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37k looked right. Excluding the members areas, the ground was at least 95% full (was officially a sell out). Obviously there were many vacant seats in the members, but 37k seemed right. A Swans crowd of 37k is going to look different as the empty seats are more evenly spread, rather than clustered in one spot.Did anyone think the 37,000 posted crowd for the T20 at SCG looked way over? Going on Swans crowds there it would have been barely 30K
The members wasnt even full which it is for most Swans matches and there were thousands of seats vacant all around the stadium..
The WSW are still struggling to pull a decent crowd to Spotless Stadium only 9000 last night.
8163 actually, though they have the oval excuse and will have their new Parramatta stadium before too long.
More worryingly, they were thumped by the WBBL on Foxtel (84k to 41k) even though the WBBL was also on FTA.
It's never hurt them before.NRL having a shocking offseason, this can't be good for public relations.
It's never hurt them before.
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It's never hurt them before.
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It's caused some momentary pain, but any lasting damage to the comp?Clubs have lost sponsors over player behaviours. Much like AFL clubs did over drink driving a few years back.
The NRL dosent have a massive female fan base like the AFL so thats another reason it dosent hurt them as much.
I have seen a difference in female engement in NRL and the AFL traditionally. I think it's changing with the rest of the communities values though. That might actually be the pressure point for the NRL. The boys club is surrounded, and circling the wagons may not work anymore.Yep the bogans that follow and and promote the NRL dont seem to care and just put it down to "boys will be boys"
The NRL dosent have a massive female fan base like the AFL so thats another reason it dosent hurt them as much.
Beatty putting out that all codes should ban players, seems a bit of a desperate attempt to sling some of the mud around.
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22K estimate.Looks like the opening Big Bash game in Brisbane will get to only early to mid 20K's.
Population decline/ageing is the biggest thing. I live in Swan Hill and I think the game is just as popular as ever and it wouldn’t surprise me if we lose 4-5 clubs to either mergers or folding in the next 2-3 years. Junior’s have also dropped an age group out recently. There just isn’t the people around anymore.Rural & regional Qld. have always been, & generally still are, the biggest strongholds of GR RL in Australia. GR AF is only strong in SE Qld, & the Cairns district- but AF is now also making inroads into rural & regional Qld.
The Central Burnett (Central Qld) adult RL comp. is in danger of folding in 2019. Very few small towns have a junior RL team, nor do their schools play RL. This is becoming increasingly common.
https://www.centralnorthburnetttimes.com.au/news/gavin-ford-its-looking-very-grim/3503739/
Mundubbera RL Club President says RL does not have enough volunteers to sustain GR RL, & " The local school has AFL posts on the sports oval. It's disheartening".
Local CNBT journalist M.Colahan wrote on 30.8.18 "Not long ago, Aussie Rules goal posts on outback ovals in Queensland and New South Wales would have been considered blasphemy. Today it's all too common".
https://www.centralnorthburnetttime...gby-league-currently-weakest-ive-see/3507480/
NRL legend Mal Meninga has joined "...the chorus of influential voices who fear for the future of rugby league in the bush". Meninga said "Its a problem in all regional areas". He has also said RL has insufficient volunteers to sustain clubs- "without them, the sport will die".
The CNBT journalist has written "...rugby league comes under threat from less contact-heavy alternatives- soccer and AFL".
https://www.centralnorthburnetttimes.com.au/news/custodians-of-the-game-its-time-to-step-up/3498267/
The NRL are disguising the long term decline of GR male RL players in NSW, Qld, & the ACT by including the huge numbers playing touch/tag (non contact !) in the total "Rugby League" (sic) participant nos.
NRL CEO Todd Greenberg "When asked what he believed was the BIGGEST (my emphasis) threat to the sport, he said without hesitation "Grassroots participation and long term sustainability".
https://www.centralnorthburnetttime...-league-in-the-bush-on-borrowed-time/3498233/
GR AF is also in decline in some very small towns and rural areas in Vic., WA. SA, & Tas. (NT is booming nearly everywhere, though). This is mainly due to declining populations, related to lack of job opportunities.
Please define "foreign".Reading about the Tongan’s saving their RL club is also happen in the Riverina. Most people moving to these towns are foreign farm workers and unfortunately AF doesn’t have this opportunity in regional areas because the farm workers are simply not from football backgrounds.
I’m sure there are a lot more informed people than me but I have a clients who are from Hay, Hilston and Griffith including some who are very involved and from what they tell me they have plenty of Tongan’s who are on what I presume are 457 visa’s who work on the farms in the local areas. Pretty much as soon as any young strong looking bloke hits town they are brought down to the clubs for a run around. If they can play at all they are given a game and some very well paid others won’t be paid. The clubs also love the full Australian citizen islanders because they will do work that the average Australian won’t so they can recruit them easily to these rural towns and set them up with work. You just can’t do this with the vast majority of people. I’ve been told that some teams would be two thirds islanders.Please define "foreign".
(1) Can you provide a rough estimate of the overall % of "foreign workers" (cf true locals) playing adult male RL in the Riverina?
(eg About 15% of all male RL players in the Riverina are foreign workers?)
(2) Ditto a rough estimate of "non- foreign" workers who are brought in to play RL in the Riverina?
(3) Do Riverina RL clubs find full time jobs for these foreign workers before they move to the Riverina?
(4) Ditto non-foreign workers?
(5) Do the foreign workers live in the Riverina permanently- or only for the winter RL season?
(6) Ditto non-foreign workers?
(7) Are the foreign workers, brought in to play RL, being paid by the RL clubs? If so, any idea on average amount?
(8) Ditto non-foreign workers?