Society/Culture Jordan B Peterson

[FireKrakouer]

Nah.
I went to uni in England.

How much did the Feminist Dance Theory bachelor set you back??

 

[DidakDelight]

Some workers fighting for a piece of the pie simply because they weren't fortunate enough to be born with it?

I think you have mistaken me for a conservative.

Interesting perspective about the CFMEU.
Am I reading this comment correctly?

Are they (CFMEU members) oppressed/unfortunate people fighting for their slice of the pie to get back what those born with a silver spoon have taken?


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[DidakDelight]

I wouldn't argue with that, if you are fortunate enough to find yourself with a great lecturer and tutor, in a subject you love, and you can really engage in open and challenging way with them - it is truly a gift you must treasure - and I am jealous. It is precisely that kind of relationship which can elevate your interest and understanding in the subject and potentially twist your entire life destiny around it.

But this is not always the case and I believe - anecdotally - it occurs far less in the humanities fields than anywhere else. Now whilst, Law is, of course, a humanities subject it is also a profession and is thus, unlike most Humanities subjects, forever confronted with and adapting to reality - within the court room, with legislative changes and interpretations which impact real people and their real life issues.

Great post.

This is why legislation is written in grey, not black and white. It’s a beautiful thing to discuss.

 

[its free real estate]

Nah.
I went to uni in England.

That explains the painful political correctness.

 

[Mofra]

Great post.

This is why legislation is written in grey, not black and white. It’s a beautiful thing to discuss.

You've described the fundamental difference between progressive and conservative legal interpretations (e.g. supreme court judges) - those who believe interpreting law for the modern era (intent) vs black letter law.
It's a debate that I'm not likely to see a conclusion to in my lifetime.

 

[Mofra]

https://www.chronicle.com/article/T...oukQ5zGyKAibm3pwBGElRk3OiKcHWDjBOWL0thPrPxPDE

In their parochial, self-serious literalism, they exemplify a style that increasingly pervades public writing by humanities scholars — a style that takes expertise to be authoritative and wields historical facts, however trivial or debatable, as dispositive answers to political questions. Such literalism is bad rhetoric, a way of dissolving argument into trivia. It’s also bad history: At root, it betrays the humanities’ own hard-won explanations of how we have come to know the past.

That's a brilliant article.
It does cut to the heart of the purpose of language which is often completely forgotten (even before we consider the fluid nature of communication, e.g Shakespeare's multiple spellings of his own name and invented words).

 

[yebiga]

That's a brilliant article.
It does cut to the heart of the purpose of language which is often completely forgotten (even before we consider the fluid nature of communication, e.g Shakespeare's multiple spellings of his own name and invented words).

I'm afraid that I find that entire article appealing dribble dressed up with the odd jargon to give it some modern veneer of profundity - there isn't a single coherent thought in the piece. Some pedantic historian objects to the veracity of the analogies made concerning Turmp's proposed wall and this is sufficient for this dude to assume there is a whole literalist school of historians. It is simply not a thing - it's a quirk of personality. And it is simply a bizarro claim. Do you really believe anything but the very odd history professor would object to the Trump wall being referred to as Medieval. Or that charges of witch hunts by Trump misrepresent the Salem witch trial? The guy is a twit!

No surprise this clown emerges from the English department. Any honest to goodness History Professor would be honestly question that Adorno and Foucault have added anything valuable in any field let alone history. And certainly No self respecting Historian would credit Foucault's work as history. Because if one accepts that everything is merely power, oppression and control as Michel does depressingly - there is nothing left to do but for each of us to shoot ourselves and end the human experiment. For Foucault, Adorno and the entire post modern prefects of oppression, offer no meaning or profundity to life. All life, all art all family, love, children, society, music is viewed through a prism of misery. There is no progress or possible progress just a litany of s**t.

Works of extraordinary myth, humour, tragedy and profundity are everywhere in literature to inspire and educate us, the next generation and beyond. The "facts may not speak for themselves" but stories aren't facts - stories are worlds. The English department and its post modern freaks have made the world small dark and miserable. Who the hell wants to either study that or fund it. They should all resign their positions and learn to code because through the lens of Foucault you can't fall in love with Don Quixote and if you can't do that - you do not belong in the Literature department.

 

[ShanDog]

Thread has been cleaned. Enough with the trading of insults and baiting. It's boring and you just look silly.

 

[fleabitten]

Thread has been cleaned. Enough with the trading of insults and baiting. It's boring and you just look silly.

My deleted post was neither an insult nor baiting. I don't think it was boring either. It was actually kind of on-topic. Peterson might not agree with Bulworth's proposed solution, but I think he'd support the idea of a less race-obsessed society.

I won't argue with the looking silly part though.

 

[ShanDog]

My deleted post was neither an insult nor baiting. I don't think it was boring either. It was actually kind of on-topic. Peterson might not agree with Bulworth's proposed solution, but I think he'd support the idea of a less race-obsessed society.

I won't argue with the looking silly part though.

There's always collateral damage in conflict sorry.

 

[FireKrakouer]

As posted in the censorship thread, 12 Rules for Life has been banned by a major NZ book retailer following the Christchurch massacre. Does instructing people to clean their rooms promote terrorism?

 

[Jibroni]

As posted in the censorship thread, 12 Rules for Life has been banned by a major NZ book retailer following the Christchurch massacre. Does instructing people to clean their rooms promote terrorism?

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Huh?

I read the whole thing. How in God's name to he encourage terrorism?

 

[Gough]

I bet he's delighted. Any publicity and all that.

 

[Royal Flush]

As posted in the censorship thread, 12 Rules for Life has been banned by a major NZ book retailer following the Christchurch massacre. Does instructing people to clean their rooms promote terrorism?

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Wow, that's amazing

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[Chief]

Huh?

I read the whole thing. How in God's name to he encourage terrorism?

It would have been that photo of him with the Islamphobe.

 

[its free real estate]

I bet he's delighted. Any publicity and all that.

Probably orchestrated as part of his grift, hey Chief.

 

[FireKrakouer]

I bet he's delighted. Any publicity and all that.

Maybe. Any comment on whether the banning was warranted in your view? I can think of many more controversial books and individuals that could've been prioritised.

 

[Contra Mundum]

I bet you Katja is fat and ugly (anticipated comeback): https://www.pyriscence.ca/home/2018/8/16/jordan-peterson-and-citational-practice


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[its free real estate]

Katja Thieme studies and teaches writing at the University of British Columbia, Vancouver. She grew up in East Germany​

Heh:



Way to prove the race scientists at Quillette right!

 

[CheapCharlie]

Katja Thieme studies and teaches writing at the University of British Columbia, Vancouver. She grew up in East Germany​

Heh:

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Way to prove the race scientists at Quillette right!

The leftist academic thought police are well and truly with us

 

[CheapCharlie]

When you open a bookstore then you can ban whatever book you want.

It doesn't make very good economic sense to ban a best seller if you are in a bookshop.

But then again it doesn't make very good economic sense to open a bricks-and-mortar book shop at the moment

 

[FireKrakouer]

I bet you Katja is fat and ugly (anticipated comeback): https://www.pyriscence.ca/home/2018/8/16/jordan-peterson-and-citational-practice


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I know you're joking, but it IS amazing how you can immediately tell what these people look like by reading just one paragraph of their work. The style vibe I got from her was "awkward 12 year old boy" esque. Google images proved me correct.

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

I know you're joking, but it IS amazing how you can immediately tell what these people look like by reading just one paragraph of their work. The style vibe I got from her was "awkward 12 year old boy" esque. Google images proved me correct.

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Would she still be in the top 3 of your global girls from who youve received nudes?

 

[its free real estate]

She sends nudes with read receipts.

 

[FireKrakouer]

Would she still be in the top 3 of your global girls from who youve received nudes?

I've had some horrors to be sure, but I don't think Katja would be near the top. Although I AM attracted to far leftist women generally... the whole "opposites attract" thing. I used to post regular screenshots in the Trump thread of my texts with "Socialist Sally", before a certain admin got grumpy and deleted them all.