The clear-out of Australian political issues

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Well geez, think I may have had a point?

No.

 

[Juddism]

this thread is absolutely pointless...

Speaking of mines..the one proposed next door to adani has been put on permanent hold, costing thousands of jobs.

Might be time for QLD folk to quit relying on mining and diversify.

 

[GoldenSky]

this thread is absolutely pointless...

Speaking of mines..the one proposed next door to adani has been put on permanent hold, costing thousands of jobs.

Might be time for QLD folk to quit relying on mining and diversify.

Pointless, yeah sure. You only have the new Labor leader coming out and saying practically everything is up for review and discussion, but yeah, as you were.

As for other Queensland coal mines - cool. If they can't get up, they can't get up. What shouldn't happen is that something that is viable is stopped because of teenagers protesting during school hours in Mosman.

 

[NSWCROW]

Of the 6 million different thing righties manage to froth at the mouth over , schoolkids is the softest

 

[Crankyhawk]

The election result has given Australia a massive breather from so many annoying political tropes, cliches and radical left agendas.

No more republic talk.

No more Indigenous third chamber of Parliament talk.

No more "saving Medicare" talk.

No more Adani BS that most Australians can't understand.

No more "no climate change action from the Libs" talk.

No more "not enough Lib women" talk.

Bliss.

All confected issues formulated in the Canberra bubble by snobby and pretentious journos that have no idea about middle Australia.

So, my question to all - what ARE the issues that will come to define the next period in Australian politics?

This will also depend on who Labor elects as their leader, but what will they campaign on?

There still is that First Nations referendum talk going on, hope that is all it stays at.

On topic my guess will be economy, wealth inequality, generational divides between haves and have nots.

 

[Crankyhawk]

What do you mean? Social media doesn’t make predictions. Facebook as an entity doesn’t predict the outcome of an election.

I think you are confusing journalists on social media with social media.

Journalists too lazy to do own research and just used social media which confirmed their own opinions as to what was likely

 

[Kwality]

Journalists too lazy to do own research and just used social media which confirmed their own opinions as to what was likely

Spot on, heard Raf Epstein on the ABC radio coverage just after voting closed on the east coast & he was on about One Nation suggesting Pauline Hanson hadnt been see all day & that he'd put a call out on twitter for anyone who had seen her, but was yet to receive a reply - this bloke spent some time at Fairfax working with Messrs Baker & McKenzie, no wonder he was back with Aunty quick smart.

Not sure what the ABCs Gavan Morris revelation about politicising the news coverage of everything will have, but it'd be good if the reporting of the issues was foremost not the political point scoring:
https://www.crikey.com.au/2019/06/12/tips-and-rumours-gaven-morris-abc-news-politics/

 

[hanma]

State of Aussie politics is dire.
https://thewhiterosesociety.writeas.com/

When we have politicians like Bob Katter aligning himself with Nazis and Albo having a bromance with him.

 

[Kwality]

Interesting link you've got there, new one on me:

'thewhiterosesociety
Anti-fascist researchers in so-called Australia'


NO THANKS

 

[hanma]

This is bob Katter with Blair Cottrell and Tom Sewell.

Got anything else smarty pants or should we talk about Fraser Anning to refresh your memory?

 

[Brunswick Trap King]

State of Aussie politics is dire.
https://thewhiterosesociety.writeas.com/

When we have politicians like Bob Katter aligning himself with Nazis and Albo having a bromance with him.

Good read. Thanks for the link!

 

[Power Raid]

Adani will be a huge issue if it gets the go ahead...not sure why people think it will be a jobs bonanza? Adani has stated that it plans to run the mine with the least amount of employees possible, actually, they stayed it'll be fully automated.

People thinking they're going to employ 10,000 people are ******* nuts.

When they say fully automated, what do you think that actually means?

A fully automated truck might mean no FIFO truck driver but it still requires operators in the control centre, maintenance crews, communications and specialist IT (hacking is a massive risk).

How many jobs do you think a $30b per annum project deliver (the entire basin)? Between direct and indirect jobs, I’d suggest 10,0000 was a minimum

 

[Gough]

Adani bloke under oath said it was around 1600 and seeing as lying to their Honour has consequences that lying to the general public doesn't, I'd say that's probably closer to the truth.

 

[Power Raid]

Adani bloke under oath said it was around 1600 and seeing as lying to their Honour has consequences that lying to the general public doesn't, I'd say that's probably closer to the truth.

There is a big difference between one mine vs the actual project representing a doubling of Australia’s coal exports

$30b/1,600 doesn’t quite make sense does it?

 

[Gough]

There is a big difference between one mine vs the actual project representing a doubling of Australia’s coal exports

$30b/1,600 doesn’t quite make sense does it?

It's on the record. You think the Adani bloke was perjuring himself?

 

[Power Raid]

It's on the record. You think the Adani bloke was perjuring himself?

As presented in my post the Adani mine is just one small part of the basin which represents $30b per annum


If $30b translates to just 1,600 jobs, then well done to those guys earning that wage

 

[GoldenSky]

Adani bloke under oath said it was around 1600 and seeing as lying to their Honour has consequences that lying to the general public doesn't, I'd say that's probably closer to the truth.

So is 1600 jobs the only benefit of this massive mining operation? No other financial benefit to the Commonwealth or Queensland?

 

[go you pups]

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This is bob Katter with Blair Cottrell and Tom Sewell.

Got anything else smarty pants or should we talk about Fraser Anning to refresh your memory?

Has Big Bad Bustling Blair jumped from Frase's sinking ship and onto Bob's?

 

[Power Raid]

So is 1600 jobs the only benefit of this massive mining operation? No other financial benefit to the Commonwealth or Queensland?

yep

the total production for the basin is expected to be 300mT per annum. At $100 a ton, that's $30b per annum.

with a mining royalty rate of 7%, that's $2.1b per annum into the Queensland coffers.

add to that payroll tax of just under 5%, plus mining lease rents, PAYG etc


not to mention port infrastructure, rail, roads, power systems and an additional 2% to GDP

 

[GoldenSky]

yep

the total production for the basin is expected to be 300mT per annum. At $100 a ton, that's $30b per annum.

with a mining royalty rate of 7%, that's $2.1b per annum into the Queensland coffers.

add to that payroll tax of just under 5%, plus mining lease rents, PAYG etc


not to mention port infrastructure, rail, roads, power systems and an additional 2% to GDP

Exactly. These same old parrot lines about "it's automated! only 1600 jobs!" are those coming from people who hear nothing else apart from a long list of Labor politicians at present that know only to say "jobs! jobs! jobs!".

 

[Kwality]

There is a big difference between one mine vs the actual project representing a doubling of Australia’s coal exports

$30b/1,600 doesn’t quite make sense does it?

As we all know there is a construction phase for a mine involved lots of people followed by the production phase with a lesser no. involved full time.

Exactly. These same old parrot lines about "it's automated! only 1600 jobs!" are those coming from people who hear nothing else apart from a long list of Labor politicians at present that know only to say "jobs! jobs! jobs!".

This encapsulates the problem for those on the Left, simplistically environment versus jobs
&
its going to be Albo's equivalent of Abbot/Turnbull for Scomorro.

The inner city elites v the workers.

 

[Gough]

If Adani have lied about the employment benefits of the project which they have, repeatedly; what else have they fibbed about?

 

[Kwality]

If Adani have lied about the employment benefits of the project which they have, repeatedly; what else have they fibbed about?

They've been involved in a political process & half truths are the currency on all sides.

Will anyone ever ask WHY the Environment Department sat on their hands ?

 

[NSWCROW]

Exactly. These same old parrot lines about "it's automated! only 1600 jobs!" are those coming from people who hear nothing else apart from a long list of Labor politicians at present that know only to say "jobs! jobs! jobs!".

jobson groath ?

 

[GoldenSky]

jobson groath ?

Yeah he was one of your guys secretly. lol.