Religion Pell Guilty!

[Del191229]

A legal expert on the radio earlier said (who was at the trial) because Pell did not take the stand it will hinder his appeal significantly

Did they overhear any conversations by Channel 7 reporters in the lift though?

 

[Sainteric]

I guarantee you that is only because he is looking likely to lose his seat.

Yup the North Shore is hardly the Bible belt. What ever you think about Abbott he is a smart politician.

 

[ESKIE]

Someone so powerful so connected .. convicted
I feel for the victims & what courage that man had to take this on I just cannot imagine

 

[Sainteric]

A legal expert on the radio earlier said (who was at the trial) because Pell did not take the stand it will hinder his appeal significantly

This is correct but some of the evidence is pretty iffy.

 

[Sainteric]

Someone so powerful so connected .. convicted
I feel for the victims & what courage that man had to take this on I just cannot imagine

It was numerous individuals this is the only one left standing after many years.

 

[ESKIE]

My agenda is not to see people ruined by what I see as mob rule.

I see many who are merely misled by headlines.

I see others who are so anti-Catholic it is frightening.

So what?

By the way, I'm not going to look but I'm not sure I've made much of people having an agenda in this thread.

What about the boy that was abused
Why would he lie
This is not a witch hunt or about agendas
This is a person of power & influence that r*ped innocent children
Please don’t spin it any other way Pell is not the victim here

 

[ESKIE]

This is correct but some of the evidence is pretty iffy.

Unanimous BRD
Why would a that man lie and put himself & family thru this

 

[Sainteric]

Oh you overestimate these people

Watch some of the people in this thread alone, they will defend him to the jaws of hell (which is where he'll end up). Truth, facts, evidence and reality, none of that will deter them

I have been around some older 75+ Catholics recently none of them believed it or probably the other 1000s of cases. This is probably an issue of blind allegience they have to the church. Which doesn't happen in the more decentralised churches.

 

[Sainteric]

Unanimous BRD
Why would a that man lie and put himself & family thru this

I agree with that but if that was the measure of guilt this would be at least double digits cases against Pell and 1000s of other priests nuns and brothers would be keeping him company, also rape case would have conviction rates of 90%

 

[Len Nicodemo]

All Bolt has done is left himself open for criticism next time he goes on one of his tough on crime benders.

Pretty much. If he wants to get lippy about that topic he will be well and truly up against it, it’ll definitely afford him criticism, probably from conservative viewers as well.

 

[A Cut Above]

Not sure what your point is ACA, priests regularly visit criminals in prison

If I was on death row and they sent in a Catholic priest I'd wonder why impending death wasn't torture enough.

 

[ESKIE]

I agree with that but if that was the measure of guilt this would be at least double digits cases against Pell and 1000s of other priests nuns and brothers would be keeping him company, also rape case would have conviction rates of 90%

Maybe it will

The victim must have been compelling why would he lie why would he put himself through this & his family

People need to accept it

 

[Len Nicodemo]

I was in the lift.

What do you do?

 

[Crankyhawk]

I agree with that but if that was the measure of guilt this would be at least double digits cases against Pell and 1000s of other priests nuns and brothers would be keeping him company, also rape case would have conviction rates of 90%

Appears other case(the reason for suppression) didn’t get up due to inadmissible evidence; which would suggest a pattern of behaviour. Ie there may be double digits of victims just unable/ unwilling to step forward/ believe they can’t as they took money from Melbourne response

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Wealthy conservatives have this primal urge to nail themselves to a cross and claim victimhood.

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

What do you do?

I've probably given up enough in this thread I think. Outside of my own opinions, I've tried to give an insight into how things work and how they went on the day. For that I've worn close to 26 pages of abuse.

Best I step away now.

 

[CD Xbow]

What about the boy that was abused
Why would he lie
This is not a witch hunt or about agendas
This is a person of power & influence that r*ped innocent children
Please don’t spin it any other way Pell is not the victim here

Quite right. B from B can be a bit of a silly billy at times, he's been a James Hird apologist.
I have Catholic friends from Ballarat and they say it was known in the mid 70's Pell was a kiddy fiddler, he even shared a house with Gerald Ridsdale at that time.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

For that I've worn close to 26 pages of abuse.

Thoughts and prayers to you.

 

[Del191229]

I've probably given up enough in this thread I think. Outside of my own opinions, I've tried to give an insight into how things work and how they went on the day. For that I've worn close to 26 pages of abuse.

Best I step away now.

You're clearly a lawyer and jeez, given your performance in this thread, I'd never want you defending me.

"Your honour, the Channel 7 reporter said in the lift that my client should get off, I move for a bad court thingy!"

 

[Admiral Byng]

Wealthy conservatives have this primal urge to nail themselves to a cross and claim victimhood.

I call it "Stage 1 - DENIAL".

 

[Len Nicodemo]

I've probably given up enough in this thread I think. Outside of my own opinions, I've tried to give an insight into how things work and how they went on the day. For that I've worn close to 26 pages of abuse.

Best I step away now.

What do you do as a job? Why were you in the lift?

 

[DaRick]

All Bolt has done is left himself open for criticism next time he goes on one of his tough on crime benders.

It's not like that's ever bothered him or anything.

 

[darklake]

Yup the North Shore is hardly the Bible belt. What ever you think about Abbott he is a smart politician.

Believe me, the point of my post was not that Abbott is smart. It was that he is a scumbag.

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

Quite right. B from B can be a bit of a silly billy at times, he's been a James Hird apologist.
I have Catholic friends from Ballarat and they say it was known in the mid 70's Pell was a kiddy fiddler, he even shared a house with Gerald Ridsdale at that time.

Hang about........back the bus up ONE SECOND!! I have never been a James Hird apologist.

 

[Sainteric]

Appears other case(the reason for suppression) didn’t get up due to inadmissible evidence; which would suggest a pattern of behaviour. Ie there may be double digits of victims just unable/ unwilling to step forward/ believe they can’t as they took money from Melbourne response

If you take the cash you can't bring a civil case? Not criminal