Autopsy Rd 3 vs Swans. 19 point loss

[skadoosh]

Would have won if we didn't butcher it in front of goal. I think our forward line function is garbage. Maybe we press too far back but how often do we have no one to kick to? Commentators were right, all these marking targets and their positioning is sometimes poor. Need to get this right.
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Believe because we kick along the boundary so often, our talls consistently need to push up to provide a marking option. Whereas if we utilised short kicks around the ground and through the middle as well as used run and carry our forwards would be able to stay in the forward line to provide that marking option.

 

[koutamarto]

Believe because we kick along the boundary so often, our talls consistently need to push up to provide a marking option. Whereas if we utilised short kicks around the ground and through the middle as well as used run and carry our forwards would be able to stay in the forward line to provide that marking option.

Bang!

 

[Robbo's my hero]

Ouch.
But couldn't he have done it last week?

I honestly thought a Carlton player had hit him behind the play and made a quick escape.

 

[blue healer]

I have personally seen improvement.
Nobody accepts an honourable loss, but before we are actually competing for something why can't we look at the actual game itself and be satisfied with some of the things we are seeing.

Regarding the Sun's you need to look big picture. Sure they have won 2 of 3 games but do you look at there list and see flag potential anytime in the next 5 years? Because I look at Carlton's and I do, but not GC, heck I don't even see Top 6 potential for them.

Sorry, I don't have a response to this as my Crystal Ball broke the year we started a 66 game rebuild.

 

[blue healer]

mafs

Is that Mathematics for dull people?

 

[__Bobcat__]

Bogans

 

[Blue__Balls]

I always defended Bolton as didn't think he had much cattle to work with and the general administration of our club is still completely laughable but my patience has run out. Another loss at home to what looks a fellow bottom 4 outfit and if we lose next week you can pretty much lock in another spoon. Complete inability to kick over 100 points in a single game for decades is telling that the coach just isn't good enough.

#historyrepeating

The inability to kick 100 points in decades is telling that the 4th year coach isn't good enough...


Just mull that one over folks.

ILP, just take a deep breath mate. Sydney might finish bottom four, but may do what they've done recently and go from 0-2 to finals. They're a solid, disciplined outfit who have been bringing in talented youth year-on-year while still retaining a core of quality, experienced leaders.

Our problem, and it will likely continue to present for a while yet, is an inability to put together 4 quarters where we either beat the opposition of break even. Hell, we don't need to have four quarters, if we can win two and halve a third, we should win the game. At the moment we can usually win a quarter, halve one, but the last couple let us down. Part of that is because our young team is still working to bed down our own gameplan, let alone learn to adjust on the fly and match sides with a core of players who have been playing together for years. In modern footy, if you get it wrong for 5 minutes, you're three goals down. If a young player gets lost in the contest and lets their man out into space, an experienced side will pounce and punish them for it.

It'll come. We'll continue to learn from the mistakes our players make, the coaches will continue to learn who they can ask to do what and how effectively they will do it. Every year the bulk of our players are getting fitter and stronger, and very few of them are playing at their best.

We have improved coming into this year. It hasn't generated a win yet, but within games we're looking better for longer. We still let ourselves down at times, but those times will become fewer and further between, and we'll learn to better limit how much they hurt.

If you'd said to me during the preseason that we'd lose games to the premiership favourites, Port Adelaide in Adelaide, and the perennial finalists Sydney, I'd have said "Yep, fair enough". Losing to GC this week would suck, for sure, but let's just wait and see on that, shall we. Gold Coast have won their last two games by 3 and 5 points, and lost in round one by a point. We've played against better opposition than them, and been in the game.

 

[iluvparis]

The inability to kick 100 points in decades is telling that the 4th year coach isn't good enough...

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It's called creative license - you should try it.

My point is that we have made the same kind of mistakes again and again for years - terrible skills and terrible kicking in front of goal. This costs us time and time again and the players NEVER SEEM TO LEARN.

Concede we have improved a touch but the problem is the other crap teams keep improving faster than us year in year out so that we are always stuck in the doldrums.

 

[Arr0w]

The inability to kick 100 points in decades is telling that the 4th year coach isn't good enough...


Just mull that one over folks.

ILP, just take a deep breath mate. Sydney might finish bottom four, but may do what they've done recently and go from 0-2 to finals. They're a solid, disciplined outfit who have been bringing in talented youth year-on-year while still retaining a core of quality, experienced leaders.

Our problem, and it will likely continue to present for a while yet, is an inability to put together 4 quarters where we either beat the opposition of break even. Hell, we don't need to have four quarters, if we can win two and halve a third, we should win the game. At the moment we can usually win a quarter, halve one, but the last couple let us down. Part of that is because our young team is still working to bed down our own gameplan, let alone learn to adjust on the fly and match sides with a core of players who have been playing together for years. In modern footy, if you get it wrong for 5 minutes, you're three goals down. If a young player gets lost in the contest and lets their man out into space, an experienced side will pounce and punish them for it.

It'll come. We'll continue to learn from the mistakes our players make, the coaches will continue to learn who they can ask to do what and how effectively they will do it. Every year the bulk of our players are getting fitter and stronger, and very few of them are playing at their best.

We have improved coming into this year. It hasn't generated a win yet, but within games we're looking better for longer. We still let ourselves down at times, but those times will become fewer and further between, and we'll learn to better limit how much they hurt.

If you'd said to me during the preseason that we'd lose games to the premiership favourites, Port Adelaide in Adelaide, and the perennial finalists Sydney, I'd have said "Yep, fair enough". Losing to GC this week would suck, for sure, but let's just wait and see on that, shall we. Gold Coast have won their last two games by 3 and 5 points, and lost in round one by a point. We've played against better opposition than them, and been in the game.

Great post

 

[BlueBayou]

The inability to kick 100 points in decades is telling that the 4th year coach isn't good enough...


Just mull that one over folks.

ILP, just take a deep breath mate. Sydney might finish bottom four, but may do what they've done recently and go from 0-2 to finals. They're a solid, disciplined outfit who have been bringing in talented youth year-on-year while still retaining a core of quality, experienced leaders.

Our problem, and it will likely continue to present for a while yet, is an inability to put together 4 quarters where we either beat the opposition of break even. Hell, we don't need to have four quarters, if we can win two and halve a third, we should win the game. At the moment we can usually win a quarter, halve one, but the last couple let us down. Part of that is because our young team is still working to bed down our own gameplan, let alone learn to adjust on the fly and match sides with a core of players who have been playing together for years. In modern footy, if you get it wrong for 5 minutes, you're three goals down. If a young player gets lost in the contest and lets their man out into space, an experienced side will pounce and punish them for it.

It'll come. We'll continue to learn from the mistakes our players make, the coaches will continue to learn who they can ask to do what and how effectively they will do it. Every year the bulk of our players are getting fitter and stronger, and very few of them are playing at their best.

We have improved coming into this year. It hasn't generated a win yet, but within games we're looking better for longer. We still let ourselves down at times, but those times will become fewer and further between, and we'll learn to better limit how much they hurt.

If you'd said to me during the preseason that we'd lose games to the premiership favourites, Port Adelaide in Adelaide, and the perennial finalists Sydney, I'd have said "Yep, fair enough". Losing to GC this week would suck, for sure, but let's just wait and see on that, shall we. Gold Coast have won their last two games by 3 and 5 points, and lost in round one by a point. We've played against better opposition than them, and been in the game.

You really should stop being so sensible. It is frowned on 'round these parts...

 

[Macca43]

The inability to kick 100 points in decades is telling that the 4th year coach isn't good enough...


Just mull that one over folks.

ILP, just take a deep breath mate. Sydney might finish bottom four, but may do what they've done recently and go from 0-2 to finals. They're a solid, disciplined outfit who have been bringing in talented youth year-on-year while still retaining a core of quality, experienced leaders.

Our problem, and it will likely continue to present for a while yet, is an inability to put together 4 quarters where we either beat the opposition of break even. Hell, we don't need to have four quarters, if we can win two and halve a third, we should win the game. At the moment we can usually win a quarter, halve one, but the last couple let us down. Part of that is because our young team is still working to bed down our own gameplan, let alone learn to adjust on the fly and match sides with a core of players who have been playing together for years. In modern footy, if you get it wrong for 5 minutes, you're three goals down. If a young player gets lost in the contest and lets their man out into space, an experienced side will pounce and punish them for it.

It'll come. We'll continue to learn from the mistakes our players make, the coaches will continue to learn who they can ask to do what and how effectively they will do it. Every year the bulk of our players are getting fitter and stronger, and very few of them are playing at their best.

We have improved coming into this year. It hasn't generated a win yet, but within games we're looking better for longer. We still let ourselves down at times, but those times will become fewer and further between, and we'll learn to better limit how much they hurt.

If you'd said to me during the preseason that we'd lose games to the premiership favourites, Port Adelaide in Adelaide, and the perennial finalists Sydney, I'd have said "Yep, fair enough". Losing to GC this week would suck, for sure, but let's just wait and see on that, shall we. Gold Coast have won their last two games by 3 and 5 points, and lost in round one by a point. We've played against better opposition than them, and been in the game.

The Suns opponents finished 2018 with a combined 20 wins in 13th, 14th & 16th. The blues opponents had 44 wins and finished the H&A season 1st, 6th & 10th.

 

[Aphrodite]

Here is it again ...

 

[murphster]

Positives:
First quarter offence - leads strong, smalls in good spots
Cripps a star once again
Walsh's overall fitness is fantastic, needs to work on kicking with his non preferred
Jones did a good job defending the attacks coming into Buddy
Ed Curnow playing his best game of the year
Murphy looking better week by week

Negatives
First quarter defence - this is where we lost the game, couldn't cement a lead without so many marks inside 50 for the Swans.
Allowing Aliir to be loose for so long. He was untouched for most marks. Tactical error in not putting someone on him as a defensive forward.
Weitering and Jones had 18 touches between them, not enough in modern footy proving we failed to have much control of the ball. Simpson (12 touches) noticeably absent in this regard too.
Tackling (-18 on this stat) too many broken tackles, not enough pressure around the ball
Fitness? I thought we looked off the pace in the final quarter
Mids must be embarrassed that they were taken to the cleaners by Zak Jones

Thoughts on changes:
After two positive efforts, thought the two unforced changes were unnecessary and added almost nothing to our game. With two forced changes, think match committee should have held their fire for another week.

Players on Chopping Block:
Lobbe
LOB
Plowman
Setterfield
Gibbons
Polson

Takeaway: A thoroughly disheartening match. I am enjoying the improvement in the kids and seeing the development of the team as a whole but this was a good chance at a win and felt our leaders went missing when the game was on the line. Gold Coast are looking a hell of a lot better than most thought they would, but its time for the team to stand up - a lift in pressure and a lift in defence and we will be a good chance for a win.

And let’s hope Cripps can take out Swallow again.

 

[Aphrodite]

And let’s hope Cripps can take out Swallow again.

We don't condone violence around these parts.

 

[murphster]

Harry took a mark that was judged a play on as well.

Dustin Martin complaining of being scraggged, ROFL compared to Cripps!

However, I believe the result flatters us and Sydney let us get close. We were at "home".

Marvel has never been and will never be our home, we derive no advantage whatsoever in playing there and have the worst record in the comp there.

 

[Stamos]

Coaches' Votes

10 - Isaac Heeney (SYD)
8 - Patrick Cripps (CARL)
6 - Zak Jones (SYD)
2 - Liam Jones (CARL)
2 - Ed Curnow (CARL)
1 - Jarrad McVeigh (SYD)
1 - Callum Mills (SYD)

 

[Aphrodite]

How's this for a stat ...

Players with 24+ disposals in each of their first 3 career V/@AFL games
1984 - Greg Williams
1987 - Mark Bairstow
1991 - Gilbert McAdam
2019 - SAM WALSH @CarltonFC @AFL

 

[Robbo's my hero]

The Suns opponents finished 2018 with a combined 20 wins in 13th, 14th & 16th. The blues opponents had 44 wins and finished the H&A season 1st, 6th & 10th.

Keep those stats coming. Very informative.

 

[Aphrodite]

 

[Blue and Blue]

We don't condone violence around these parts.

Well it wouldn't be around these parts it would be way up the east coast....

 

[Aphrodite]

Well it wouldn't be around these parts it would be way up the east coast....

Yeah yeah yeah you know what I mean.

We also don't wish injury on players (mens/womens) around these parts.

 

[Foucault1989]

Ahh, a Premiership year that'll teach you for getting on the bandwagon.

My five year old self should be ashamed haha

 

[Sector 7G]

Coaches' Votes

10 - Isaac Heeney (SYD)
8 - Patrick Cripps (CARL)
6 - Zak Jones (SYD)
2 - Liam Jones (CARL)
2 - Ed Curnow (CARL)
1 - Jarrad McVeigh (SYD)
1 - Callum Mills (SYD)

Thought Walsh was better than Mills.

Not that it is related but Walsh ran the 3rd farthest in the comp on the weekend (Duursma ran further which is just as amazing). Would be close to the most for the first 3 weeks of the season, topping 15km every game.

Running farther each game. Just wait until he gets match fit.

 

[VainGlorious]

Horses for courses. Watched the 2018 game. Lobbe played well.

I’m still anxious Need Kreuzer and Cas as a gag team combo. Leave H forward, makes defenders nervous. Really hope Mits McLovin is right to play this week. I’d even leave CAS in the team if we get Curnow back.

I know Levi has his limitations but he is a great contested mark and can be used as a long option delivering the ball to Charles, H and Mits. Relief ruck and also gives us some serious contested marking power

I know we are already too tall but I like CAS in the team for structure. Looks leaner and moiving a little better imo.

 

[HARKER]

Though Walsh was better than Mills.

Not that it is related but Walsh ran the 3rd farthest in the comp on the weekend (Duursma ran further which is just as amazing). Would be close to the most for the first 3 weeks of the season, topping 15km every game.

Running farther each game. Just wait until he gets match fit.

......and over his chronic fatigue.

Going to be a gun is Walshy.