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That is horribleThe Nationals got ten seats with c5% of the vote, for context the Greens polled at better than 10% for one seat.
I know we’re not supposed to be mean to our Queensland cousins right now but it does seem incredibly shortsighted. They voted for a party to give them a mine that will employ about 1000 people in a state of two million people, in an industry that is looking to automate and get rid of employees. And the only risk is to a tourism industry that employs a large percentage of Queenslanders.I don't really understand the whole Adani thing in the mind of Queensland voters. Isn't it only going to produce like 500 jobs? Would have thought the risk to the Reef, a huge economic risk, outweighed the reward. Seems like very short term thinking but I don't have the experience of someone living there.
Has it?What's the alternative? That's the system we've employed for over 100 years and our govt has been more stable than most others.
It's all a numbers game. Whichever party gets a majority will push what they collectively want to. Both major parties have different factions. If you don't want to see the Labor left or Liberal right or anyone else get in in your seat then your only real option is to vote against them and hope others follow suit.
The Nationals got ten seats with c5% of the vote, for context the Greens polled at better than 10% for one seat.
Ironically enough the CFMEU members in Qld weren't voting ALP, too many jobs were on the line.Queensland has the highest union membership rate of any state.
Out of sight out of mind. I could near guarantee if you polled those who voted for the mine that an overwhelming percentage had never visited the reef and don't have family who directly work in the tourism sector. Of course they'd all have family and friends whose jobs will be at risk when the eventual catastraphohic environmental damage occurs and the tourists stop coming but hey, they'll cross that bridge when it happens.I don't really understand the whole Adani thing in the mind of Queensland voters. Isn't it only going to produce like 500 jobs? Would have thought the risk to the Reef, a huge economic risk, outweighed the reward. Seems like very short term thinking but I don't have the experience of someone living there.
If they're able to think , they won't be saying that about Australia, as much as they would about US, China, India ,Russia.Out of sight out of mind. I could near guarantee if you polled those who voted for the mine that an overwhelming percentage had never visited the reef and don't have family who directly work in the tourism sector. Of course they'd all have family and friends whose jobs will be at risk when the eventual catastraphohic environmental damage occurs and the tourists stop coming but hey, they'll cross that bridge when it happens.
The Aboriginal people must think wtf are these people willingly doing to the land from which they live off.
Not really relevant to the Adani mine and its direct impact on the reef though is it.If they're able to think , they won't be saying that about Australia, as much as they would about US, China, India ,Russia.
*If* Armageddon happened
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All part of the obfuscation designed to stop anything at all being done.Not really relevant to the Adani mine and its direct impact on the reef though is it.
The claims ranged from 1,464 to 10,000 jobs. It's hard to say exactly because a lot of the economic modelling around indirect work created by a given project is a little bit tenuous. You also have to remember a couple of things:I don't really understand the whole Adani thing in the mind of Queensland voters. Isn't it only going to produce like 500 jobs?
Firstly, being employed is A Big Thing and something that a lot of people take for granted. If you're worried about your immediate ability to feed yourself, support a family, keep your home - or someone close to you's ability to do that - the environment doesn't mean s**t.Would have thought the risk to the Reef, a huge economic risk, outweighed the reward. Seems like very short term thinking but I don't have the experience of someone living there.
Yes it's totally relevant to climate change policy.Not really relevant to the Adani mine and its direct impact on the reef though is it.
I get it. Liberal good, Labor bad. So tiresome dealing with idiots who treat their choice of political party like a sports team. Give you a heads up, they're all useless.Yes it's totally relevant to climate change policy.
The Labor state government has squandered Billions , since the last mining boom.
It sure needs the royalties from Adani.
Feasibility reports and studies conclude there will be no consequences to the great barrier reef
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I voted LiberalSalty
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All of my clients that drive utes with a tool trailer are over the moon.I voted Liberal
Has it?
You do realize that isn't the end goal for the people behind the push to stop live exportLabor were going to stop live animal exports that would have been good
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Ironically enough the CFMEU members in Qld weren't voting ALP, too many jobs were on the line.
I still don't understand it, if true.
Because the CFMEU campaigned against the LNP
If they're able to think , they won't be saying that about Australia, as much as they would about US, China, India ,Russia.
*If* Armageddon happened
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Wages won't be an issue they'll be way above any standard industry award rate of pay.The CFMEU represents the interests of workers. If I was feeling cynical I'd say they represent the interests of the CFMEU first and foremost, but let's not go off on a tangent.
If this was 1980 the blue collar workers of Qld would vote ALP because ALP is in bed with the unions and therefore the workers would have the most power to ensure their members are getting the jobs and getting the best conditions. But it's not 1980. The ALP is (very softly) not in support of the industry that provides the jobs in the first place. Not much point having a union fighting for wages and conditions for jobs that don't or won't exist. So they voted LNP who instead of thinking 1980 are thinking 1890 and want more investment in coal mining and coal fired power. But if and when Adani goes ahead the LNP won't give a stuff how many people are employed or what their wages and conditions are. So the workers will go back to the union and the union will lobby the ALP who don't want coal in the first place.
You make it sound like it's a bad thingCoal Imports by Country
Coal Exports by Country
- Japan: US$25.4 billion (16.7% of total coal imports)
- India: $24.6 billion (16.2%)
- China: $19.6 billion (12.9%)
- South Korea: $16.5 billion (10.9%)
Small time player, big time enabler.
- Australia: US$47 billion (36.9% of total coal exports)
Hadnt thought about it but doesnt mean its ok to continue itYou do realize that isn't the end goal for the people behind the push to stop live export