Society/Culture The Abortion Thread

[Taylor]

Oh... You can’t be this obtuse.

Nice you ignored the ivf bit too.

Were you talking about destruction of embryos after IVF?

I don't have any comment on why they didn't address that in their banning of the far more prevalent abortions.

Maybe they'll get to that next. Maybe it's already addressed in their law, I wouldn't be able to say whether it does or not.

 

[Taylor]

I think human life starts when the unique DNA is formed. You don't. I base my position off that.

I err on the side of not ending millions of lives.

 

[its free real estate]

I’d ban IVF. Naturally infertile people shouldn’t breed, it’s a signal from nature you’re unfit.

 

[cartwright]

Were you talking about destruction of embryos after IVF?

I don't have any comment on why they didn't address that in their banning of the far more prevalent abortions.

Maybe they'll get to that next. Maybe it's already addressed in their law, I wouldn't be able to say whether it does or not.

No. It was considered
The hick that you support in your controlling ways said

The egg in the lab doesn’t apply. It’s not in a woman. She’s not pregnant.”

 

[cartwright]

I’d ban IVF. Naturally infertile people shouldn’t breed, it’s a signal from nature you’re unfit.

What? Almost every person I know who fell pregnant through ivf, went on to naturally have a second child.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Hopefully as many Alabaman women as possible find out that they can still have abortions at the moment.

Here's how ****ed up their political system is. 4 of the judges who will re-rule on Roe vs Wade were appointed by Presidents who lost the popular vote.

Institutionalised privilege.

 

[its free real estate]

What? Almost every person I know who fell pregnant through ivf, went on to naturally have a second child.

Not interested in anecdotes. Those IVF babies should never have been born.

 

[Taylor]

No. It was considered
The hick that you support in your controlling ways said

The egg in the lab doesn’t apply. It’s not in a woman. She’s not pregnant.”

They shouldn't be against contraception that prevents implantation then, if it's about not ending the life developing inside.

 

[cartwright]

Not interested in anecdotes. Those IVF babies should never have been born.

What the hell is wrong with you?

 

[Taylor]

He appears to be walking you into a logical corner.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Virtue signalling.

 

[its free real estate]

What the hell is wrong with you?

I don't believe in assisted reproduction. I think it opens up ethical quandaries that leads to active eugenics. Which we already have but everyone keeps quiet about it.

Few talk about the 1000s of girls aborted because mothers from patriarchal cultures get the 10 week NIPT and decide to terminate.

 

[Chief]

I suppose I should have read the Bill! Sorry you are both correct - no penalty for the woman:
http://alisondb.legislature.state.al.us/alison/searchableinstruments/2019RS/bills/HB314.htm



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Except for the financial penalty of having to travel etc. or the health penalty of using an illegal operator.

 

[Contra Mundum]

Except for the financial penalty of having to travel etc.

As I say - it punishes females even if it does not formally penalise them.


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[Contra Mundum]

Not interested in anecdotes. Those IVF babies should never have been born.

..I am against all medical interventions actually - heart and liver transplants, beta blockers, blood transfusions - if someone has got a congenital heart disease - they should not continue to live by these artificial means


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[its free real estate]

..I am against all medical interventions actually - heart and liver transplants, beta blockers, blood transfusions - if someone has got a congenital heart disease - they should not continue to live by these artificial means

No, the already living deserve medical interventions.

 

[Contra Mundum]

No, the already living deserve medical interventions.

Why; it’s natures way


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[its free real estate]

Why; it’s natures way

We have a dedication to the already conceived.

Do you think abortion in the case of female foetus is wrong? What about Down's syndrome foetuses? What about infanticide? Should we be able to select embryos based genetic markers for intelligence?

 

[Chief]

..I am against all medical interventions actually - heart and liver transplants, beta blockers, blood transfusions - if someone has got a congenital heart disease - they should not continue to live by these artificial means


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I will have to tell my youngest son he shouldn’t have been born. It might be a bit of an awkward conversation.

 

[Contra Mundum]

I will have to tell my youngest son he shouldn’t have been born. It might be a bit of an awkward conversation.

But but ..free real estate says he should never have been born.

And in keeping with all the wonderful compassion and empathy shown in this thread let’s force poor woman to have backyard abortions because of God’s love

 

[Chief]

But but ..free real estate says he should never have been born.

And in keeping with all the wonderful compassion and empathy shown in this thread let’s force poor woman to have backyard abortions because of God’s love

“This bloke on the Internet - who I’ve banned in the past for being a complete tit - says you shouldn’t exist. So, back in the test tube mate. What do you mean you can’t fit??”

 

[its free real estate]

But but ..free real estate says he should never have been born.

And in keeping with all the wonderful compassion and empathy shown in this thread let’s force poor woman to have backyard abortions because of God’s love

I don't believe in God, but you do. Are you in favour of third trimester abortions?

 

[AbrahamS]

I'm not too perturbed one way or the other about abortions but forcing a rape victim to carry the pregnancy through is total insanity IMO.

 

[quotemokc]

Except for the financial penalty of having to travel etc. or the health penalty of using an illegal operator.

Alabama isn't that big, 3~ hours in any direction driving and you are in a different state

 

[Contra Mundum]

I don't believe in God, but you do. Are you in favour of third trimester abortions?

I have explained my position on this three times in this thread. The answer is no but making them illegal is not the way to deal with it. I did not accuse you of God bothering - you are the one saying Chiefs kid should not be alive - that was the paragraph directed at you


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