Rioli > Stephenson
Ryan > Elliott
Ryan is not better than Elliot
I am talking peak.
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Rioli > Stephenson
Ryan > Elliott
Ryan has a top 50 player in the league ceiling. Elliot will be lucky to be on a list in 2020I’m an Eagles fan through and through but there’s no way Ryan is better than Elliot. He’s played half a season.
Allen has played 2 league games as well.
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Reckon you’re overrating Ryan significantly. He has the potential to be a top 5, maybe even 3, small forward but that still wouldn’t put him in the top 50 in the league. And he might be in only his second season but he’s not 19; as a mature age recruit, he’s closer to his ceiling than a regular recruit. Rioli looks to have the significantly higher ceiling.Ryan has a top 50 player in the league ceiling. Elliot will be lucky to be on a list in 2020
He's right. WC has a solidly better forwardline than Collingwood.
It's how a team plays as a unit though which counts. For example a midfield with the likes of Kelly, Selwood, Dangerfield and Duncan performed poorly in 2018. WC may be shaky in the first couple of rounds structurally. No Kennedy, LeCras and Cripps is a lot of missing experience. It's raw talent which helps make up for it.
IMO though, Lynch, Reiwoldt, Rioli, Edwards, Caddy, Higgins is formidable. On paper and fit, that's the best lineup.
Apart from their 2018 performances?Don’t disagree that West Coast’s forward line is better than ours. JJK+Darling carries them over our heads for sure, but there is no way that Ryan and Rioli are better than Stephenson and Elliott. No way at all.
Apart from their 2018 performances?
Don’t disagree that West Coast’s forward line is better than ours. JJK+Darling carries them over our heads for sure, but there is no way that Ryan and Rioli are better than Stephenson and Elliott. No way at all.
Letd be honest Stephenson is a mid who in his first season played forward and used his pace to get behind the defense and he did that very very well. He will become a very good if not elite wingman post Sidebottom retiring.
Rioli will be the better forward because thats his natural game.
Both will pinch hit one will rest forward at times and Rioli will push on ball for stints.
I agree but anybody mid kicking 38 goals albeit in their debut season is a very impressive feat. It’s the best season a 19 year old has played in the last decade. He is clearly a very capable forward and one that would have a place in every forward line in the competition.
I think Rioli is and will be the best of the 4, Stephenson being the only chance to outdo him. Ryan is incredibly talented, but motivation will always be a challenge.Don’t disagree that West Coast’s forward line is better than ours. JJK+Darling carries them over our heads for sure, but there is no way that Ryan and Rioli are better than Stephenson and Elliott. No way at all.
Richmond with Lynch is easily the best.
Starting would be
Butler Riewoldt Caddy
Rioli Lynch Edwards
Just trying to understand because I usually rate West Coast fans as pretty level headed.
Are you guys seriously suggesting you don't think Stephenson is better than Rioli? You seriously don't think West Coast would make that trade in a heartbeat?
On Elliott, the bloke has been as injured as anyone yet still manages to be a reliable 2 goal a game player as a small marking forward. Discount him if you like but the bloke is an excellent footballer when fit, which he is now.
Eagles wouldnt trade Rioli.
But lets assume in an alternate universe Rioli asked to go the the Pies and Stephenson asked to be traded to the Eagles.
Straight swap would be an ok break even outcome.
I have no idea what you're trying to say here.Easily.
Yep the chemistry the Riewaldt and Lynch have developed is amazing. The leading patterns as the Tigers surgically move the ball foward is a sight to behold. Streets ahead of any other forward line.
Edwards forward craft is also increadible to watch, his positioning and crumbing puts him ahead of most other small forwards.
I have no idea what you're trying to say here.
Is this an attempt at sarcasm? It's very confusing.
Tore the dees apart on QB ripped richmond a new one in a prelim in front of 96k, had great second half in GF. The hope he fails is for the fools and fairys, Coxy is the real deal. He already commands a triple team in the contest, is it any secret that the smaller guys benefit from this, 40 plus goals from 3, and 30 plus goals from 2 others. It doesnt matter if the public dont want to respect, go ask 17 coaches what they think. He's a weapon up forward, Hes a weapon in the ruck, once this guy reaches 50/70 games will be absolutely unstoppable.
Just something else to consider in the Stephenson vs. Rioli debate, at the end of last year Stephenson was 19, Willie Rioli was 23. That's a huge difference.
Again, West Coast is making that trade in a heartbeat. But since we are having the debate, how about we compare him to someone a bit closer to him in age at 22 years old:
Cox needs the defence to play him like the Tigers did more, I think.The day after tomorrow Cox turns 28; he has played 44 games.
Mihocek 26, 16 games - those two for mine are the weakest looking points of the Pies22, and maybe Roughead as a key back in what generally is a very strong looking list from Collingwood.
Obviously if Cox can play anything like the preliminary final they will very much be in the conversation