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The study was done on 17 year olds, but worth reading re: posture and neck pain
https://academic.oup.com/ptj/article/96/10/1576/2870247

Also this study on office workers which showed a +ve correlation b/w work posture and neck pain but NOT natural posture and neck pain
http://ijomeh.eu/The-study-of-corre...-pain-in-iranian-office-workers,1962,0,2.html

And this review which only associated low workplace satisfaction, keyboard too close to body, low work task variation and self perceived high muscular tension with increased risk of neck pain. (importantly neck posture was NOT found to carry increased risk of neck pain)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28224291
 
Returned to the gym last night, even though my neck is still in pain when i wake up.

Lifted as heavy as before, whilst avoiding shoulders, and felt good after. This morning the neck was still pinching, but as soon as i wake up and get up, the pain has pretty much gone.

Much more comfortable at work, and my shoulder is better. Did light deadlifts (50kg) and then upped it to (80kg) which started to pull at my shoulder blade. I think this is due to poor technique, as it only happened on lifts i felt like i was doing it wrong.

Day off tonight due to footy, but will go tomorrow night and give my shoulders and back a go.

The rapidgel didn't do much tbh
 
With Rance having done his ACL it’s worth noting Goldsack return after 26 weeks following a rehab plan that looked only at function rather than timeframes eg when he could do C he progressed to D rather than he did Cfor 4 weeks then D for 4 weeks etc
There was another Pies player who did his knee around the same time who took ~35 weeks to return following the same rehab plan which shows people will recover at different rates from the exact same injury.
(Source: SMA conference where a Collingwood Doc was a speaker)
 

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Aeglos said:
With Rance having done his ACL it’s worth noting Goldsack return after 26 weeks following a rehab plan that looked only at function rather than timeframes eg when he could do C he progressed to D rather than he did Cfor 4 weeks then D for 4 weeks etc
There was another Pies player who did his knee around the same time who took ~35 weeks to return following the same rehab plan which shows people will recover at different rates from the exact same injury.
(Source: SMA conference where a Collingwood Doc was a speaker)
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Did goldsack also take the risk and returned in the timeframe when most players are still building strength and rehabbing?

Jake Lever from all reports looks the goods and could play tomorrow, but the club is taking a conservative approach. That's the difference between a 23 year old high prized recruit and a 31 year old on his last legs.

Necessity the mother of invention as they say.

Libba senior was back in 14 weeks? during the during 90's.
 
saj_21 said:
Did goldsack also take the risk and returned in the timeframe when most players are still building strength and rehabbing?

Jake Lever from all reports looks the goods and could play tomorrow, but the club is taking a conservative approach. That's the difference between a 23 year old high prized recruit and a 31 year old on his last legs.

Necessity the mother of invention as they say.

Libba senior was back in 14 weeks? during the during 90's.
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The point is more that they (more or less) ignored standed timelines in favour of a competency based approach (though certainly there is an aspect of the earlier you return the greater the risk of re-injury with 9 months being the magic figure).

I heard earlier this arvo that with Rance they’re considering foregoing surgery in favour of conservative rehab in an effort to get him back this season.
The approach is a bit more common overseas but pretty much unheard of in mainstream Australian sport.
 
Is a dull ache and feeling of stiffness at the top of the coccyx bottom of the spine a symptom of tight glutes or erectors?

I’m leaning towards glutes, think I need to give them a good stretch

Been waking up feeling pretty stiff () lately, nothing debilitating but it would be nice if I could shake it off.
 
showdownhero said:
Is a dull ache and feeling of stiffness at the top of the coccyx bottom of the spine a symptom of tight glutes or erectors?

I’m leaning towards glutes, think I need to give them a good stretch

Been waking up feeling pretty stiff () lately, nothing debilitating but it would be nice if I could shake it off.
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I get that ache all the time. Comes and goes. Sometimes takes a good minute to sit down :(
 
Shoulder is starting to show improvement.

Now elbows are falling apart. I have narrowed down the culprits to preacher curls and lying tricep extensions.

If it's not one thing it's another. I honestly don't know how you blokes go around deadlifting and squatting and all the other powerlifting stuff you do.
 
EasternTiger said:
Shoulder is starting to show improvement.

Now elbows are falling apart. I have narrowed down the culprits to preacher curls and lying tricep extensions.

If it's not one thing it's another. I honestly don't know how you blokes go around deadlifting and squatting and all the other powerlifting stuff you do.
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Self/auto regulation and a * tonne of exercise variation.
 
Aeglos said:
The point is more that they (more or less) ignored standed timelines in favour of a competency based approach (though certainly there is an aspect of the earlier you return the greater the risk of re-injury with 9 months being the magic figure).

I heard earlier this arvo that with Rance they’re considering foregoing surgery in favour of conservative rehab in an effort to get him back this season.
The approach is a bit more common overseas but pretty much unheard of in mainstream Australian sport.
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Goldy also delayed his surgery by 6 weeks. I read somewhere he was still squatting a decent weight pre surgery. Within a couple of months post surgery he was hiking through mountains in Europe. Fair to say he isn't the normal case study.
 
TW Sherrin said:
Goldy also delayed his surgery by 6 weeks. I read somewhere he was still squatting a decent weight pre surgery. Within a couple of months post surgery he was hiking through mountains in Europe. Fair to say he isn't the normal case study.
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Delaying surgery isn’t uncommon.
There’s pretty strong evidence to suggest the better shape (both generally and knee specific) you’re in going into surgery the quicker (and better) your recovery will be.
 
TW Sherrin said:
Goldy also delayed his surgery by 6 weeks. I read somewhere he was still squatting a decent weight pre surgery. Within a couple of months post surgery he was hiking through mountains in Europe. Fair to say he isn't the normal case study.
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Delayed surgery ended up being a myth, he had it the following week.
Goldy had a full rupture, minimal bone bruising and no cartledge damage, and that's also similar to what has been reported for Rance.
As it turned out Alica Camplin was his motivation, she came back from a similar ACL in 16 weeks and won bronze in the 2006 winter Olympics.
 

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Aeglos said:
The point is more that they (more or less) ignored standed timelines in favour of a competency based approach (though certainly there is an aspect of the earlier you return the greater the risk of re-injury with 9 months being the magic figure).

I heard earlier this arvo that with Rance they’re considering foregoing surgery in favour of conservative rehab in an effort to get him back this season.
The approach is a bit more common overseas but pretty much unheard of in mainstream Australian sport.
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Rance has already had surgery and physio's happy he already has full extension.
 
Bazzar said:
Delayed surgery ended up being a myth, he had it the following week.
Goldy had a full rupture, minimal bone bruising and no cartledge damage, and that's also similar to what has been reported for Rance.
As it turned out Alica Camplin was his motivation, she came back from a similar ACL in 16 weeks and won bronze in the 2006 winter Olympics.
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The collateral damage (no pun intended) from the injury and surgery seems to be a big deciding factor in whether or not an earlier return is possible
 
Bazzar said:
Delayed surgery ended up being a myth, he had it the following week.
Goldy had a full rupture, minimal bone bruising and no cartledge damage, and that's also similar to what has been reported for Rance.
As it turned out Alica Camplin was his motivation, she came back from a similar ACL in 16 weeks and won bronze in the 2006 winter Olympics.
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not sure about that. Julian was on mmm and said he was away one week but Goldy waited 6 weeks.

Camplin had an allograft which is not common in Australia.
 
TW Sherrin said:
not sure about that. Julian was on mmm and said he was away one week but Goldy waited 6 weeks.

Camplin had an allograft which is not common in Australia.
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You might be correct. Nic Nat said when commenting on Rance that he waited (didn't give a timeframe) and said he focused on squats to build the quads for post surgery rehab.

And on Camplin, Goldy said in Sundays paper that club doc Ruben Branson told him about Camplin and that was the point in time he thought a return might be possible.
 
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The collateral damage (no pun intended) from the injury and surgery seems to be a big deciding factor in whether or not an earlier return is possible
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That was highlighted in the Goldy article. Same as yesterday's report on Rance, club physio said it was as good and clean a rupture as you could get. My money is on him returning by the end of the year.

Here's the Goldy article if you or anyone is interested. It's a great read.


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Anyone else catch the gymnast dislocating both knees?
I’ve seen plenty of injuries since starting uni and this is probably the gnarliest non-fatal sporting injury I’ve come across.
 
Aeglos said:
Anyone else catch the gymnast dislocating both knees?
I’ve seen plenty of injuries since starting uni and this is probably the gnarliest non-fatal sporting injury I’ve come across.
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Couldn't watch it.

Speaking of gnarly injuries...This made me cry.

 
SHAKESPEARE said:
It's something about doing quads that affects me. Yeah i enjoy a good snap video...but that internal s**t really gets me
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You can see quad ruptures pretty clearly.
Either a little divot just above the patella, or if it’s distal to the patella you’ll see that move upwards towards the hip.
 
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