AFL Autopsy Round 1, 2019: Flogging from GWS

[Burzum]

Football is a stupid sport. Spend all preseason getting excited by your team then they come out and play like shit and put you in a bad mood.

Jokes on you, I wasn't excited by our team all pre-season.

 

[Mr Mojo Risin]

Now 12-3, Hurley just got outbodied at full back. Defence really misses Hooksey.

Oooh hopefully we come back and win, we've had more scoring shots.

 

[Lore]

Oooh hopefully we come back and win, we've had more scoring shots.

 

[calyam]

Cross referenced the Giants' scoring players against their player list on their website during the first quarter break. Their two main goal kickers were Cameron and Keeffe - 196 and 204cm respectively. Our tallest defenders yesterday - Francis, Ridley, Hurley, Ambrose - are all 192/193cm. Two others that had shots at goal were also over 193cm, though they didn't convert much or often and are probably tall mids or something. Also solid contributions and plenty of supply from Taranto, Hopper and Coniglio on their side. Lucky them lol

Harvey in the from the coach segment said they weren't expecting Keeffe to play forward (something about his injury), so basically we aren't tall enough in defence without Hooker. Hartley doesn't mark anything anyway so not sure if he's helpful in that sense, though he is at least tall enough to spoil the bloody marks.

At the other end, Langford (191) Stringer (192) Francis (193) and Baguley (178) are our only goal kickers. The talls that we were trying to bomb it to (Brown and McKernan) are both 196 and had one mark inside 50 between them all day.

Not sure if I'm misremembering, but Brown may have been sent back to plug the gaps in defence, which leaves us with no one to bomb it to besides the ghost of Alwyn Davey.

Yeah, selection this week was horrendous. Hartley would have been useful. Even Zerk-Thatcher could have been valuable. In the absence of Hooker, I just cannot see any reason to not play Hartley. A backline featuring a whole bunch of players in the 192/193cm range (and I suspect at least a couple of those guys are a little smaller than that based on seeing them at functions) is unwise.

Our forwards were on a hiding to nothing given how poor the midfield was. But the work-rate of Brown and McKernan, particularly McKernan, seemed well below what we have come to expect. Laverde is really the only player on the outside pushing for selection and I do wonder, admittedly with the value of hindsight, whether we might have had more luck with a more mobile forward line.

What we really lacked up forward this week was our ground game from the likes of Walla and Fantasia. They were completely ineffective - which is quite rare - and left us with few opportunities.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2019-03-25/we-dont-stand-for-that-heppell-shocked-by-dismal-showing

Dois, mate, it’s EXACTLY WHAT WE ****IN STAND FOR. That’s the problem.

 

[sameolds33]

early momentum can go along way to dictating the result of football games

especially when playing away, especially in Round 1

 

[Mercurial89]

especially when playing away, especially in Round 1

In that heat too. Whoever got the jump early was going to be in a very strong spot.

 

[quotemokc]

We are absolute piss when it is even a bit warm, useless in the JLT games and I am sure we all remember vs Freo last year in Perth.

 

[VelvetSledge]

We are absolute piss when it is even a bit warm, useless in the JLT games and I am sure we all remember vs Freo last year in Perth.

Every early season game in Perth, we've been copping 37 degree weather as long as I can remember.

 

[BrunoV]

We are absolute piss when it is even a bit warm, useless in the JLT games and I am sure we all remember vs Freo last year in Perth.

I would love to compare our 2 km time trials to the rest of the competition.

Of the top 5, I suspect 2 are elite (Ambrose and Jock).

The next best runners will be Clarke, Redman and Mutch none of whom usually play and they're probably good AFL runners.

GWS would have 6 best 22 players running at Ambrose's level.

I'd say that Mutch/Redman would be close to their average.

I reckon we'd be bottom 4 for the running capability of our list.

 

[yodellinhank]

The heat, the rain

 

[EnolaGay]

We are absolute piss when it is even a bit warm, useless in the JLT games and I am sure we all remember vs Freo last year in Perth.

Or wet, don't forget wet. Warm or wet, or both. Windy too, struggle when it's windy. Yep, warm, wet or windy, otherwise we are sweet.

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[Mr Mojo Risin]

Or wet, don't forget wet. Warm or wet, or both. Windy too, struggle when it's windy. Yep, warm, wet or windy, otherwise we are sweet.

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Oh yes the wet and heat. Let's hope then we don't come out pissing fire this week like someone wanted or we'll have no chance.

 

[Whispering_Jack]

Or wet, don't forget wet. Warm or wet, or both. Windy too, struggle when it's windy. Yep, warm, wet or windy, otherwise we are sweet.

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You forgot cold - when it's cold it's dewy, we hate that too.

 

[Howard Moon]

Or wet, don't forget wet. Warm or wet, or both. Windy too, struggle when it's windy. Yep, warm, wet or windy, otherwise we are sweet.

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I think we are at our best under a haleys comet

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Adam White (works with Daniel Harford) said last Friday on RSN that he went to our training on the Thursday. He commented how unimpressed he was, sloppy disposal etc. They say you play as you train so be interesting to see what they put up on track this week.

 

[citizen-erased]

You forgot cold - when it's cold it's dewy, we hate that too.

also a lack of any elements when we're at Marvel.

 

[Lore]

Yeah, selection this week was horrendous. Hartley would have been useful. Even Zerk-Thatcher could have been valuable. In the absence of Hooker, I just cannot see any reason to not play Hartley. A backline featuring a whole bunch of players in the 192/193cm range (and I suspect at least a couple of those guys are a little smaller than that based on seeing them at functions) is unwise.

Our forwards were on a hiding to nothing given how poor the midfield was. But the work-rate of Brown and McKernan, particularly McKernan, seemed well below what we have come to expect. Laverde is really the only player on the outside pushing for selection and I do wonder, admittedly with the value of hindsight, whether we might have had more luck with a more mobile forward line.

What we really lacked up forward this week was our ground game from the likes of Walla and Fantasia. They were completely ineffective - which is quite rare - and left us with few opportunities.

I've never been a McKernan fan, but I can't make head or tail of his performance last night. He's capable of better. The team in general was quite fumbly, our smalls don't have a lot of options when the opposition is marking everything and our talls can't even bring it to ground.

It's interesting to me to compare the team selections between our GWS game this year and last year (same deck, totally different outcome) and also the best-ish 22 that we finished with at the end of last year (some of them had a bit of time-share due to injuries and role changes).

Round 10, 2018 A: GWS, 35p win	Round 9-23 2018 Most games, 10W 4L	Round 1, 2019 A: GWS, 72p loss
Forwards Jake Stringer Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti Mark Baguley Shaun McKernan James Stewart Jayden Laverde	Forwards Jake Stringer Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti Mark Baguley Shaun McKernan Mitch Brown Travis Colyer	Forwards Jake Stringer Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti Mark Baguley Shaun McKernan Mitch Brown Orazio Fantasia (from midfield)
Ruck Tom Bellchambers	Ruck Tom Bellchambers	Ruck Tom Bellchambers
Midfielders Dyson Heppell Zach Merrett David Zaharakis Andrew McGrath Devon Smith Kyle Langford Matt Guelfi . Orazio Fantasia	Midfielders Dyson Heppell Zach Merrett David Zaharakis Andrew McGrath Devon Smith Kyle Langford Matt Guelfi David Myers Orazio Fantasia/Darcy Parish	Midfielders Dyson Heppell Zach Merrett David Zaharakis Andrew McGrath Devon Smith Kyle Langford Matt Guelfi David Myers Dylan Shiel
Defenders Conor McKenna Adam Saad Patrick Ambrose Cale Hooker Jordan Ridley Brendon Goddard Matt Dea	Defenders Conor McKenna Adam Saad Patrick Ambrose/Aaron Francis Cale Hooker Michael Hurley/Jordan Ridley Brendon Goddard Matt Dea	Defenders Conor McKenna Adam Saad Patrick Ambrose Jordan Ridley Michael Hurley Aaron Francis .

Also these tables are a massive jerk to work with. Java or something keeps freezing up my browser

 

[Howard Moon]

I've never been a McKernan fan, but I can't make head or tail of his performance last night. He's capable of better. The team in general was quite fumbly, our smalls don't have a lot of options when the opposition is marking everything and our talls can't even bring it to ground.

It's interesting to me to compare the team selections between our GWS game this year and last year (same deck, totally different outcome) and also the best-ish 22 that we finished with at the end of last year (some of them had a bit of time-share due to injuries and role changes).

Round 10, 2018 A: GWS, 35p win	Round 9-23 2018 Most games, 10W 4L	Round 1, 2019 A: GWS, 72p loss
Forwards Jake Stringer Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti Mark Baguley Shaun McKernan James Stewart Jayden Laverde	Forwards Jake Stringer Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti Mark Baguley Shaun McKernan Mitch Brown Travis Colyer	Forwards Jake Stringer Anthony McDonald-Tipungwuti Mark Baguley Shaun McKernan Mitch Brown Orazio Fantasia (from midfield)
Ruck Tom Bellchambers	Ruck Tom Bellchambers	Ruck Tom Bellchambers
Midfielders Dyson Heppell Zach Merrett David Zaharakis Andrew McGrath Devon Smith Kyle Langford Matt Guelfi Orazio Fantasia	Midfielders Dyson Heppell Zach Merrett David Zaharakis Andrew McGrath Devon Smith Kyle Langford Matt Guelfi David Myers Orazio Fantasia/Darcy Parish	Midfielders Dyson Heppell Zach Merrett David Zaharakis Andrew McGrath Devon Smith Kyle Langford Matt Guelfi David Myers Dylan Shiel
Defenders Conor McKenna Adam Saad Patrick Ambrose Cale Hooker Jordan Ridley Brendon Goddard Matt Dea	Defenders Conor McKenna Adam Saad Patrick Ambrose/Aaron Francis Cale Hooker Michael Hurley/Jordan Ridley Brendon Goddard Matt Dea	Defenders Conor McKenna Adam Saad Patrick Ambrose Jordan Ridley Michael Hurley Aaron Francis

Also these tables are a massive jerk to work with. Java or something keeps freezing up my browser

McKernan was playing on a very good defender, who had the ability to subtly chop his arms and played him very tight, after that Smack got a little frustrated, gave away a couple of frees and his confidence waned thereafter.

At his essence he's a confidence player.

Needs to start next round with a bang.

 

[Lore]

McKernan was playing on a very good defender, who had the ability to subtly chop his arms and played him very tight, after that Smack got a little frustrated, gave away a couple of frees and his confidence waned thereafter.

At his essence he's a confidence player.

Needs to start next round with a bang.

And that essentially is why I was never a fan. He's good when the team is good, but can't work through it otherwise. But anyway. Don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything (more) at all?

 

[BigEast]

Lets face it, we're at our best under a closed roof at Marvel, with a 1 hour head start on the opposition. Then again knowing our ineptitude we'd get the ball in Joe's hands from the first centre clearance, 10 mts out straight in front and he'd miss. Then we'd have to wait for the other team to turn up so they could kick it in!

 

[Squeaky]

Just reading the Heppell article linked above:
How many times (in the last few years) have we heard in the aftermath that "that (Sunday's display) isn't what we're about"?
Whether it's player or coaches that have to front up - We come out & say that 1 or 2 times a year (sometimes more)

Words mean f. all.
If you keep playing shit like this then yes it is what you're about. Own it - Fix it!

 

[eth-dog]

McKernan was playing on a very good defender, who had the ability to subtly chop his arms and played him very tight, after that Smack got a little frustrated, gave away a couple of frees and his confidence waned thereafter.

At his essence he's a confidence player.

Needs to start next round with a bang.

Bullshit. He's only any good when his career is on the line. We gave him a 2 year deal based on half a dozen good games last year. Let's ignore the fact that he's had 10 years on an AFL list, has hit double figures for goals twice and averaged over a goal a game once.

 

[Squeaky]

http://m.afl.com.au/news/2019-03-25/we-dont-stand-for-that-heppell-shocked-by-dismal-showing

Dois, mate, it’s EXACTLY WHAT WE ****IN STAND FOR. That’s the problem.

Spot on.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Lets face it, we're at our best under a closed roof at Marvel, with a 1 hour head start on the opposition. Then again knowing our ineptitude we'd get the ball in Joe's hands from the first centre clearance, 10 mts out straight in front and he'd miss. Then we'd have to wait for the other team to turn up so they could kick it in!

Well we had won 5 straight interstate coming into yesterday’s game. That included wins against Eagles, Giants, Power