Opinion Beams Trade [Officially derailed: Now disussing the folly of gambling, net negative players and the merit of Sier]

[Jen2310]

Would almost guarantee that's why he said it - he may well have not even had a preference, just wanted to get to Victoria somehow.

His statement that was along the lines of "Melbourne just convinced me more how I would fit in to the side" (I think that's what he said) did not ring true to me because any team he met with could have told him how he would fit into a side as a gun key defender.

Yeah, he claimed that the clubs he met with explained how he would help them, but Melbourne explained what they could do for him, and said that's what convinced him. But if the tables were turned, he probably would have said the same thing about the pies. I suppose, what else was he going to say? Not like anyone but him would know whether that was the truth or not.

 

[McOrist]

David Astbury is out of contract and a restricted free agent next year. He'd make a lot of sense as we'd be looking at someone to replace Dunn in the near future.

...only if he's over the sniffles.

 

[Lockyer24]

You always pay kidnappers overs for the safe return of your children

 

[David C]

David Astbury is out of contract and a restricted free agent next year. He'd make a lot of sense as we'd be looking at someone to replace Dunn in the near future.

Go hard at Astbury and he will probably be yours. Richmond have Garthwaite ready to go who can't get a game at the moment plus a bulging CAP.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

You always pay kidnappers overs for the safe return of your children

 

[Quicky]

...only if he's over the sniffles.

We can't all be squares.

 

[Albert Parker]

Correct.

The only way to get high valued talent is to part with big value (draft pick or player).

If Moore is healthy we will not feel a may angst; very excited by what Moore should bring.

Well not quite, with Free Agency. Look at Tom Lynch it doesn't require a draft pick or player if the player is uncontracted.

But yes, I think Moore will be a better player than Stephen May. He's taller and more athletic.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Well not quite, with Free Agency. Look at Tom Lynch it doesn't require a draft pick or player if the player is uncontracted.

But yes, I think Moore will be a better player than Stephen May. He's taller and more athletic.

You would be correct if May wanted to play another year at Suns then move readily to us.

 

[Albert Parker]

You would be correct if May wanted to play another year at Suns then move readily to us.

Actually I was absolutely correct, there is more than one way to get high quality talent on another list other than giving away talent or draft picks as you had contended.
But yes, the FA approach didn't apply to May last season as he remained in contract.

In theory, Astbury is someone we could try and secure to replace Dunn. But why would he move to Collingwood (or elsewhere) when he is regularly playing at a strong club just down the road and where he has established connections. We'd have to be offering him quite a bit more coin and our salary cap can't be much healthier than Richmond's.

 

[adammania9]

Steven May is a great player but not the type we needed. His attacking game is one of the best among key defenders but he is liable when it comes to playing one-on-one and beating his man. Scharenberg I have faith if he can finally get over his injury hurdles can exceed May’s output given he is much stronger defensively than May and is still developing. As far as attacking and intercepting, we already get great service through Howe, Langdon and Moore. We need a #1 key defender to succeed Dunn and May wasn’t it since he can’t play a man.

 

[10571z]

Steven May is a great player but not the type we needed. His attacking game is one of the best among key defenders but he is liable when it comes to playing one-on-one and beating his man. Scharenberg I have faith if he can finally get over his injury hurdles can exceed May’s output given he is much stronger defensively than May and is still developing. As far as attacking and intercepting, we already get great service through Howe, Langdon and Moore. We need a #1 key defender to succeed Dunn and May wasn’t it since he can’t play a man.

Our defense has no issues. Even with all the injuries we held WC under 80 points.

not much has to change. we lost a GF by 1 goal.

 

[frizzle]

Our defense has no issues. Even with all the injuries we held WC under 80 points.

not much has to change. we lost a GF by 1 goal.

I agree. Plus if we can get even 2 of Dunn, Moore & Roughead to play most weeks we will be much better placed against opposition talls.
Considering we basically had no tall KPD's all finals we did pretty well.

 

[ThroatPunchya]

The trade was:

IN: Dayne Beams, Pick 41 (round 3), Pick 44 (round 3)
OUT: Pick 18 (round 1), Pick 56 (round 3), 2019 round 1 Selection

Did we overpay?

No. I can guarantee you that.

 

[10571z]

Ask me after this season if we overpayed. Really we still got 2 decent picks in the draft. If we win a flag I’d have been happy to give up our next 10 first rounders tbh.

 

[Horaceg]

Ask me after this season if we overpayed. Really we still got 2 decent picks in the draft. If we win a flag I’d have been happy to give up our next 10 first rounders tbh.

You’re right, hindsight will tell. Also we don’t know if the Beams kids will be any good and Brisbane can’t F&S them, so maybe a win for next Gen.

 

[Kirby]

You’re right, hindsight will tell. Also we don’t know if the Beams kids will be any good and Brisbane can’t F&S them, so maybe a win for next Gen.

I heard that Beamsey's kids go alright!

 

[TradeDraft]

What he has done this Season so Far I think we Paid Big Overs with 2 1st Rounder for a 30 Year Old who won't get any better

 

[Soups]

Shocker from Beamsy. But I’m not worried he’ll be an important part to our side come finals.

 

[Ron]

Right now he is struggling, but i am hoping he will click into gear come September.
If he plays like this all year then yes we got screwed.

 

[Finnishpie]

He's still learning his role, but his form is down on recent years. He looks slow to me -- maybe niggles he was carrying earlier in the year?

Anyway, we've paid overs but he's still an elite talent so we won't know until the end of the year.

With our injuries he might be our last man standing!

 

[adammania9]

What he has done this Season so Far I think we Paid Big Overs with 2 1st Rounder for a 30 Year Old who won't get any better

Been a part of winning football. Can’t ask for much more at this point.

 

[Adz]

We only need 3 good games from him. In September.

 

[adammania9]

And for the last time, he didn’t cost US two first round picks - the first pick would have been Quaynor anyway. More like one pick 15-18 + junk picks

 

[PIEWITHSAUCE]

Shocker from Beamsy. But I’m not worried he’ll be an important part to our side come finals.

I thought he really looked good against North but seemed way off the pace tonight.

 

[Morganashlee]

If we paid a half eaten mars bar, then we overpaid