You seem to have all the time in the world to repeat that but you can't just link the data that backs it up, which clearly you have already researched...
Arguing something without anything to back it up is pointless.
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Arguing something without anything to back it up is pointless.
You seem to have all the time in the world to repeat that but you can't just link the data that backs it up, which clearly you have already researched...
Arguing something without anything to back it up is pointless.
It is not readily available but we all have access to it
I am not arguing, I made the statement, so happy for people to refute it, if they can
Yes. I imagine he would’ve clicked a link to some online stats site. Nothing is preventing you but you.
Ian Dunross
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Why are people defending arrows? Put up or shut up
FMD people are blinded by which team colours people are wearing
FMD people are blinded by which team colours people are wearing
Games played, disposals, marks, DE%, top 3 for the 1st 3 years since they were drafted in the last 10 years, for KPD's
Hurley, Carlisle, Weitering
Hurley, Carlisle, Weitering
You argue like a Leftist.
The onus isn't on me to verify the thoughts of someone else.
“Veryify the thoughts of someone else”? How needlessly dramatic; almost Orwellian.
You only need to verify the numbers mate. If you can’t be arsed, move on.
Just made it easy for him by listing the top 3
Until I'm shown the numbers they remain his "thoughts".
You have the names now, offer up a player to contradict/refute that top 3
Ian Dunross
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I'm not sure those stats tell us much.
What are his stats for one on one contests? Contested marks? Intercept marks? Effective spoils?
Solipsistic nonsense.
What ? That's it.
Any numbers you want to include ?
Don't take up science or any other career where data and evidence is required.
Ian Dunross
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Dude makes bold claim
When asked to back up his claim
He says, prove me wrong
People who say prove your bold claim
People are called selfish by a person who supports the same team as the Dude
When asked to back up his claim
He says, prove me wrong
People who say prove your bold claim
People are called selfish by a person who supports the same team as the Dude
Not many/none of us would have those stats, unless you worked at CD
Contested marks behind the other 2 as well Andrews
Also had less TOG% compared to Carlisle, Hurley, Andrews, McDonald, Lever, Talia
Trav the numbers are there for everyone, what I see, is what you will see.
Pick any player you like and do a comparison, Footywire would be the easiest for you to navigate
You can't take into account TOG.
If I'm comparing Oliver to Cripps and Oliver has less TOG I don't make apologies when highlighting the stats. I assume it's because his tank wasn't at Cripps' level. Weitering may have been having his arse handed to him more often than the other guys, hence more bench time.
Weitering run a 15.1 beep, so endurance wouldn't be an issue
As for getting his arsed kicked, I am sure all young players encountered that in their 1st 3 years in the game
But you go ahead and focus on just TOG, when his output was clearly ahead of most of his cohorts
Don’t dis science with your ignorance. You can access the data if you wish, you choose not to. And good science demands peer review, not this entitled “I don’t have to verify anything” attitude you have.
I know TOG wouldn't be an issue for a KD who doesn't need to run as much. That's why I didn't use it in the case for Weitering, but did for Oliver.
You brought up TOG as an excuse, not me. I have no interest in TOG.
Anyway, enough. If you wanted you could provide detailed stats, but you can't be bothered. Nor can I. Besides, I like Weitering's future and have no interest in deriding him. I was only interested in you backing your claims.
Can't find a player with better output, to fit in that top 3?
Never used TOG as an excuse, highlighted so it wasn't used as a refuting argument
Ian Dunross
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Pardon?
Surely you can read Ian, refute it or move on
Ian Dunross
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That's not the argument I'm having "Arrow"
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