catempire
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Shaky ground. Because if we hadn’t taken this path the alternative one doesn’t have us in this position now.
Roast Topping up on senior players was the wrong move
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How can you possibly still think that? Stanley and Danger are possibly our two most important players. Throw in the other 5 or 6 and we are seriously low on the ladder without them.
It's because people focus on the few misses. Every club has these whether recruiting from the draft or via free agency/trades. There have been a few shockers such as HMac and Clark. Now we look at S Selwood and Hendo, thinking "really?". The former was an iffy selection I think we can agree on, but the latter at the time was sensible. We didn't know Taylor would have such longevity or Blicavs would move to the defence and becoming an AA key backman. Then guys like Henry have been surprise packets. Hendo had a couple of good seasons but may be redundant now. So be it.
Danger speaks for himself but I don't believe the OP targeted him. Like you said, Stanley took time but eventually you would have to say was a big tick. Smith has been a let down, but he didn't cost a whole lot. Dahlhaus and Rohan were genius moves that have swung the argument if there ever was one. Jez can say it was made before them but as someone mentioned, without the "strategy" then we wouldn't have moved for them.
The current climate more than ever suggests a healthy balance is the best approach. It's boring, but it's true.
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This is a fair point.
Look, maybe I'm just a bit irritated that someone clearly bookmarked the thread for a "gotcha" moment.
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I'm going to give the benefit of the doubt and say the thread was refreshed to promote a new, mature discussion on the subject with the benefit of hindsight.
Any further debate will hopefully be just that. But yeah, BF is very prone to smugness, arrogance, mockery, and a desperate desire to prove a superiority of opinion. Base human traits really.
Don't take it personally. As always, you just have to sort through a lot of chaff to find the good stuff.
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Rivers was a win too
The Clark was a massive brain fart by the recruiting team, and it was based on lions connection
Hendo we overpaid - because we always do
It is interesting that the cats were really into crouch, and sando was the project leader
when he went to the crows he took the geelong blueprint and they beat us to the punch
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How is tuohy not a success? He was a 5 pick downgrade and smedts. We came away like bandits on that deal, and until this season did not miss a single game in our 22.
We got enough value out of smith too. At the time he was our number 1 ruck for a few seasons, when our ruck stocks were thin and we only payed a late pick for him.
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Correct.
Henderson was also clearly a success.
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Could have been worse, Bobby used to keep files of bookmarks just for bloody "told ya so" posts.
catempire
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I think it was my bump and I hadn’t bookmarked it, honest. I was actually searching for another “roast” when I stumbled on this.
But if you make threads like this you’ve got to be willing to suck it up when it goes wrong.
catempire
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Actually it’s the opposite. Just because some have gone wrong doesn’t mean the overall strategy wasn’t right.
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Bookmarked.
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BTW, see “Ken Hinkley Envy” thread for an example of where I have to suck it up each time it’s bumped.
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Haha, this would be one for me. I haven't read through it but I'm sure I'd be the main one roasting the club.
Dollhouse and Rohan have tackled me into oblivion.
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This "topping up" term doesn't ring true with me.
When you have limited access to the best players in the draft (because of finishing higher up the ladder so often) what options do you have?
Topping up suggests you are simple adding some cream to the already full pudding.
In fact, it just makes sense to get the best players you can with the resources you have.
It hasn't worked for all trades, but you can say exactly the same thing for drafting young players.
When you have limited access to the best players in the draft (because of finishing higher up the ladder so often) what options do you have?
Topping up suggests you are simple adding some cream to the already full pudding.
In fact, it just makes sense to get the best players you can with the resources you have.
It hasn't worked for all trades, but you can say exactly the same thing for drafting young players.
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Brb, bumping Ken Hinkley Envy thread.
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We all have our clangers....
*reminds self to go and delete all Cam Eardley will make it references*
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I wouldn’t even describe this one as a clanger iameviljez. It wasn’t a shocker of a position to take, even if I didn’t agree. And as someone said above, the bump was more to promote discussion as I thought it was interesting to revisit than trying to rub your nose in it.
How do we feel about the club's approach as we head into another precarious off season.
The last two years have been full on in regards to topping up. Steven, Jenkins, Higgins, Smith and Cameron.
Does the club choose to go again and top up during the 2021 draft or do we finally look to the future and start building?
The last two years have been full on in regards to topping up. Steven, Jenkins, Higgins, Smith and Cameron.
Does the club choose to go again and top up during the 2021 draft or do we finally look to the future and start building?
The three years before that were even worse.
touhy, rohan, dalhaus, ablett, dangerfield, z.smith, henderson, s.selwood.
The calls to rebuild are now deafening. I’d be shocked if we now traded for any mature players for a few years now.
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Only took at least 6 years for the club to realise , however don’t be surprised if they hold it off for another year
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