomas, Lachie Keefe etc diagree.

How many times did they get caught before finally being punished?

 

[Groin guru]

I've seen the photos. Disturbing but hardly incriminating. Several hirsute grown men, an array of mannequin parts and some torn Essendon jumpers.

Edit: sorry thought this was the "Share your PMs from TT thread"

Please forward. My wife said I need to be a little more adventurous

 

[ferball]

I think it’s a clear indication that’s Scotts has lost the players!

Good thing some bouncer found them. Scotts shouldn't have been so drunk he fell asleep in the piss tough.

 

[ferball]

The issue for these 2, plus other players obviously, is that we have just brought in 4 senior players who are ready to go. Add to that, there are 6-7 kids who are going to be pushing hard. An injury or an incident growing out of nothing is the last thing they need. Both of these blokes could get left behind real quick.

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Look if they * up that is their business. And they will be the ones to suffer. I'd give them the benefit of being adults and knowing that their career will be riding on what happens next season.

Getting escorted from a pub as seems to be the case (not thrown out,) is not a big deal. When did we become such a bunch of uptight wowsers?

 

[ferball]

They are well within their rights to go out and have a few drinks. That's not the issue here. The issue is getting kicked out of a club and getting in an altercation. Most legit workplaces (outside of working at a fast food chain or retail) would be upset upon hearing that you had a few and got kicked out of a club. It doesn't paint a pretty picture of your maturity or work ethic.

I find this incredibly disturbing, especially that people are okay with it. Maybe I've lived in the bush too long but working for someone doesn't give them any rights over your life outside of working hours.

Plus there are unintended consequences. I know people who work in FIFO mines and get drug tested. Instead of smoking pot on their fortnight off - which shows up in a test even after its no longer affecting them - they take other more serious drugs that don't. These drugs don't show up on tests and then find their way onto mine sites where people use them during their fortnight on work. Accident rates go up and production rates go down as a result.

Its none of any legit workplaces business what you do outside work hours unless you are wearing your work uniform or something similar when you do it. IE if its obvious you're bringing them into disrepute.

That's a genuine threat to people's freedom. As opposed to that stuff we wank on about in that other thread.

 

[pupstar]

I think it’s a clear indication that’s Scotts has lost the players!

You cannot be serious or is that tongue in cheek stuff.

 

[the flying ham]

I find this incredibly disturbing, especially that people are okay with it. Maybe I've lived in the bush too long but working for someone doesn't give them any rights over your life outside of working hours.

Plus there are unintended consequences. I know people who work in FIFO mines and get drug tested. Instead of smoking pot on their fortnight off - which shows up in a test even after its no longer affecting them - they take other more serious drugs that don't. These drugs don't show up on tests and then find their way onto mine sites where people use them during their fortnight on work. Accident rates go up and production rates go down as a result.

Its none of any legit workplaces business what you do outside work hours unless you are wearing your work uniform or something similar when you do it. IE if its obvious you're bringing them into disrepute.

That's a genuine threat to people's freedom. As opposed to that stuff we wank on about in that other thread.

Well said. Nothing from the club. Couple blokes having a pre season froth. No need to read anything more into it

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[GarnerSmash]

Well said. Nothing from the club. Couple blokes having a pre season froth. No need to read anything more into it

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I guess its up to them just how professional they want to be. Two guys, for different reasons, who should want to make every post a winner. They have had about 10 weeks off to blow off as much steam as they want and with another 3 weeks coming up, in the middle of their first serious block of training decide that they will continue to enjoy themselvs during this block. Personally I would hope that they would want to make it as good a block of training as possible and getting pissed on weekends will affect their recovery and thus performance.

Other players will be more focussed and will improve at a greater rate as a consequence. Their loss.

 

[Jindrrk]

My heart rate seems to increase when I see Taylor's thread near the top of the page.....

 

[StiffArm]

My heart rate seems to increase when I see Taylor's thread near the top of the page.....

There should be a reset to all the thread titles mentioning injury over preseason...

 

[the flying ham]

I guess its up to them just how professional they want to be. Two guys, for different reasons, who should want to make every post a winner. They have had about 10 weeks off to blow off as much steam as they want and with another 3 weeks coming up, in the middle of their first serious block of training decide that they will continue to enjoy themselvs during this block. Personally I would hope that they would want to make it as good a block of training as possible and getting pissed on weekends will affect their recovery and thus performance.

Other players will be more focussed and will improve at a greater rate as a consequence. Their loss.

And yet they had a few beers on a saturday night which the club has made no issue of. You have no idea how hard they are working on the track. Stop over dramatizing things. Probably earnt a few cold beers after massive week on the track. The hysteria is ridiculous

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[Snake_Baker]

Taylor, if you ever happen to pop in here and read some of this stuff, then please don't assume that all of us look and act like this:

Have a good pre-season and tear up 2019 mate.

 

[The Warlord]

Yep, no media or club imposed penalty.

Luke is doing his level best to come across as a floggish "Don't you know who I am" type player, but TG has always seemed a very up for it type of personality.

There has never been any suggestion he's anything other than dedicated to his rehab. Players often say he's Brad's favourite.

Meh to all this.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Yep, no media or club imposed penalty.

Luke is doing his level best to come across as a floggish "Don't you know who I am" type player, but TG has always seemed a very up for it type of personality.

There has never been any suggestion he's anything other than dedicated to his rehab. Players often say he's Brad's favourite.

Meh to all this.

......but the world must see and read my moral pontifications, for I am perfect.

 

[The Warlord]

......but the world must see and read my moral pontifications, for I am perfect.

All things considered, Brad seems to have a good balance with the players on this stuff.

Majak quite rightly copped a demotion to the twos when he was out clubbing during rehab. Kayne copped a demotion for his drink driving. Luke copped one for boozing excessively in Tassie last year.

Brad and co will punish bad behaviour where it happens.

Also, it seems like Shaun Higgins sets a real standard around the club. I saw Higgo a few years ago having beers with the boys around this time of year.

Tom Scully or Bailey Smith style teetotal driven freaks are outliers.

 

[Snake_Baker]

It's a non issue.

/discussion

 

[GarnerSmash]

And yet they had a few beers on a saturday night which the club has made no issue of. You have no idea how hard they are working on the track. Stop over dramatizing things. Probably earnt a few cold beers after massive week on the track. The hysteria is ridiculous

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Firstly, you don't know if the club made no issue of it, so thats moot. That it ain't in the public realm doesn't mean it hasn't been discussed.

Secondly, if players want to blow off steam they can do what they like. I ain't no puritan and during their downtime i don't care what players do, as long as it does not impact their performance when at the club or preparation for training or games. This is not where i see issue.

My 'problem' is that its these two specifically. I expect more from these two given their talent, contractual investment by the club and coming off the year they have had. Perhaps my expectations of these two well known party boys on hundreds of thousands of dollars a year is too high but was is a fact is that getting hammered, which these two like to do, impacts recovery. And both would want to have strong preseasons and better years than 18. If people see this position as problematic well, i don't know what to say.

 

[GarnerSmash]

Taylor, if you ever happen to pop in here and read some of this stuff, then please don't assume that all of us look and act like this:

Have a good pre-season and tear up 2019 mate.

Hey, some people get on their high horses about optimising player performance, others about the club employing females.

......but the world must see and read my moral pontifications, for I am perfect.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Hey, some people get on their high horses about optimising player performance, others about the club employing females.

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[GarnerSmash]

Tom Scully or Bailey Smith style teetotal driven freaks are outliers.

There seems to be no room for middle ground in this discussion. I don't want all players to be teetotalers. I want well rounded people who know how to have a good time and know when to pull the leash. My whole point is these two need to pull the leash, IMO, while in heavy blocks of training. All I really want to see is Luke do everything he can to own 2019 and Garner, who is also my mancrush, get on the friggen park. For some reson this position is interpreted as 'players shouldn't drink at all during the preseason'

 

[GarnerSmash]

Its ok mate, you'll figure it out eventually.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Its ok mate, you'll figure it out eventually.

Really? Is that it?

My earlier point wasn't particularly directed at you, it just happened to follow shortly after you had added to others with their silly moralising, however I can see why you would choose to take it on board.

It's a non issue mate.

End of story.