List Mgmt. 2019 Draft Thread

[ScrappyDo]

Why would Greene cost 2 first rounders at the draft with him being academy? Ami missing something?

Coz so far he's rated top 3. If gws are forced to bid on him within that range it will suck their 2 top picks dry of points. It would be advantageous for other clubs to force them into it, even to call him at p1.
But if they have p4/5 then he'll likely slide to that point, they'll get the next best kid then snaffle Green with their later picks. Or they'll minimize the damage if he's bid on in the top 3. It's a win win for them.

 

[ScrappyDo]

I’ve got more trust in those 2 than whoever we pick at pick 5 in the draft. I doubt GWS do it though.

How bout p5 and a fr2 swap for Cauldwell and Essendons pick 10/11?

 

[Diehard Saint]

https://www.saints.com.au/news/2019-06-11/four-faces-you-havent-seen

Doulton Langlands gets a good rap on here.
Is he the forgotten Saint at the moment?
Anyone seen him play? Not sure if it’s just Saints’ hype, or there’s something to it.

 

[VDS66]

What's with the circle jerk about Bonar?

Because one poster goes on about him.

 

[triggering bro]

How bout p5 and a fr2 swap for Cauldwell and Essendons pick 10/11?

Deal

 

[bird_man]

What's with the circle jerk about Bonar?

Because one poster goes on about him.

I think it makes sense chasing those types. Plenty of potenti but can't crack the senior side. May look for more opportunity and might not cost the world due to him mostly playing NEAFL. Similar to how we got Steele.

 

[pebblesofsand]

A couple of more good games and I can see a place on the wing for Dingley. Better option than Phillips I reckon.

Hamill talked him up after he went into the midfield recently to replace Armo.

Contested ball winner who has some real pace - jeez don't we need that.

 

[hangdog]

It's been amazing that draft Rozee, Duursma, Tarryn Thomas, Butters, Jack Ross, Jordan Clark, Matty Parker and there are a half dozen guys that look like they should be guns yet to debut.

Hately too

 

[gringo2011]

Coz so far he's rated top 3. If gws are forced to bid on him within that range it will suck their 2 top picks dry of points. It would be advantageous for other clubs to force them into it, even to call him at p1.
But if they have p4/5 then he'll likely slide to that point, they'll get the next best kid then snaffle Green with their later picks. Or they'll minimize the damage if he's bid on in the top 3. It's a win win for them.

I still don't get it. Don't they only have to use their next available pick so even if they win the Premiership and get pick 18 they can use that even if he's bid on at 1 or 2. I'm no expert but that's what I thought was the way they do it. If they don't have a first round pick they can make it up with points so a second and third maybe as an example.

 

[ScrappyDo]

I still don't get it. Don't they only have to use their next available pick so even if they win the Premiership and get pick 18 they can use that even if he's bid on at 1 or 2. I'm no expert but that's what I thought was the way they do it. If they don't have a first round pick they can make it up with points so a second and third maybe as an example.

Their first pick is Methondon's. Their p18 will become a 4th round if they have to match a high bid. I thought...

 

[saintbatty]

I still don't get it. Don't they only have to use their next available pick so even if they win the Premiership and get pick 18 they can use that even if he's bid on at 1 or 2. I'm no expert but that's what I thought was the way they do it. If they don't have a first round pick they can make it up with points so a second and third maybe as an example.

Let's say they have pick 11 (Essendon's) and pick 18.

Green gets bid on at pick 3, which they can match with 1787 points (2234 minus discount). Pick 11 is 1329 points, so it disappears. Pick 18 is is 985 points, so they have 527 points left. So pick 18 turns into pick 35.

So an early bid for Green would destroy GWS's two first rounders, hence why they would be keen to get into the top 5.

*edited, used wrong points*

 

[VDS66]

I think it makes sense chasing those types. Plenty of potenti but can't crack the senior side. May look for more opportunity and might not cost the world due to him mostly playing NEAFL. Similar to how we got Steele.

If he's as highly rated at GWS they wont let him go IMO.

If they do, you'd have to question our interest if any.

 

[bird_man]

If he's as highly rated at GWS they wont let him go IMO.

If they do, you'd have to question our interest if any.

Possibly. But the cap will be busting at the seems if Conglio signs. Bonar's contract goes up next year and he decides he wants to leave for more opportunity (and more money) than I wouldn't rule it out.

 

[gringo2011]

Let's say they have pick 11 (Essendon's) and pick 18.

Green gets bid on at pick 3, which they can match with 1787 points (2234 minus discount). Pick 11 is 1329 points, so it disappears. Pick 18 is is 985 points, so they have 527 points left. So pick 18 turns into pick 35.

So an early bid for Green would destroy GWS's two first rounders, hence why they would be keen to get into the top 5.

*edited, used wrong points*

I thought that points was only if you didn't have a first round pick you could still get a higher rated player from other rounds by making up points?

 

[saintbatty]

I thought that points was only if you didn't have a first round pick you could still get a higher rated player from other rounds by making up points?

You have to match the bid with the points available from your actual picks. So in the example, it costs pick 11 and 18 (replaced with 35) to match pick 3 (with a discount).

 

[VDS66]

Possibly. But the cap will be busting at the seems if Conglio signs. Bonar's contract goes up next year and he decides he wants to leave for more opportunity (and more money) than I wouldn't rule it out.

Is he any good?

Or are we convincing ourselves to chase him?

 

[bird_man]

Is he any good?

Or are we convincing ourselves to chase him?

I thought he looked very good in the senior games I watched of him last year.

Sounds like he's been playing pretty well in the NEAFL but can't quite crack it.

 

[Sab22]

Draft year highlights

 

[Winmar2Lockett]

https://www.saints.com.au/news/2019-06-11/four-faces-you-havent-seen

Doulton Langlands gets a good rap on here.
Is he the forgotten Saint at the moment?
Anyone seen him play? Not sure if it’s just Saints’ hype, or there’s something to it.

I saw most of the 2nd half at Coburg. Really liked the look of Doulton.

Hope he gets an opportunity before the season is out... has size, pace and uses the pill nicely.

 

[saintbatty]

I saw most of the 2nd half at Coburg. Really liked the look of Doulton.

Hope he gets an opportunity before the season is out... has size, pace and uses the pill nicely.

Steele's spot just opened up

 

[joop]

I saw most of the 2nd half at Coburg. Really liked the look of Doulton.

Hope he gets an opportunity before the season is out... has size, pace and uses the pill nicely.

Bugger, one of richos most hated traits.

 

[Diehard Saint]

Steele's spot just opened up

Bloody hell.
What did we do to deserve this? Time to throw in Langlands.

 

[pebblesofsand]

I saw most of the 2nd half at Coburg. Really liked the look of Doulton.

Hope he gets an opportunity before the season is out... has size, pace and uses the pill nicely.

One of his problems is that he is a bit like Hind - runs so hard that disposal is a bit of a rerratic. Needed to steady before he kicked.

Had read somewhere that it was something Dingley had been working on and had improved a fair bit.

Will be surprised if he's named tonight but I'd expect he will get a run shortly.

 

[hayes]

Isn’t he only averaging 16 touches a game? He’s miles off AFL football if so.

 

[Sab22]

Isn’t he only averaging 16 touches a game? He’s miles off AFL football if so.

Long or Young barely got above 15 when they were stuck in VFL