So the Aged Care Sector want Bill to hand out the cash too, this will end well.
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Your pro-forma One Nation press release 
http://www.theshovel.com.au/2019/04/30/one-nation-candidate/
http://www.theshovel.com.au/2019/04/30/one-nation-candidate/
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Obviously you don't see the social and economic benefits that come from more affordable childcare.
These centres are making substantial profits, how about they pay higher wages if the wages are deemed too low?
We know One Nation are pretty dodgy but not on Fraser Annings level, then why are Labor preferencing Anning over ON in some seats?
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It's a battle of who to preference last - it's a moot point really, as long as both end up in the bottom 2 preference rungs.
Now if they were preferencing Anning or One Nation over, say the Coalition, then that would be a different situation.
Still it’s not a good look
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The baby bust in western countries shows that this would be an absolute disaster of a mindset for any government to have.
The ideal level is a 2.1 birthrate (which is classed as the replacement level), I think Australia is currently sitting at around 1.8 and both governments have actively taken measures to try and increase this.
If a government was to withdraw all forms of financial assistance towards child care/schooling etc that figure would drop well below the current 1.8 figure which would lead to a situation where the country would have a smaller active work force in 20-30 years time which would have to pay higher taxes to support a disproportionately high aging population.
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Of course they don’t.
Now they have no idea on whether the cost will $1M, $1B or $1Trillion.
How can any one in their right mind vote for a policy based on “its the right thing to do” when they don’t know the cost. We are a pimple on the world map and what ever we do will make no difference.
Unbelievable.
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I agree.
I am not sure why someone would even raise it as though it's an issue, no one cares who is last or who's 2nd or last on the how to vote papers.
I am willing to bet that Anning won't be last on the Liberal how to vote cards.
So there is no way being preferenced last or 2nd last will make a difference?
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Not if you're voting for one of the major parties in the House of Reps (unless you're in a seat with strong independant candidate ie Mayo)
It's only if you're voting for a minor party or independent where preferences can be important.
It's all based around the 2PP, so if Labor/LNP are running 2nd then your preference votes are moot.
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Desperate times call for desperate measures I guess.
Sorry was thinking Senate
Not desperate at all, I expect to lose and have since we got rid of Turnbull.
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A couple of Liberal MP’s caught up with Neil Erikson at a rally for white South African farmers. https://www.theguardian.com/austral...-far-right-extremist-neil-erikson?CMP=soc_567
Looking through the Senate nominees working out who to put last is actually rather hard.
The Great Australian Party, Fraser Anning, Citizens Electoral Council and Pauline Hanson's One Nation all running on overt racism.
And that's before you even get to the Clive Palmer, Australian Conservatives, Liberal Democrats and Shooters, Fishers and Farmers end of the spectrum.
Honestly, of the nominees there's only a handful of parties you'd feel comfortable with anywhere near the senate on the basis of sheer competence/not nazis before you get to ideological issues.
For what it's worth Libs in SA are running:
1. Libs
2. UAP
3. Conservatives
4. Liberal Democrats
5. Centre Alliance
6. Democrats
Likely means that those votes will likely be exhausted before they count for someone.
Interesting to see who gets the sixth seat given Libs 2, ALP 2 and GRN 1 almost certain.
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The Great Australian Party gets a regular run on the Nuffies of Australian Politics page. They are a particular level of loopy - they make your regular tin foil hat brigade look like rational people!
As for the 6th Senate spot in SA - would Centre Alliance without Nick still be strong enough to gain that seat?
I thought I read somewhere recently that SHY wasn’t going to get a Senate spot?
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To you have other links other than The Australian. We know The Australian thinks Bill Shorten is the anti-Christ.
Becoming tiresome but wouldn’t expect anything different from you.
Wow, just wow. I don’t have kids but this is just, wow.
And yet getting a tax credit refund when you actually have tax paid is ok. Good to know to your priorities.
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You don’t know why so for once shut the * up!
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The Nationals do a preference deal with One Nation
https://www.theguardian.com/austral...y-to-throw-lot-in-with-one-nation?CMP=soc_567
https://www.theguardian.com/austral...y-to-throw-lot-in-with-one-nation?CMP=soc_567
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Obviously Andrew has met him. Since when has asking have you met him is defamatory?
https://mobile.twitter.com/Qldaah/status/112306060279502028
No wonder Scott is running a one man campaign.
Reckon this is going to unravel for Scotty. No policies going forward so all these other issues will get prominence.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Qldaah/status/112306060279502028
No wonder Scott is running a one man campaign.
Reckon this is going to unravel for Scotty. No policies going forward so all these other issues will get prominence.
Didn't you post a couple of days ago that everyone should pay their own way and government money is only to keep the poor housed and fed.
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