2019 Trade thread

[lionshine]

We have four star's on our list in Neale, Zorko, Andrews and Cameron. Adding a 5th A grader to that list plus the continued improvement from youngsters like McCluggage, Berry, Rayner and Witherden should put us in a great spot for a top 4 finish next year. I do think we are lacking that 5th star at the moment though. If we had just 1 more high quality player I think it would have been the difference in the Dogs/Freo games. Perhaps McCluggage will join that group from next year onwards? I'd love another gun from left field to join us this off season though.

 

[Tom14]

Parish was very good again today. Two excellent weeks in the middle in a row.

 

[briztoon]

We have four star's on our list in Neale, Zorko, Andrews and Cameron. Adding a 5th A grader to that list plus the continued improvement from youngsters like McCluggage, Berry, Rayner and Witherden should put us in a great spot for a top 4 finish next year. I do think we are lacking that 5th star at the moment though. If we had just 1 more high quality player I think it would have been the difference in the Dogs/Freo games. Perhaps McCluggage will join that group from next year onwards? I'd love another gun from left field to join us this off season though.

Tom Joyce.

Just wait.

 

[Dalions]

Tom Joyce.

Just wait.

I didn’t see a lot of the NEAFL game yesterday, but what I did see I thought his attack on the ball, even in the 4th quarter when the game was done and dusted was first class.
Still needs work on his disposal and maybe decision making but he looks the goods.

 

[Dylan12]

We have four star's on our list in Neale, Zorko, Andrews and Cameron. Adding a 5th A grader to that list plus the continued improvement from youngsters like McCluggage, Berry, Rayner and Witherden should put us in a great spot for a top 4 finish next year. I do think we are lacking that 5th star at the moment though. If we had just 1 more high quality player I think it would have been the difference in the Dogs/Freo games. Perhaps McCluggage will join that group from next year onwards? I'd love another gun from left field to join us this off season though.

Tommy Cutler...time to let him of the leash.

 

[buttermuffs]

Tommy Cutler...time to let him of the leash.

Okay, is this sarcasm?


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[lionshine]

Tom Joyce.

Just wait.

I like him.

 

[Dylan12]

Okay, is this sarcasm?

No; he has all the attributes of some of the game's best, he just needs an extended run and simply to be let off the leash to run, kick long without fear of the axe and we;ll see the best of him.

 

[buttermuffs]

No; he has all the attributes of some of the game's best, he just needs an extended run and simply to be let off the leash to run, kick long without fear of the axe and we;ll see the best of him.

Fagan has always encouraged people to take the game on, and has historically not punished people for it. I would say Cutler’s problem wouldn’t have been that he wasn’t allowed to take the game on.

Also, they’ve persisted with Rayner this year because he’s young and has potential. Why wouldn’t they persist with Cutler if he seemingly has basically hit that potential? He might have the skills but he obviously is lacking in other departments.

 

[Brizzys Squizzy]

Fagan has always encouraged people to take the game on, and has historically not punished people for it. I would say Cutler’s problem wouldn’t have been that he wasn’t allowed to take the game on.

Also, they’ve persisted with Rayner this year because he’s young and has potential. Why wouldn’t they persist with Cutler if he seemingly has basically hit that potential? He might have the skills but he obviously is lacking in other departments.

Yep for the position he plays lacks defensive running agree with most has huge ability but the one thing that's a standout in our side at the moment is pressure imo cutler been left behind needs to improve once he does certain starter.

 

[BangyBangy]

Random hypothetical. Josh Walker & something to the Suns in return for Jack Martin. Haven't spent a whole lot of time watching suns games this year but figure they could slot Walker into the backline. Thoughts?

 

[jackess]

Random hypothetical. Josh Walker & something to the Suns in return for Jack Martin. Haven't spent a whole lot of time watching suns games this year but figure they could slot Walker into the backline. Thoughts?

Josh Walker and a lot for Jack Martin. Or just a lot for Jack Martin

 

[Tom14]

Random hypothetical. Josh Walker & something to the Suns in return for Jack Martin. Haven't spent a whole lot of time watching suns games this year but figure they could slot Walker into the backline. Thoughts?

Would he be an upgrade on Homscbh? Seem similar sorts of players to me. Kieran Collins on a small sample size is a better player than Josh.

 

[BangyBangy]

Josh Walker and a lot for Jack Martin. Or just a lot for Jack Martin

Would he be an upgrade on Homscbh? Seem similar sorts of players to me. Kieran Collins on a small sample size is a better player than Josh.

Lol, both valid posts. So you're saying I need to up the offer.

 

[Tom14]

Lol, both valid posts. So you're saying I need to up the offer.

Suns probably aren't the team to offer a key defender to unfortunately. If walker goes I'd be trying to get something decent from the dogs who should be desperate for more key defenders.

 

[M Malice]

Suns probably aren't the team to offer a key defender to unfortunately. If walker goes I'd be trying to get something decent from the dogs who should be desperate for more key defenders.

Bontempelli it is then.

 

[Viceregal]

Bontempelli it is then.

Instinctive reaction: kind of a combo wince/cringe/do we *have* to
A few seconds later: I am sure that the normal character altering affect of the right jumper would work its magic on him as well...

 

[BangyBangy]

Suns probably aren't the team to offer a key defender to unfortunately. If walker goes I'd be trying to get something decent from the dogs who should be desperate for more key defenders.

You don't think they might be a little hesitant to trade with us after the Schache & Sherman trades?

 

[M Malice]

Instinctive reaction: kind of a combo wince/cringe/do we *have* to
A few seconds later: I am sure that the normal character altering affect of the right jumper would work its magic on him as well...

They got Schache from us for a steal, surely they should now return the favor and take unders for The Bont.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

Nice as Martin would be, he probably costs a first and a second. I think we can do better for that currency.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

You don't think they might be a little hesitant to trade with us after the Schache & Sherman trades?

We gave them more than fair value for Adams, and gave them Schache for a song, so yes.

 

[Tom14]

Nice as Martin would be, he probably costs a first and a second. I think we can do better for that currency.

Nah, he's not worth a first and a second when he is out of contract. I can't see him staying in Queensland if he leaves though - it will be VIC or WA.

 

[BangyBangy]

Nice as Martin would be, he probably costs a first and a second. I think we can do better for that currency.

If Martin is worth a first & second they got the trade for Lyons very wrong lol.

 

[Johnny Bananas]

If Martin is worth a first & second they got the trade for Lyons very wrong lol.

The price most agree is fair on DTFA is about pick 10 or so. Collingwood's pick probably ends up 15-18 so I'm estimating a pick in the 30s would need to be added to get to pick 10 value.

 

[Tom14]

The price most agree is fair on DTFA is about pick 10 or so. Collingwood's pick probably ends up 15-18 so I'm estimating a pick in the 30s would need to be added to get to pick 10 value.

I'd walk away. Martin has incredible talent but he has never shown the consistency required to be worth a top 10 pick in a trade and he is 24 now - can't just rely on potential. I think 15-18 is probably about right actually.

Stringer went for 25 and 30 and was a far better performed player, though that trade was mainly just the dogs wanting to get rid of him so its probably a reasonably cheap one.