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Jordan B Peterson. The B stands for bargain.

What is the snake oil and how is it bad?
See numerous posts, articles etc. I'd just be repeating what was already established in this thread and by other genuine thinkers.
 

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Are you in the strongest position to condemn a guy for profiting off snake oil, Chief? *checks ads at bottom of page*
Lol yeah, outbrain ads. Even better are the ads for threads on Bigfooty:
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He turned into Gary Ablett!
 

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What a terrible guy for making money. Never mind the fact that there's literally hundreds of hours of him doing talks and lectures online that he has put up completely free for everyone, including his university work. Are only those working for free altruistic?

He also doesn't claim anything of that sort. But whatever suits your narrative.
as economists would tell you re:eek:pportunity cost, everything has a price. But this business strategy in garnering a strong tribe of consumers, at the very worst your position could be summed as a loss-leader strategy, but it is more transparent and overt, it is compiling an enthusiast cadre of followers, and youtube(google) will sell you advertising, and this revenue will have a commission to JP.
lets be a little more rigorous shall we, JP would encourage rigour. how false and unctuous did I sound?
 

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Hello.

This is Nathan Robinson. Sorry, Nathan.J.Robinson. Nath wrote a hit piece on Jordan.B.Peterson.


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The next time you read a hit piece on JBP, I want you to remember Nathan.

Nathan is still a virgin. Don't be a virgin.

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Jordan Peterson just looks like the 60 year old version of Nate Dogg there. Except Nathan's voice is a bit more masculine.
 

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Young Jordy was a communist too.
I honestly don't believe him when he said that. It's probably part of his tactic to act like he gave socialism some real thought before he realised being a reactionary was better.

As Nate Dogg so succinctly put it:

Here is Peterson describing an important political awakening he experienced from reading George Orwell, who he says finally convinced him not to be a socialist:

My college roommate, an insightful cynic, expressed skepticism regarding my ideological beliefs. He told me that the world could not be completely encapsulated within the boundaries of socialist philosophy. I had more or less come to this conclusion on my own, but had not admitted so much in words. Soon afterward, however, I read George Orwell’s Road to Wigan Pier. This book finally undermined me—not only my socialist ideology, but my faith in ideological stances themselves. In the famous essay concluding that book (written for—and much to the dismay of—the British Left Book Club) Orwell described the great flaw of socialism, and the reason for its frequent failure to attract and maintain democratic power (at least in Britain). Orwell said, essentially, that socialists did not really like the poor. They merely hated the rich. His idea struck home instantly. Socialist ideology served to mask resentment and hatred, bred by failure. Many of the party activists I had encountered were using the ideals of social justice to rationalize their pursuit of personal revenge.

And here is George Orwell, in The Road To Wigan Pier, which Peterson says convinced him that socialism was folly because socialists were resentful:

Please notice that I am arguing for Socialism, not against it. […] The job of the thinking person, therefore, is not to reject Socialism but to make up his mind to humanize it…For the moment, the only possible course of any decent person, however much of a Tory or an anarchist by temperament, is to work for the establishment of Socialism. Nothing else can save us from the misery of the present or the nightmare of the future […] Indeed, from one point of view, Socialism is such elementary common sense that I am sometimes amazed it has not established itself already. The world is a raft sailing through space with, potentially, plenty of provisions for everybody; the idea that we must all co-operate and see to it that everyone does his fair share of the work and gets his fair share of the provisions, seems so blatantly obvious that one would say that nobody could possibly fail to accept it unless he had some corrupt motive for clinging to the present system. […] To recoil from Socialism because so many socialists are inferior people is as absurd as refusing to travel by train because you dislike the ticket-collector’s face.

Orwell flat-out says that anybody who evaluates the merits of socialist policies by the personal qualities of socialists themselves is an idiot. Peterson concludes that Orwell thought socialist policies was flawed because socialists themselves were bad people. I don’t think there is a way of reading Peterson other than as extremely stupid or extremely dishonest, but one can be charitable and assume he simply didn’t read the book that supposedly gave him his grand revelation about socialism.
 

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Jordan Peterson just looks like the 60 year old version of Nate Dogg there. Except Nathan's voice is a bit more masculine.
Before I mock Peterson's lack of physical masculinity, I should explain that I was considering going to a socialist meet up a few months ago. After the event, I saw some photos and it was full of betas and weirdos. So JBP isn't alone in being kinda creepy looking.
 

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I have often wondered, is that what Powder Finger named themselves after?
that is evo 's favourite band, they always stuck me as an anthem band that folks sing along to at the cricket. I 'spose, quite felicitous for evo's brio and oeuvre
personally, I find them a bit milquetoast. I preferred Powder Monkeys meself.

Tim Hemensley ftw



 

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Before I mock Peterson's lack of physical masculinity, I should explain that I was considering going to a socialist meet up a few months ago. After the event, I saw some photos and it was full of betas and weirdos. So JBP isn't alone in being kinda creepy looking.
muscularchristianity ftw
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Before I mock Peterson's lack of physical masculinity, I should explain that I was considering going to a socialist meet up a few months ago. After the event, I saw some photos and it was full of betas and weirdos. So JBP isn't alone in being kinda creepy looking.
You should have gone to the meeting. Sounds like you would have fit right in.

Carpe diem.
 

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I honestly don't believe him when he said that. It's probably part of his tactic to act like he gave socialism some real thought before he realised being a reactionary was better.

As Nate Dogg so succinctly put it:
It’s true.



The NDP were at the time quite left wing. For the boondocks of an oil province, it would be like being a member of the Greens in Bob Katter’s electorate. Guy certainly knows how to swim against the tide.
 
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