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Adelaide Bites lulz what a tragic nick
What can I say? I am a baseball tragic. Wrong sport but......
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It something that my daughter and I bond over with to. We also get to the Ice Hockey during the winter. Plus hearing the whinge about cricket on these pages I think I am not missing anything.
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It something that my daughter and I bond over with to. We also get to the Ice Hockey during the winter. Plus hearing the whinge about cricket on these pages I think I am not missing anything.
- Aug 21, 2007
- 31,670
- 99,023
- AFL Club
- Port Adelaide
- Other Teams
- Aston Villa, San Antonio Spurs
I guess it's meaningless to us now because we're in the upper middle section of the membership table so nobody really cares, but when people were using membership numbers to sink the boot in and send us to Tasmania a decade ago, the inaccurate reporting was hurting us.
Yeah I agree with this. Clubs should only be able to display an AFL approved membership figure.
- Nov 6, 2014
- 60,942
- 75,074
- AFL Club
- Port Adelaide
30 mins to The MCG
I'll believe it when I see it, but this would be somewhat useful!
- Aug 21, 2007
- 31,670
- 99,023
- AFL Club
- Port Adelaide
- Other Teams
- Aston Villa, San Antonio Spurs
If made affordable it would certainly get me spending a lot more money on travelling to the football!
simba_
sucking a lemon
I think it's because if they present false numbers to the fat bogans of Australia all year then the people who really know the figures are in the minority and can be easily dismissed as whiners when we bring it up. It's also to keep status quo.
Joe Blogs doesn't care what the real numbers say - Adelaide is called Adelaide which is the main city, it'll always have bigger numbers than Port Adelaide, that just makes sense! How can Port Adelaide have more members if it's inside Adelaide?! We have to think like bogans to understand
RussellEbertHandball
Flick pass expert
Keep governments out of this and it might happen in a reasonable time frame. Sure the government should fund a feasibility study as recommended in the story re available land, environment issues, planning issues etc, and help fast track (excuse the pun) getting thru this red tape, but don't let them be in charge of funding it otherwise it will never happen. The idea of the government funding an innovation hub is an ok one as well.
My colleague was the deputy chair of the committee that looked into the Very Fast Train concept between Melbourne and Sydney in 1993. He recommended in the interim report that the Oz government go to Germany and buy out the Maglev train and buy the rights and all up spend $500m on that and building stage 1 from Sydney to Canberra and finish it off over the next decade in stages as the money becomes available. The government didn't accepted it because it was lobbied heavily, by BHP who couldn't sell steel to build the tracks and by Elders who wanted to make capital appreciation on land it owned mainly in Victoria and southern NSW in the proposed rail corridor. In 1993 the Maglev was about 18 years old and apart from a 30 km test track in Germany hadn't been purchased by anyone, the price to buy them out back then would have been relatively cheap. The Maglev goes at around 500km/hr but on long runs could be cranked up to 800 km/hr. The TGV type fast train BHP and Elders wanted built goes at about 300km/hr
You can't depend on the government to drive this but they can help. Look at Musk since he first thought about it in 2012, worked on it for a while and then wrote a 58 page theoretical paper in 2013 and said he is to busy to do this but challenged others to take up his idea, 3 different groups have progressed pretty quickly with not much government backing. When you have a bloke called Brogan BamBrogan, Hyperloop One's co-founder, you want to see this succeed.
It's only taken about 3~4 years to go from talking about getting speeds of 800 km/hr to over 1,200 km/hr. Its coming, the only question is one of how long. In November the B1M construction guys looked at the 10 most likely routes around the world and they chose Brisbane to Melbourne. No Adelaide mentioned but it would be in the mix once this got serious.
Government can give land (or at least 100 year leases for use of), where required. Given Australia's population it'd need government funding to be viable most likely. So then you can factor in is it going to a reducer of CO2 via taking planes out of the sky (remembering to include construction), over the life of it. If so you could justify some subsidising on that measure. Also the likes of SA and Vic could re-divert their annual subsiding (although no longer SA) of the Overland to this.
At present you have some travel between cities, where people live in one city, but work in another, but it's rare. Besides the cost, the time stuck in airports turns a '1 - 2 hour' flight into a 3 - 5 hour exercise. Make fast check-in's for carry on luggage and you could have someone able to work in Melbourne, but live in a more affordable Adelaide take a 7.30 am SA time hyperloop from Adelaide arriving in the centre of Melbourne by 8.30 - 8.40 for a 9 am start and a 6 pm Vic time hyperloop back home to reach Adelaide 6.15 - 6.30 SA time and home by 7 - 7.30pm. Total travel times less than trying to get in from 30 - 40 km from the centre of Melbourne during the morning and afternoon crawl there. A similar one of Canberra as a place to live and work in either Sydney or Brisbane becomes more appealing. Taking some infrastructure pressure off Sydney and Melbourne (further justifying initial funding or subsidising). A forward thinking SA government would see this as a chance to get some residents wanting to move here, that aren't looking for the Australian equivalent of Florida.
Though given stories of Very Fast Trains along the Eastern seaboard have been periodically floated since at least the 1980's (and SA can't build anything on a ******* empty block in North Adelaide for 40 years), across state and federal governments of all ideological persuasions, I have zero confidence it would ever be done. As a country we just lack the vision to do anything so bold. If it was proposed I can imagine all the cries of 'Spend the money on hospitals or education!'. Just don't build anything requiring TOO much education though
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- Nov 6, 2014
- 60,942
- 75,074
- AFL Club
- Port Adelaide
Thanks for the.video. Really interesting. Yes the Eastern seaboard would be the ones to benefit which would possibly put another nail in the coffin for Adelaide, unless they eventually saw us as a stop along the way to Perth. I wonder if this could be the way of the future if it is more energy efficient than flight, with flights being one of the biggest contributors to global warming.
Boxx
Premiership Player
- Mar 2, 2014
- 4,645
- 9,756
- AFL Club
- Port Adelaide
- Other Teams
- Dallas Cowboys
Adelaide to Melbourne would be an ideal test track for the hyper loop with a manageable distance and nice straight run with very little geo obstacles.
Sure, the population catchment is much lower than the eastern link - but the logistics of building it for proof of concept would be far easier.
It’s not like it won’t join the eastern link anyway eventually.
The best way to get Melbourne excited about the project, would be to propose a hyper loop between Adelaide and Sydney - no way Melbourne would let this happen and they would probably cough up the cash for the project on their own. Hahaha
So it should cost no more than the O-Bahn ticket from Modbury to the City eh.
- Oct 8, 2004
- 17,920
- 24,167
- AFL Club
- Port Adelaide
- Other Teams
- Liverpool
2019 Premiership odds:
RICHMOND 5.00
COLLINGWOOD 7.00
MELBOURNE 7.50
WEST COAST 8.00
ESSENDON 9.00
HAWTHORN 13.00
ADELAIDE 15.00
GEELONG 15.00
GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY 15.00
NORTH MELBOURNE 21.00
PORT ADELAIDE 21.00
SYDNEY 21.00
RICHMOND 5.00
COLLINGWOOD 7.00
MELBOURNE 7.50
WEST COAST 8.00
ESSENDON 9.00
HAWTHORN 13.00
ADELAIDE 15.00
GEELONG 15.00
GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY 15.00
NORTH MELBOURNE 21.00
PORT ADELAIDE 21.00
SYDNEY 21.00
Lawnchair Larry
Cancelled
- Apr 1, 2015
- 2,627
- 3,098
- AFL Club
- Port Adelaide
Inexplicable odds.
Why would WCE be at 8s?
We wont win but I would not put us at 21s.
Tighter than that.
chiwigi
I’ll make tears from your Wines.
GWS are good value
WC are underrated every year imo
- Oct 8, 2004
- 17,920
- 24,167
- AFL Club
- Port Adelaide
- Other Teams
- Liverpool
Based on the money that supporters bet and not on any informed opinion.
RussellEbertHandball
Flick pass expert
True, but the starting odds are based on opinion by the bookies before the weight of money starts to changes things.
Everyone have a safe and fun new year tonight and may every ones 2019 be the same
RussellEbertHandball
Flick pass expert
Further to my previous answer here is proof why the AFL just dont bother. Its only 2 clubs who are have to make substantial changes after the audit. The Wookie's figure come from his post on July 31st linked below with his sources being the counter on club websites, last stories on club websites who don't have a counter, the last tweet by the clubs' who dont have a counter, or media reports. He states his source for each club in his spreadsheet. Collingwood refused to release their count for all 2018.
https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thre...mbers-now-in-op.1181726/page-36#post-57079937
Port has to raise their kids and baby products from $40 and $25 to $50 and basically the only adjustment would be the 8,000 AOSMA Football members split between Port and the crows. The crows figure is from 12 April 2018, so they probably got to 90,000 members with their freebie e memberships by the 1st August.
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