Victorian government bans school kids from using mobile phones

[Procrastinator35]

Good move.

 

[Scotland]

Be a lot easier if they just allowed mobile phones and banned school kids.

 

[Gralin]

Bingo. On one. I'll let you guess.

I've worked in all manner of environments and some it's impossible to get a phone out (gloves, too busy, etc) or you're just going to get a rep for being lazy.

I use my phone a ludicrous amount because I've been an internet abuser since about 14. ******* obsessed with the ****. So much information, so much to read. I love just going onto the same old websites and reading whatever article they've put up, there's always some soccer player from 2005 who pops into my head and where he's playing now... all this information, all this knowledge, all these pretty paintings, and all this nonsense on tap. If you're a quizzical mind, how can you not?

I think the education system is ****** and I think they're very backward. One day it's going to dawn on them how useless and impractical it's been for the last ten years. They'll be reactive – not proactive – and let's wait and see how that plays out. The WA Education Department would chop and change protocol and syllabus every year so let's wait and see how ****** it'll be when they go all out, proper wholesale changes.

I guess what I'm saying is I'm a byproduct of the phone and media and I also think it's ****** I am.

Jobe Watson is saying **** being told what to do when you're an adult and legally able to join in with all things that are great. By teachers. It's different when you're an employee. There's a natural dynamic. You have to suck that ****. But teachers? Why should you be degraded, humiliated, and talked down to when you've already made 99% of your learning and social skills (aka the purpose of the school)? Why do you have to eat that?

Even back when I was a kid, I'd see teachers texting and we weren't. This fat pommy teacher, who used to bully a mate of mine because his face was 'red' (his family was dirt poor and he was a noble, kind soul) would go off her nut at the blokes for texting and then do it herself.

If I'm not allowed to text as a student, why should you be able to on the job? You're supposed to be learning.

When you are at school they are responsible for you, when you are in a class that teacher is responsible.

You think being 18 and having to do what the teacher says is bad, you're going to adjust really well to a boss half your age when that comes around.

Anyone who thinks turning 18 puts them automatically in charge of all their decisions probably thinks lord of the flies sounded like Utopia

 

[PT Bar None]

We used to play Choplifter at lunchtime.

Between Skype, Slack, Teams, Email, Confluence, Jira, etc. work has got a bit weird with smartphones and notifications.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

This should be at the discretion of schools not the government.

And lol at it being a cyber bullying preventative measure. Are they going to ban them using Facebook etc at home as well?

Um, no. It’s a school’s responsibility at, you know, school.

That’s like saying the school and teachers should just allow students to beat the s**t out of each other in the classroom. I mean... it’ll just happen after school anyway, won’t it?

 

[NaturalDisaster]

Um, no. It’s a school’s responsibility at, you know, school.

That’s like saying the school and teachers should just allow students to beat the **** out of each other in the classroom. I mean... it’ll just happen after school anyway, won’t it?

I agree with you and you just completely missed my point.

 

[PP34]

Great idea I reckon. Phones were starting to become more and more prevalent towards the end of my schooling days. Our school was fairly harsh on use though so there was only minor use allowed for example when you were doing art work for your art portfolio you could listen to music.

Heard some stories from parents of kids more recently and some schools don’t give a s**t at all. Kids sitting there all day communicating via phone rather than talking to each other and no doubt plenty being distracted by texts, Snapchats etc.

Wouldn’t be so concerned about education issues to be honest. I’m sure at times distraction is an issue, but it’s also an issue with noisy kids, computers etc too. I think the social part is far more concerning. You spend each day with hundreds of kids you should be forced to socialise face to face like normal humans. I work in a supermarket part time and the kids getting jobs the last year or so seem to be awful at basic socialising. Unable to start and hold basic conversations, not greeting people etc. Maybe it’s just confirmation bias on my part but it seems like all the added screen time is starting to impact younger generations.

 

[Silent Alarm]

When you are at school they are responsible for you, when you are in a class that teacher is responsible.

You think being 18 and having to do what the teacher says is bad, you're going to adjust really well to a boss half your age when that comes around.

Anyone who thinks turning 18 puts them automatically in charge of all their decisions probably thinks lord of the flies sounded like Utopia

It's completely different.

I feel like Bigfooty is either full of ignorants or teacher's pets or you all went t the most amazing schools ever. Or, more likely, there's lots of parents of teachers here.

Lots of teachers got nasty, personal, and bullying toward children. Knew nothing: butchered spelling, couldn't tell you the difference between Northern Ireland and the Republic Of. It's pretty ****ed. Bosses are accountable to conduct and have to toe a line. Teachers get away with all sorts.

 

[Scotland]

By lots of teachers I assume you mean one or two at the school you went to?

 

[Gralin]

It's completely different.

I feel like Bigfooty is either full of ignorants or teacher's pets or you all went t the most amazing schools ever. Or, more likely, there's lots of parents of teachers here.

Lots of teachers got nasty, personal, and bullying toward children. Knew nothing: butchered spelling, couldn't tell you the difference between Northern Ireland and the Republic Of. It's pretty ******. Bosses are accountable to conduct and have to toe a line. Teachers get away with all sorts.

s**t teachers has nothing to do with your idea that 18 year old students shouldn't have to follow the rules.

You want to talk about ignorance, you act like all teachers are evil child destroyers and all managers are held to account and good guys, but go to a thread about work and you're bitching about work the same way as school.

 

[Cleavy]

they interviewed some kids on the news about the ban, one kid said "how am I supposed to look up my times tables?". Seriously?!?!

 

[Silent Alarm]

**** teachers has nothing to do with your idea that 18 year old students shouldn't have to follow the rules.

You want to talk about ignorance, you act like all teachers are evil child destroyers and all managers are held to account and good guys, but go to a thread about work and you're bitching about work the same way as school.

If you think I like managers...

Rules are made to be broken baby. Where's the anger? Has the angry young man in the back of the class, drawing in his pad, with untapped potential that'll never be realised, angry and jilted really gone? It probably has. I look through my school's year books and it's self-smug little shits. I look at ones from the 1980s and can see their highs and lows and the sadness and want in their eyes.

I'm going to make a call to the education department tomorrow and complain about the heinous s**t I saw.

 

[NaturalDisaster]

they interviewed some kids on the news about the ban, one kid said "how am I supposed to look up my times tables?". Seriously?!?!

Time tables are bullshit anyway

I never memorised them properly and yet I function well.

 

[Gralin]

If you think I like managers...

Rules are made to be broken baby. Where's the anger? Has the angry young man in the back of the class, drawing in his pad, with untapped potential that'll never be realised, angry and jilted really gone? It probably has. I look through my school's year books and it's self-smug little ****s. I look at ones from the 1980s and can see their highs and lows and the sadness and want in their eyes.

I'm going to make a call to the education department tomorrow and complain about the heinous **** I saw.

No i don't think you like managwrs but you act like they are held to a higher stndard than teachers and are made accountable for their actions while teachers are not.

Not really true is it

 

[Roobs321]

I went to rural public schools a couple hours from the nearest city, and my high school was in the most dodgy suburb of the entire region. I still felt my teachers were good quality (although I was an academic student from a solid family upbringing, so not as disadvantaged as some and fairly engaged with material). Most of my teachers were decent enough people, a few of them were even friends I used to surf with before they became my teacher.

*although one of my high school teachers ended up doing the naughty with a student years later and going to jail

 

[Silent Alarm]

No i don't think you like managwrs but you act like they are held to a higher stndard than teachers and are made accountable for their actions while teachers are not.

Not really true is it

Maybe it's changed – I've hoped – but 13-year olds are less tapped into things such as bullying than 30-year old office workers. One gets away with a lot more than the other.

Teachers are scum.

 

[Handsuper47]

Yeah instead of teaching students why it's a good idea to pay attention and not use your phone during class, let's just out-right ban it instead.. I'm sure the older kids in high school are gonna enjoy getting treated like idiots.. and what if someone around that age is expecting an urgent phone call?

 

[TubbsFarquhar]

Yeah instead of teaching students why it's a good idea to pay attention and not use your phone during class, let's just out-right ban it instead.. I'm sure the older kids in high school are gonna enjoy getting treated like idiots.. and what if someone around that age is expecting an urgent phone call?

Schools have had anti-phone policies in place for years. Why the government is intervening I have no idea but banning phones isn't exactly a new phenomenon. As for your second point, I remember when I was at school that parents would have to contact the front office who would then call the class the student was in to come over.

 

[JG22]

Sounds unbelievable

During recess and lunch too?

Won’t be policed

 

[craigos]

Do kids still play sport at recess and lunch? I've been hanging out near a few primary schools lately and whilst the kids still seem to enjoy sport, the same can't be said for the High Schools I've been studying.

 

[perthblue]

Do kids still play sport at recess and lunch? I've been hanging out near a few primary schools lately and whilst the kids still seem to enjoy sport, the same can't be said for the High Schools I've been studying.

high schoolers are too preoccupied with nursing their mdma comedown

 

[Gough]

high schoolers are too preoccupied with nursing their mdma comedown

We used to sit on the oval and smoke.

 

[perthblue]

We used to sit on the oval and smoke.

I smoked in high school too, not as relaxed as sitting on the oval, we had to hide behide the demountables. * I used to be cool. What happened man.

 

[ioppolo]

Do kids still play sport at recess and lunch? I've been hanging out near a few primary schools lately and whilst the kids still seem to enjoy sport, the same can't be said for the High Schools I've been studying.

Just hanging out near some primary schools hey?

 

[ioppolo]

Teenagers live and breathe their ******* phones and iPads these days. Parents let it happen too. Spineless, lazy parents like my mother in law. I had a flip phone at high school because that's what was around. Motorola's were still cool. Bluetooth was new-ish technology for phones. Sending each other music was the bomb. Smart phones just started to pop up around year 10 but only the rich (or in debt) parents gave their kids one. My favourite thing to do at lunch time was play basketball. Pretty much every lunchtime all year other than the days it pissed down.