Oppo Camp Jaidyn Stephenson (Traded to Nth Melb. 2020)

[nahnah]

Top 10 from that Draft look quite strong

Really? Looks pretty bad so far to me apart from Stevo and Naughton

 

[jackcass]

Agree with that. Was it considered a weak draft? LDU just looks so pedestrian to me. Dow you can see what they liked, but has very little composure yet.

Hard to know if it'll ultimately be judged weak or strong. Still a lot of players who were picked that haven't had a lot of opportunity so not the immediacy of say the 2018 draft cohort 1st round picks, a lot of mature age types (Kelly, Ryan, Fritsch, Mihochek) and a lot of the talls with very limited to no exposure (Coleman-Jones, Brander, Fogarty, Clavarino, Ballenden).

 

[Leviathan Pie]

Give him a break from what? I just stated 2 correct facts

Opinions, not facts.

 

[sr36]

Hard to know if it'll ultimately be judged weak or strong. Still a lot of players who were picked that haven't had a lot of opportunity so not the immediacy of say the 2018 draft cohort 1st round picks, a lot of mature age types (Kelly, Ryan, Fritsch, Mihochek) and a lot of the talls with very limited to no exposure (Coleman-Jones, Brander, Fogarty, Clavarino, Ballenden).

I'm probably looking more at the pre-draft expectation, as I'm curious about how often that is on the money.

 

[nahnah]

Opinions, not facts.

Check his stats, check Brisbane changes thread, watch a Brisbane game etc. Whatever you wanna call it, I am correct here

 

[Leviathan Pie]

Check his stats, check Brisbane changes thread, watch a Brisbane game etc. Whatever you wanna call it, I am correct here

Sure, think whatever you like.

He'll be a gun.

 

[nahnah]

Sure, think whatever you like.

He'll be a gun.

I do think he will be a very good player

 

[jackcass]

Rayner is playing in a side that has one less win than Stevos. His performances this year have been worse than last year when Brisbane was much worse so that theory doesn’t hold up here. He had 3 touches in a game they won on the weekend.

Also Stevo is a big reason our forward line functions so well now so to ignore that and just say he’s playing in a better team is unfair

Raynor start to this season hasn't been as good as his 2018 form suggested but you're going way too early suggesting Stevo should have been pick 1 ahead of him, particularly when you're comparing different types with different strengths and weaknesses, and relative team performance plays a role.

If anything Tim Kelly is the clear standout career to date but has the benefit of being a mature footballer whereas the others are just kids learning their craft.

In terms of our F50 functionality, it was the return of JDG in R3-4 in 2018 that started to allow that functionality and the introduction of Mihocek circa R10-11 that allowed it to fully click. Stevo benefited a lot in 2018 from the work of those team mates. Cox as well.

 

[sr36]

Check his stats, check Brisbane changes thread, watch a Brisbane game etc. Whatever you wanna call it, I am correct here

Your opinion may be right. It's still an opinion though.

 

[nahnah]

Your opinion may be right. It's still an opinion though.

Everything is an opinion if you’re gonna break it down that far, pies being a decent side is an opinion too but it’s also a fact
If there was a re draft Stevo would be picked first by 90% of teams imo

 

[sr36]

Everything is an opinion if you’re gonna break it down that far, pies being a decent side is an opinion too but it’s also a fact
If there was a re draft Stevo would be picked first by 90% of teams imo

We share the same OPINION.

 

[nahnah]

We share the same OPINION.

just a humble opinion and certainly no fact but I think in a redraft of 2014 de Goey would go above McCartin

 

[jackcass]

I'm probably looking more at the pre-draft expectation, as I'm curious about how often that is on the money.

I think it'll be judged a strong draft cohort when we finally get to see it all play out, as much for the consistent value across the rounds as anything else.

From the top 10 career to date Rayner, Brayshaw, Cerra, Stephenson and Naughton all look like they'll be gun footballers, Clark, Coffield and O'Brien have shown promise, Dow and LDU are a concern. Compare to this years top 10 with Walsh, Rozee, Thomas, Smith and Blakey the clear standout to date. The rest still finding their feet but you've also got Lukosius and the King brothers who'll obviously take more time.

 

[sr36]

just a humble opinion and certainly no fact but I think in a redraft of 2014 de Goey would go above McCartin

It's a fact that we share the same OPINION on this one too.

 

[TradeDraft]

Check his stats, check Brisbane changes thread, watch a Brisbane game etc. Whatever you wanna call it, I am correct here

Stats Can Lie

 

[TradeDraft]

just a humble opinion and certainly no fact but I think in a redraft of 2014 de Goey would go above McCartin

No Really

 

[Copeland]

Great barrel but Pendles was better.

 

[Scottie65]

I think he'll become one of the best forwards, full stop, in the competition. I see him as a gun full forward in the making. His leading at the ball is already up there with anyone around. He's shown the ability to fully extend and pluck it in one grab. He's just beginning to launch at contests. I think monster grabs will come pretty soon. I think he'll become extremely dangerous in the air and he's already deadly at ground level with a fabulous defensive game. Love the way he's developing.

I think he could be developed into an elite midifelder, but I think I'd prefer him to remain a forward, just because real difference makers up forward are just so hard to find.

jaidyn as a junior and in tac cup was taking big grabs all the time...coming in to the big leaugue i think he stopped going the big grab because we was getting out bodied but is now finding the confidence to go for the fly and has been given free reign to go for his marks...only a matter of time he will start pulling down some rippers....im hoping not this year cause i have a green back on it with him saying he wont take one....hahahaha....

 

[Vicky Park]

Stevo winning the Rising Star in his first season was a pretty good indication of how he was, ultimately, ranked and compared with the other 2017 draftees. But saying that, some of his corresponding high draft picks will no doubt hit their straps this season or soon enough.

 

[60 Yards Out]

Rayner was recruited with a tank that was way off, was always going to take a while, but he's a very pretty exciting prospect.

Very pretty? No... that haircut.

 

[60 Yards Out]

jaidyn as a junior and in tac cup was taking big grabs all the time...coming in to the big leaugue i think he stopped going the big grab because we was getting out bodied but is now finding the confidence to go for the fly and has been given free reign to go for his marks...only a matter of time he will start pulling down some rippers....im hoping not this year cause i have a green back on it with him saying he wont take one....hahahaha....

You going to lose your stake, but I get the feeling you won’t mind.

 

[Boris the Contradiction]

He's just a gun.

Should he have gone pick 1? Yeh probably.

Rayner could become a gun too, but right now Jaidyn has him covered. At this level of development he looks better than the vast majority of number 1 picks ever for that matter.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Very pretty? No... that haircut.

Haircut does scream out “flog”
Not saying he is but that haircut gives the calling card of flog.

Sorry, just how it looks

 

[Scottie65]

You going to lose your stake, but I get the feeling you won’t mind.

correct....wont mind at at

 

[sr36]

correct....wont mind at at

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