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This is the handout SBS staff are being provided in case they are raided by the AFP in their homes.
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I think the news cycle will move on.
Labor doesn't have to do any more on this. They rattled Dutton's cage, ScoMo looked like he hadn't a clue (I think he desperately wanted to say - "How good is the .... AFP", but was advised against it in the end, and Ita did a sterling job.
Anyway, tomorrow's a long weekend, nobody can be bothered for 3 days.
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It's hard to know what it is going through the minds of the handful of people defending this.
But one thing we can all be certain about.... Had Labor won the recent election and this raid had taken place, those same posters (plus some others who have remained curiously silent on the issue) would be in this thread screaming how voting for the ALP is essentially voting for a socialist dictatorship.
But one thing we can all be certain about.... Had Labor won the recent election and this raid had taken place, those same posters (plus some others who have remained curiously silent on the issue) would be in this thread screaming how voting for the ALP is essentially voting for a socialist dictatorship.
If you take Clive seriously you need help.
Labor would not have instructed the AFP to do the raid in the first place.
Well it's clear, the AFP really are just the LNPs jackboot now.
Australian federal police drop investigation into media leak over medevac bill
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Yep. They'll side with their rich Anglo brothers (Liberals) over ethnics and LGBT et al (Labor). Who's News Corp and 2GB aimed their crap at since 2001 (at least)?
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Who said he was doing it for nothing? People don't become billionaires by being altruistic, nice, good, Democratic, generous, hard working, decent, friendly, law-abiding, non-corrupt, non-fraudulent, tax paying, and caring...
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See Medevac raids above, it will be to their detriment believing that having an LNP run AFP is to Labor's advantage. LNP are corrupt, and abuse their powers for personal benefit. I'm not sure too many political parties could beat that in a fair fight
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Condescending Liberal voters will say "Laybah needs to respect Australians, that's why they lost you know *smarmy grin*..." for 3 years while their party intentionally does this stuff. And if a Labor Prime Minister does a fraction of it in the future, then they'll go apeshit and suddenly care about democracy eroding.
It's frightening, since 2016, how many people go along with and even enjoy this stuff if they're on the winning side (or think they're on the winning side). With the original Nazis and communists long defeated and those who actually fought them gone, it's like we're at the start of another s**t cycle of history, the point where it gets shitter still.
There's a 'boomers vs younger than boomers' element to economic inequality at the moment. It'll be uglier when the boomers are gone and their kids and grandkids inherit the lot. Intragenerational replaces intergenerational. That's when violence becomes probable, if the ******* Liberal Party keep governing
It's frightening, since 2016, how many people go along with and even enjoy this stuff if they're on the winning side (or think they're on the winning side). With the original Nazis and communists long defeated and those who actually fought them gone, it's like we're at the start of another s**t cycle of history, the point where it gets shitter still.
There's a 'boomers vs younger than boomers' element to economic inequality at the moment. It'll be uglier when the boomers are gone and their kids and grandkids inherit the lot. Intragenerational replaces intergenerational. That's when violence becomes probable, if the ******* Liberal Party keep governing
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I'm afraid I think you are right, the patterns repeat and people are both thoughtless and ignorant of history. There is certainly a rise in ultranationalism all over the world, with many countries heading toward a modern form of Fascism. Who are the antifascists going to be in the 21C? PRC and Russia are pretty close to fascist states despite their stated ideologies. Trump certainly has moved the US strongly in that direction and the Europeans have all sorts of nationalistic, racist, rightist parties springing up. It's Fascism Uber Alles.
It's OK here in Oz, we can be thankful we have the very stupid Mr Potatohead. When you think about it, it is not credible the minister did not know about the raid, even though he assures us he didn't. Goodness, why would the Minister be interested in a raid on it's national broadcaster???? I used to report figures to a state government department, and the Minister always wanted a heads up if they were going to look poor. Wanted them improved if possible, but that's another story.
Oh wow. Major embarrassment for Labor today with this Bevan Shields exclusive.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fed...ed-annika-smethurst-leak-20190608-p51vrs.html
Correspondence shows Labor demanded an investigation into classified Annika Smethurst leak
Labor demanded an investigation into the leaking of "highly classified national security information" to the journalist whose home was this week raided by the Australian Federal Police, in a revelation that could blunt the opposition's assault on the government over press freedom.
Correspondence obtained by The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age shows shadow attorney-general Mark Dreyfus wrote to Malcolm Turnbull in 2018 to urge the then prime minister to convene an investigation into how secret government documents were leaked to senior News Corp reporter Annika Smethurst.
"I am sure I do not need to emphasise with you the gravity of such a security breach," Mr Dreyfus wrote.
"The documents described in the media appear to be extremely sensitive and divulge information about one of Australia’s key security agencies.
"It is therefore incumbent on you to establish an investigation into how such sensitive information held by members of your government was able to find its way into the public domain.
"Ensuring this sort of breach cannot occur again is vital for securing the trust that Australians place in governments on matters of national security."
While Mr Dreyfus argued in his letter that the leak was a national security matter, he this week said Smethurst's April 2018 report did not threaten national security.
On Thursday, he told ABC radio: "What is it about Australia’s national security – this is the question the government has to answer – what is it about Australia’s national security that is so threatened by a public discussion of a proposal to allow the Australian Signals Directorate for the first time to spy on Australians?"
In a separate interview on the same day, he said: "I don’t accept that there is some national security reason there for not discussing it."
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fed...ed-annika-smethurst-leak-20190608-p51vrs.html
Correspondence shows Labor demanded an investigation into classified Annika Smethurst leak
Labor demanded an investigation into the leaking of "highly classified national security information" to the journalist whose home was this week raided by the Australian Federal Police, in a revelation that could blunt the opposition's assault on the government over press freedom.
Correspondence obtained by The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age shows shadow attorney-general Mark Dreyfus wrote to Malcolm Turnbull in 2018 to urge the then prime minister to convene an investigation into how secret government documents were leaked to senior News Corp reporter Annika Smethurst.
"I am sure I do not need to emphasise with you the gravity of such a security breach," Mr Dreyfus wrote.
"The documents described in the media appear to be extremely sensitive and divulge information about one of Australia’s key security agencies.
"It is therefore incumbent on you to establish an investigation into how such sensitive information held by members of your government was able to find its way into the public domain.
"Ensuring this sort of breach cannot occur again is vital for securing the trust that Australians place in governments on matters of national security."
While Mr Dreyfus argued in his letter that the leak was a national security matter, he this week said Smethurst's April 2018 report did not threaten national security.
On Thursday, he told ABC radio: "What is it about Australia’s national security – this is the question the government has to answer – what is it about Australia’s national security that is so threatened by a public discussion of a proposal to allow the Australian Signals Directorate for the first time to spy on Australians?"
In a separate interview on the same day, he said: "I don’t accept that there is some national security reason there for not discussing it."
Not just that, I wouldn't be surprised if they were surveilling more than a handful of Labor politicians. The raids on Conroy's office were super suss.
How did they know he had numbers pertaining to the constant shambles that is the NBN build.
Likewise, odd that the ABC dropped it's report into Adani the same day the LNP conducted their raids. The current round of anti-leak legislation should never have gone ahead and Labor were stupid in believing they could just inherit Dutton's super Ministry and do as they pleased. The LNP will always be more mendacious and willing to abuse power, it's such a self own not to recognise this.
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Just one aspect makes me smile about this......
Investigative journalists complaining about an investigation
Investigative journalists complaining about an investigation
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Labor requesting an investigation is very different to the AFP conducting raids.
And Shields is easily the worst journalist in Australia. Any grown man that takes as many selfies as he does needs to be put down.
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Have the courts ruled over the unlawful killings as yet?
Have the courts ruled over the “public interest”?
Only after these matters have been dealt with, should a political statement over the issues other than the matter is before the courts.
Further both issues warrant an appropriate review by the appropriate body separate to the executive arm of government. As both issues are as serious as they get.
My gut feel is the military issue is a real issue but the federal police issue has no malicious aspect. Time will tell.
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Labor need to put a bill forward to close the AFP after their allegations
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Shields is quite clearly a messenger boy. Worse than a stenographer.
During the raid, one of the ABC journos complained they couldn't get any work done.
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This whole thing has Dutton's fingerprints all over it.
Just more proof of how f***en stupid some banana benders are.
No state is bigger on US-style "freedom" than Queensland.
And yet they just voted Peter f***en Dutton back in with an increased majority.
Just more proof of how f***en stupid some banana benders are.
No state is bigger on US-style "freedom" than Queensland.
And yet they just voted Peter f***en Dutton back in with an increased majority.
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