Life

[Kram]

Gaming also has a cross over between technology and imagination. Side scrollers like Mario Bros were revolutionary and at the limit of 1980s technology. Mario 64 was the first 3D version in 1996. Over the years the graphics have improved and there are new characters, items etc. but the basic structure of the games hasn't really changed. I played Gran Turismo 5 I think it was in Myer and the graphics were outstanding but after 5 minutes I was over it. Impressive as it was I've played 50 other racing car games before.

It's a constant battle by developers to come up with something new to pique people's interest. Nintendo hit a winner in the 2000s with the Wii gameplay with motion sensors and acceleromoters but that novelty wore off and now everyone has that tech in their stable. Wii was a hit, Wii-U not so much. Their latest point of difference with the Switch is having a console that is both portable and can be connected to a TV.

My nephew aged 10 (and even his 12 year old sister) love playing the SNES mini which surprised me. It's a fair testament to how great the Super Nintendo was/is when it can still entertain kids for hours 25+ years later that were brought up on modern games an technology.

 

[Bomberboyokay]

 

[PP34]

For those of you having a go at parents for giving their kids ipads etc to play with, where are you seeing this? As I would assume you are seeing it in public spaces, like a cafe or restaurant. I don't know about you but keeping your kid quiet and well behaved in a social setting is good parenting and to the benefit of most of us.

If you want to go to places where kids are running around like idiots and making a noise then by all means. I'll take the trade off of them using technology for an hour or so over that.

It happens everywhere. Then you’ve got the issue of parents who naively think their kids aren’t going to stumble across inappropriate s**t.

YouTube especially is filled with awful s**t and a few clicks can you lead you into a wormhole of paedophiles commenting on videos of young kids doing things or those weird as * Elsa and Spider-Man videos that are sexual.

I also am a believer in teaching kids how to socialise in public places. What good is it doing to do them long-term if you shut them up with an iPad everytime you go out for lunch or dinner rather than getting them to learn how to eat and talk in that setting?

I think we’re already seeing the effects of technology as a means to cure boredom with the amount of people at pubs or cafes sitting there with friends staring at their phone the whole time.

 

[raskolnikov]

I don't think many kids smoke anymore?

Kids sneak into the toilets at school all the time to have a durry.

 

[ioppolo]

YouTube especially is filled with awful s**t and a few clicks can you lead you into a wormhole of paedophiles commenting on videos of young kids doing things

What? Is this honestly a thing?

 

[Lemma]

^^Unfortunately yes. It's creepy AF

Relevant article:
https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/19/...ploitation-recommendation-algorithm-predators

 

[Silent Alarm]

Those Elsa videos are seriously something else. I can understand the origin of the cartoon ones – it's expensive, but it's just farmed out to Asian animation studios who just want the pay – but the ones with irl actors spook me... what do these people do during the day? Are they complicit or being told?

 

[tryitout]

It happens everywhere. Then you’ve got the issue of parents who naively think their kids aren’t going to stumble across inappropriate s**t.

YouTube especially is filled with awful s**t and a few clicks can you lead you into a wormhole of paedophiles commenting on videos of young kids doing things or those weird as **** Elsa and Spider-Man videos that are sexual.

I also am a believer in teaching kids how to socialise in public places. What good is it doing to do them long-term if you shut them up with an iPad everytime you go out for lunch or dinner rather than getting them to learn how to eat and talk in that setting?

I think we’re already seeing the effects of technology as a means to cure boredom with the amount of people at pubs or cafes sitting there with friends staring at their phone the whole time.

Solid points. It wouldn't be an issue if parents that wanted to go out for dinner or a drink took them to the appropriate places imo.

 

[Silent Alarm]

imo shithead little kids running around restaurants, yelling, or little turds who kick your chair on an aeroplane and cheekily ask what your name is... that's a sign of a pretty crap parent and generally shitty parents. Most decent people tend to have relaxed kids in social settings.

 

[Gough]

One of the few good things about living in hotels for long periods when I was kid was that neither my brother or I were ever "those" kids at restaurants.

 

[Kram]

imo shithead little kids running around restaurants, yelling, or little turds who kick your chair on an aeroplane and cheekily ask what your name is... that's a sign of a pretty crap parent and generally shitty parents. Most decent people tend to have relaxed kids in social settings.

Their kids are the centre of the universe, show some respect.

 

[FRUMPY]

imo shithead little kids running around restaurants, yelling, or little turds who kick your chair on an aeroplane and cheekily ask what your name is... that's a sign of a pretty crap parent and generally shitty parents. Most decent people tend to have relaxed kids in social settings.

Yeah agree, parents who cant control their kids tend to put them on Ipads/Tablets in social settings as they cant be bothered parenting. Bit of discipline (not even discipline but just general rule to follow while out socially) early teaches kids how to behave, but that is too hard for a percentage of parenting (30-40%), they would rather an Ipad teach their kids.

I find a fair portion (30-40%) of parents 'want' kids but don't 'want' to parent. These kids are then the ones running around unsupervised and take up 70% of the teachers attention at schools.

 

[tryitout]

Free range. Grass fed. 100% organic children.

 

[perthblue]

Free range. Grass fed. 100% organic children.

Gough likes this

 

[Run n Spread]

imo shithead little kids running around restaurants, yelling, or little turds who kick your chair on an aeroplane and cheekily ask what your name is... that's a sign of a pretty crap parent and generally shitty parents. Most decent people tend to have relaxed kids in social settings.

One of the few good things about living in hotels for long periods when I was kid was that neither my brother or I were ever "those" kids at restaurants.

Never got the angst about shitty kids.

I've had far far more problems with ******* adults...........

 

[Silent Alarm]

Never got the angst about shitty kids.

I've had far far more problems with ******* adults...........

But thus the cycle continues.

It's no shock when you see meathead scumbags in trackie dacks and no shoes down the local shop buying five packets of home brand chips, LA cola, and oven fries with a box of durries and Bucking Bronco bourbon then see them scream at their kid and smack them across the back of the head.

Little Ca-sha and Blayton might pick up a few things I reckon.

 

[Run n Spread]

But thus the cycle continues.

It's no shock when you see meathead scumbags in trackie dacks and no shoes down the local shop buying five packets of home brand chips, LA cola, and oven fries with a box of durries and Bucking Bronco bourbon then see them scream at their kid and smack them across the back of the head.

Little Ca-sha and Blayton might pick up a few things I reckon.

True. But this ain't the 90s. Really don't think the bogan thing exists much more.

 

[ioppolo]

True. But this ain't the 90s. Really don't think the bogan thing exists much more.

Wanna bet? They might not be bogan anymore, just flat out white trash, sometimes with a sprinkle of indigenous

 

[Reynolds Number]

It is quite the sight seeing adults on social media and on here complaining about how kids these days lack respect. Given that as adults they love to hang s**t on police, parking inspectors, teachers, members of the judiciary, employers etc. And openly boast about lying on CVs, at job interviews, to the ATO etc.

 

[Kram]

True. But this ain't the 90s. Really don't think the bogan thing exists much more.

According to the BF definitions about 90% of the Australian population is bogan.

 

[PP34]

True. But this ain't the 90s. Really don't think the bogan thing exists much more.

Oh there's still plenty of bogans around.

Working in a bottleshop since the end of year 12 and through uni I've seen numerous kids with bogan pisshead parents slowly start turning into the exact same sort of people.

 

[Exe Gesis]

re-posting here. this is huge.

de-classified documents about ancient egypt and civilizations opens a bunch of new mysteries...and new understandings of what's to come (2012-movie-type mass destruction), and tying peoples, languages, religions, etc, together.

 

[Exe Gesis]

damn, gonna go out and live the rest of my life like it's gonna end tomorrow

nice knowing you all in the brief time we had

 

[Exe Gesis]

Why is the book of Enoch not included in the Bible?
Bible Question:
In Genesis 5:21-24 we are told that Enoch walked with God. In my research I have found the book of Enoch. I have read it over and over and found it to be very moving and very inspiring. It was the very key to bring me back to our Lord and Savior. It is a blue print of all things past, present, and future from Genesis to the Son of Man (Jesus Christ) our Messiah, to the secret day of judgment. It is almost the whole Bible in one book. My question is, why isn't this wonderful book in the Bible?
Bible Answer:
The book of Enoch is one of the Pseudepigrapha books and was apparently written during the second or first century before Jesus Christ. It should be noted that this book is usually regarded to be the Ethiopic Apocalypse of Enoch.[1] There is also a Slavonic Apocalypse which is called the second book of Enoch that was written late in the first century A.D. There is a third book or Hebrew Apocalypse of Enoch which is believed to have been written in the fifth to sixth century A.D.[2] However, the book that is referred as the book of Enoch is the first book which contains one hundred and eight chapters which comprise five sections that are often also called books.[3]
Overview of First Enoch (2nd to 1st B.C.)
The first book of Enoch has five sections. James H. Charlesworth outlines the book as follows:[4]
1. Book of the Watchers (1-36)
2. Book of the Similitudes (37-71)
3. Book of the Astronomical Writings (72-82)
4. Book of the Dream Visions (83-90)
5. Book of the Epistle of Enoch (91-107)
Chapters 1-5 provide a short introduction of Enoch and speak to the major themes of rewards, punishment, the end of the world and final judgment. Book 1 includes chapters 6-36 and is primarily about angels, the Tree of Life, Jerusalem, and the universe. Book 2 includes chapters 37-71 and deals with the One, the Son of God, or the Messiah, resurrection, the flood, Noah, future judgment, and paradise. Book 3 includes chapters 72-82 which deal with the stars, moon, astronomy, the universe, and Enoch’s mission. Book IV includes chapters 83-90 which concern predictions about the flood, a historical sketch, the future of Israel, and the messianic kingdom. Book V includes chapters 91-105 that deal with various challenges for the wicked and righteous. The concluding chapters of 106-108 discuss the sin after the flood until the coming of the Messiah.
Comparison of books of Jude and Enoch
While the book is fascinating to read, it is important to note that the first book of Enoch is not Scripture. That is, the book is not inspired by God. The book was quoted in the Apocryphal book of Baruch, and in several early church manuscripts: Barnabas 16:5, Idolatry 15:6 (Tertullian), and Eccl. Proph 3 (Clement of Alexandria). Some have speculated that Jude 14-15 is a quote from the book of Enoch and concluded that Jude regarded Enoch as Scripture. The following two quotes compare Jude 14-15 to the suspected passage in the book of Enoch.
Jude 14-15

. . . Behold, the Lord came with many thousands of His holy ones, to execute judgment upon all, and to convict all the ungodly of all their ungodly deeds which they have done in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him. (NASB) Jude 14-15​

Enoch 1:9
. . . Behold, he will arrive with ten million of the holy ones in order to execute judgment upon all. He will destroy the wicked ones and censure all flesh on account of everything that they have done, that which the sinners and the wicked ones committed against him. – Enoch 1:9[5]
Upon examination of these two texts, the reader will note that Jude refers to “thousands” of angels, but Enoch refers to “millions.” This could appear to be significant, but the Greek word in Jude that is translated as “thousands” is myrias. It literally means “ten thousand” when used in the singular. When the Greek word is plural, it means “innumerable.” Balz and Schneider state,
myrias “appears 8 times in the NT: in the literal sense, Acts 19:19 . . .; in the sense of myriads/thousands/tens if thousands (without further specification of the exact number).”[6]
Note that the Greek word, myrias, is plural in Jude. In R. H. Charles’ Greek text of 1 Enoch myrias appears.[7] It should be noted that R. H. Charles has written many books about the book of Enoch. He has supplied a Greek text of Enoch. The Greek text supplied by him has myrias in the plural. This means the Greek texts of Jude 14-15 and Enoch 1:9 both contain myrias and the apparent difference of “thousands” and “ten million” is due to differences in translation of the same word. The difference is not real since the Greek word is identical.
Careful examination of the two passages reveals some significant differences, however. First, Jude says that God will “convict” all of the ungodly, but Enoch says that they will be “destroyed.” In the Greek language the words for convict and destroy are different. Therefore, this is a significant difference. There are other significant differences such as Jude says, “harsh things” but Enoch does not. Jude says, “spoken against” but Enoch says, “committed against him.” A comparison of the two passages reveal that the Greek text of Jude has 29 words but the text supplied by R. H. Charles has 36 words.
Therefore, it is inaccurate to conclude that Jude just copied Enoch. It is important to notice that Jude does not quote the first book of Enoch but simply reports that Enoch “prophesied, saying.” That is, Jude is not citing the book of Enoch but the prophet Enoch.

It was also about these men that Enoch, in the seventh generation from Adam, prophesied, saying . . . Jude 14 (NASB)​

Book of Jude Is Scripture
Since the book of Jude was written by Jude under the influence of God the Holy Spirit (2 Peter 1:21), we conclude that the book of Jude is truth. It does not matter if Jude knew about the non-canonical (non-biblical) source. What is important is that God the Holy Spirit guided Jude to write truth because God is truthful (2 Peter 1:20-21; 2 Timothy 3:16-17; Hebrews 6:18). Therefore the first book of Enoch is wrong with regard to some facts and Jude can be trusted. Because Jude quoted the prophet Enoch we can know what happened historically.
Book of Enoch Is Not Scripture
The book of Enoch was never referred to by Jesus or any of the New Testament writers as Scripture, and the book was not included in the New Testament by the apostles. It is commonly misunderstood that the content of the Bible evolved over time. But the New Testament clearly tells us that the apostles were identifying Scripture as it was being written (2 Peter 3:14-16; cf. 1 Timothy 5:18 and Luke 10:7 ). The New Testament books were being distributed by the apostles to the various churches to be read (Galatians 6:11; Colossians 4:16; 1 Thessalonians 5:27; 2 Thessalonians 2:2; 3:14). By the time the apostles died, the New Testament had been written and its books were known. The Muratorian Fragment and several of the early fathers have left us a list of books that were identified as belonging to the New Testament. The book of Enoch was never included. Some books were challenged later but never with success.
Conclusion:
You asked the question, “Why isn’t this wonderful book included in the Bible?” The answer is that Jesus and the apostles never called it Scripture. It is important to note that a few early church fathers highly valued the book of Enoch, but they never referred to it as Scripture. Therefore, we cannot view it as authorative since it is not the Word of God.

 

[Perth gal]

Man knows not the day nor the hour that the world shall end.

Peace brother.