Current Claremont Murders - The Bunker

[Chameleon75]

i never used the word "fined"
i used the word "fine" as in ok, great, not problem

I clearly posted "Telstra as a whole organisation..... would have coped fine with the fallout"

I never implied or asserted or posted anything about a monetary other type of fine.

My fine was an adjective not a noun.
It is 100% clear in my post.

Ok my mistake I’ve misread read you then.

 

[BFew]

With the hardcopy page of The West Australian Sporting a BRE-police-amateur footy team link,

https://thewest.com.au/news/claremo...-killer-bradley-robert-edwards-ng-b881114280z

I'm surprised that they did not lead with something from the Central Croc’s Swan Valley NOT GUILTY TOUR ‘09 13th June 2009 flyer (redacted version)

It that was available form the CROCS website immediately after the accused was arrested, and discussed on one of the CSK forum threads back then.

 

[ZeroDucksGiven]

Well I'm going by older media reports, because I think the accused got caught by a familial DNA link when one of his relatives got arrested and tested. DING DING we have a partial match!
Basically zero investigative work by Macro led to his arrest - instead an unruly reckless relative led to his eventual demise. waaa waaa waaa. Can't choose your family after all.

I'm gonna grab my popcorn, frozen coke, sit down and watch the whole MOVIE unfold!

 

[tryitout]

You seemed to have misinterpreted that. It's common knowledge that she was going to Mosman Park to visit a friend. What hasn't been reported is that it was a guy she'd met recently. A booty call if you wish. His surname starts with S. How do you think people know that?

I don't think you understand the term "common knowledge". It actually makes no difference if she was on her way to get laid or going to see her Nanna for a cuppa. Really just stating that because you probably think all women who have sex outside of a relationship are sluts.

 

[Kurve]

Well I'm going by older media reports, because I think the accused got caught by a familial DNA link when one of his relatives got arrested and tested. DING DING we have a partial match!
Basically zero investigative work by Macro led to his arrest - instead an unruly reckless relative led to his eventual demise. waaa waaa waaa. Can't choose your family after all.

I'm gonna grab my popcorn, frozen coke, sit down and watch the whole MOVIE unfold!

Did the relative land a conviction do you know? Or was it one of those phoney, let's arrest this one for something 'oh look ... didnt we see his face on a wanted poster back at that other station we were before I cant remember which one? I think it's him. Best we get his DNA.'

 

[tapdancingbear]

I don't think you understand the term "common knowledge". It actually makes no difference if she was on her way to get laid or going to see her Nanna for a cuppa. Really just stating that because you probably think all women who have sex outside of a relationship are sluts.

I really do not think anyone should be discussing where or why she was going anywhere , it is that she did not arrive there that is the issue , the rest of is nobody's business
As for what people know or claim to know about it is hearsay at best , more likely fantasy

 

[ZeroDucksGiven]

Did the relative land a conviction do you know? Or was it one of those phoney, let's arrest this one for something 'oh look ... didnt we see his face on a wanted poster back at that other station we were before I cant remember which one? I think it's him. Best we get his DNA.'

Dunno of any conviction.
Just IMO neither police nor Macro did enough basic detective work to LINK up the known prior HH offence and alleged prowling reports by unknown suspect WITH later alleged KK sexual assault and 3x alleged murders.
Because if the info leading to BRE arrest was held in Kimono file, as also reported on MSM, then why didn't they twig years earlier? If non-DNA related info in Kimono file led to his arrest, then cops would've found and arrested the accused over this Kimono offence years earlier.
Kimono offence was cold-case until DNA analysis of old cases came onto scene.
Having DNA sample and being able to name DNA sample two separation things obviously.
So I'm saying cops only got the lead to the accused when a relative's DNA produced a partial match. And MSM reported familial DNA was a factor.
A quick births/deaths/registry/drivers' licence search would raise list of male relatives. Okay any of those male relatives have priors. Let's go watch him for a while........
BINGO

 

[tapdancingbear]

Dunno of any conviction.
Just IMO neither police nor Macro did enough basic detective work to LINK up the known prior HH offence and alleged prowling reports by unknown suspect WITH later alleged KK sexual assault and 3x alleged murders.
Because if the info leading to BRE arrest was held in Kimono file, as also reported on MSM, then why didn't they twig years earlier? If non-DNA related info in Kimono file led to his arrest, then cops would've found and arrested the accused over this Kimono offence years earlier.
Kimono offence was cold-case until DNA analysis of old cases came onto scene.
Having DNA sample and being able to name DNA sample two separation things obviously.
So I'm saying cops only got the lead to the accused when a relative's DNA produced a partial match. And MSM reported familial DNA was a factor.
A quick births/deaths/registry/drivers' licence search would raise list of male relatives. Okay any of those male relatives have priors. Let's go watch him for a while........
BINGO

I think it is more that fresh eyes looked at things who had no allegiances to past investigations ... the evidence was always there

 

[Kurve]

Because if the info leading to BRE arrest was held in Kimono file, as also reported on MSM, then why didn't they twig years earlier?

They should have matched his fingerprints up in 1990 agree. Only thing I can think of is that around 86 if my research is right and it might not be exact, the system changed and his from the Huntingdale attack were overlooked.

I hope we find out soon.

 

[tapdancingbear]

They should have matched his fingerprints up in 1990 agree. Only thing I can think of is that around 86 if my research is right and it might not be exact, the system changed and his from the Huntingdale attack were overlooked.

I hope we find out soon.

I really do not think we will find out a lot of things because who will raise it , I don't see the prosecution saying we could have got him before the murders , I don't see the defence asking why they didn't , only if there is an inquiry into the whole mess will those answers come out but I think people have to accept that most will never be known ... I just hope when the trial is complete people let it go

 

[Catcher In The Rye]

Talking about tunnels and cellars. Haven't got the date yet but I must have scanned it off a newspaper cutting.
Pornography

POLICE HAUL UNDER HOUSE

By chief police report CYRIL AYRIS

DETECTIVES Investigating alleged pornography offences yesterday discovered two cellars and connecting tunnels under a house they raided.

The subterranean system was found by chance when one of the detectives moved a floor safe in

the lounge-room.

The safe slipped silently back under the floor, revealing a shaft.

The detectives climbed down into a timber lined room nearly two metres high by about here metres square.

A tunnel led from the room to another cavern farther under the house.

The chief of the DIB, Lee Walker, said that a quantity of graphic negatives of children aged from 10 to 17 had been seized.

The two cellars were dug under a $130,000 house in a quiet suburban street.

They were found after the CIB team, led by Det. Sgt. Jack Gage of the vice squad resumed their search for pornographic negatives.

An exhaustive search of several houses on Wednesday had resulted in the seizure of photographs but no negatives were found.

The police ripped up carpets in one house revealing the safe set into timber floor boards. Carpets

The safe was opened but it was only when one of the detectives fiddled with mechanism that it slid out of view on rails under the floor.

When the searchers peered into the hole they saw a flight of timber steps leading down into the cellars.

When they climbed down the steps they discovered that the rooms had electric lights and there was ducting to carry fresh air into the area.

Sand from the excavations is believed to fill depressions in the back yard.

 

[Willow weeps]

Years ago, a good 18 years ago I was on the Midland line train with a gay friend & I saw the "La Cherie" near Mciver train station. I said to him, "we so have to have dinner there one night because look how cool the front is with it's red carpet & the long canape"
He just stared at me for a good 5 minutes & finally told me that it was a brothel. Iwas so freaking shocked & later I found out that a "swingers" club was behind it. Needless to say, we never did go there for dinner lol. Apparently they were both well known facts in Perth except to me. I've been wondering if BRE ever went to the Swingers Club behind the brothel ever since it came out about the BDSM last week

 

[tryitout]

Years ago, a good 18 years ago I was on the Midland line train with a gay friend & I saw the "La Cherie" near Mciver train station. I said to him, "we so have to have dinner there one night because look how cool the front is with it's red carpet & the long canape"
He just stared at me for a good 5 minutes & finally told me that it was a brothel. Iwas so freaking shocked & later I found out that a "swingers" club was behind it. Needless to say, we never did go there for dinner lol. Apparently they were both well known facts in Perth except to me. I've been wondering if BRE ever went to the Swingers Club behind the brothel ever since it came out about the BDSM last week

But did they serve dinner? May have been an opportunity lost.

 

[Kurve]

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[Melsy]

I'm still freaked out at the lock jaw on Lance Williams, even though there was evidence clearing him of the crime. Its almost like they were trying to kill him with stress so they could put file this in the closed cabinet.

Its frickin weird that finger prints existed but not picked up. I dare say a few are going to come under scrutiny, others side stepped to departments like FESA.

It's so bad, I question if BRE had contacts to avoid prosecution. Its like there was no political will to prosecute.

 

[tryitout]

Jesus Christ on a stick.

 

[Kurve]

I'm still freaked out at the lock jaw on Lance Williams, even though there was evidence clearing him of the crime. Its almost like they were trying to kill him with stress so they could put file this in the closed cabinet.

Its frickin weird that finger prints existed but not picked up. I dare say a few are going to come under scrutiny, others side stepped to departments like FESA.

It's so bad, I question if BRE had contacts to avoid prosecution. Its like there was no political will to prosecute.

It is really disturbing the more I look at it.

Any experienced detective should have known at the Huntingdale attack they had an extremely dangerous predator and that he was living very close in the neighbourhood. And they should not have stopped until they found him. That's aside from lost fingerprints etc.,

Bugging me a bit why he had knotted pantyhose, first we heard of it probably because it would have freaked everybody out if that went to press. It was a garotte.

 

[Melsy]

It is really disturbing the more I look at it.

Any experienced detective should have known at the Huntingdale attack they had an extremely dangerous predator and that he was living very close in the neighbourhood. And they should not have stopped until they found him. That's aside from lost fingerprints etc.,

Bugging me a bit why he had knotted pantyhose, first we heard of it probably because it would have freaked everybody out if that went to press. It was a garotte.

I reckon someone didn't put the 1988 Southside rapist fingerprints in the database. 1990 they did, but that won't help them now.

Ill be surprised if there is not an open inquiry into how we came to this.

I spoke to someone today. After being asked to call back about a car accident involving a drunk nearly killing her in a head on. No one could help her.

Its almost like no one is complicit in conviction because no one wants to see crimes rates etc.

Its that culture and framework that brings us to this situation. Home invasions and car theft have become condoned because it's a waste of resources.

There is a failing in duty. Little wonder so many coppers leave out of apathy.

 

[Melsy]

Im probably wrong , but whether im right or wrong is irrelevant … To me the 1990 crime is the solution to why it was not solved earlier

The 1988 fingerprints looking for the Southside rapist may not have been entered on the national database. If a 1990 compare of existing fingerprints had been done, I doubt we would be here today.

A conviction would have DNA in the database.

 

[Willow weeps]

I've missed where it was stated that the accused had pantyhose tied up in knots

 

[Spinnaker]

Is there a connection between the kimono and the South Side rapist?

 

[Kurve]

I've missed where it was stated that the accused had pantyhose tied up in knots

Here at the Huntingdale attack, he left TWO items behind. The kimono and black knotted stockings.

You'll find most of the information stored in the dedicated media thread: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thre...ions-and-trial-media-reference.1212400/page-2

 

[Kurve]

I really do not think we will find out a lot of things because who will raise it , I don't see the prosecution saying we could have got him before the murders , I don't see the defence asking why they didn't , only if there is an inquiry into the whole mess will those answers come out but I think people have to accept that most will never be known ... I just hope when the trial is complete people let it go

If it was my daughter, I wouldn't let it go. Noooooooo .... there would be heads on pikes before I was done.

Figuratively speaking.

 

[ZeroDucksGiven]

... I just hope when the trial is complete people let it go

Let what go? I have zero clue what you are referrring to here

 

[ZeroDucksGiven]

Here at the Huntingdale attack, he left TWO items behind. The kimono and black knotted stockings.

You'll find most of the information stored in the dedicated media thread: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/thre...ions-and-trial-media-reference.1212400/page-2

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If he put knots in the black stockings it was probably to give his sweaty anxious man hands more GRIP if using stockings to tie up HD kimono victim.

Knots that tie the stocking legs together, at evenly spaced intervals along length of the stockings, would make a flimsy 2-legged item clothing item, into a ROPE-like item. Better to subdue and tie up a victim.