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We just looked physically immature compared to them
They certainly did...….at times it looked men against boys.
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We just looked physically immature compared to them
We need our guys getting to the 100 game/ 5 season mark before their bodies mature . Their bodies will develop in time but we need a little patience, something most supporters are a little short on at present.They certainly did...….at times it looked men against boys.
Richmond/saintsThey certainly did...….at times it looked men against boys.
Twice Martin dropped the ball - wasn’t paid , then resulted in goals for them
Umpires absolutely favour Martin when he busts thru packs and drops the ball
This is the only vote breakdown I can come up with
Don't get the lack of love for Broooose. He scrambles hard competes hard and is often against two players. My knock on him is that he has hard hands.Find it amusing that by suggesting Bruce is poor I suddenly have no idea about football. Meanwhile people two weeks ago saying Clark is a bust. Surely we are all entitled to an opinion without being ridiculed? Maybe labelling him as 'lazy' wasn't the right word, but he plays without a lot of intensity and seems to me to make dumb decisions. His lead patterns are messy. If the kick to him isn't perfect he often gets outmarked. He gives away unnecessary free-kicks.
At the end of the day that's just my opinion and I really don't understand why a player like Bruce, one of our senior guys, is beyond reproach. End of the day he isn't losing his spot anytime soon because he's doing second ruck duties but I really hope he tries to improve as a player because we need him to be much better.
This is the only vote breakdown I can come up with
Coach 1
5 Stack
4 Martin
3 Prestia
2 Marshall
1 Ross
Coach 2
5 Chol
4 Stack
3 Martin
2 Marshall
1 Ross
Man , you sure put some mayo on that post , You didnt just suggest he was poor , you had a fair crack at him and yes he could play better but so could about another 15-16 players and he has hardly been our worst player .Find it amusing that by suggesting Bruce is poor I suddenly have no idea about football. Meanwhile people two weeks ago saying Clark is a bust. Surely we are all entitled to an opinion without being ridiculed? Maybe labelling him as 'lazy' wasn't the right word, but he plays without a lot of intensity and seems to me to make dumb decisions. His lead patterns are messy. If the kick to him isn't perfect he often gets outmarked. He gives away unnecessary free-kicks.
At the end of the day that's just my opinion and I really don't understand why a player like Bruce, one of our senior guys, is beyond reproach. End of the day he isn't losing his spot anytime soon because he's doing second ruck duties but I really hope he tries to improve as a player because we need him to be much better.
To me this sums up why our pressure at all cost game plan does not work. The AFL want the game to be quick and free flowing which means that in recent years HTB has been ignored more and more often. Pressure only works when you have the correct structure forward of the ball and you force a mis-kick that you can intercept. You then need the the structure and skills to rebound quickly and create the shot at goal.
Manic two or three on one tackling is a losing game because you will only get maybe 1 in 4 incorrect disposals paid. When it does come loose the opposition have spare players to take the ball away.
It's not just Martin who gets favoured, it's every player in the league and it is a directive from HQ for a fast game. Martin is just one of the best exponents of it.
If Richo really put Chol above Marshall he should be sacked immediately
"Surely we are all entitled to an opinion without being ridiculed?"Find it amusing that by suggesting Bruce is poor I suddenly have no idea about football. Meanwhile people two weeks ago saying Clark is a bust. Surely we are all entitled to an opinion without being ridiculed? Maybe labelling him as 'lazy' wasn't the right word, but he plays without a lot of intensity and seems to me to make dumb decisions. His lead patterns are messy. If the kick to him isn't perfect he often gets outmarked. He gives away unnecessary free-kicks.
At the end of the day that's just my opinion and I really don't understand why a player like Bruce, one of our senior guys, is beyond reproach. End of the day he isn't losing his spot anytime soon because he's doing second ruck duties but I really hope he tries to improve as a player because we need him to be much better.
Don't get the lack of love for Broooose. He scrambles hard competes hard and is often against two players. My knock on him is that he has hard hands.
Watch him next time the ball bounces out from his grasp quite often. He would be aware of that and that needs addressing.
His endeavour however does not. Times he can be too desperate to get it and go and misses the outlet handball...happened a few times on Sunday.
Still is the one who looks most likely to take a pack mark from a stationary to stationary set up play. Membrey needs movement and is much more reliable than Bruce in that instance.
Marshall on the wing in a mobile pack marking sutuation is okay but not seen him take many pack marks inside 50.
Quick ball movement does not allow defenders to set up. Tall players are then at a real advantage if the ball can be kicked into space where height and reach are an advantage.
What are you on about? My post wasn't moderated. I said Bruce was lazy yes, I'm not saying he's a bad person in fact I'm sure he's a bloody legend. But he needs to work harder as a footballer in my opinion. Heard players called a lot worse on here so I don't know why you have such a cry just because it's Bruce. As for this 'the security of anonymity' nonsense, this is anonymous forum where we discuss football isn't it? Or do I need to give out my name and number anytime I criticise a player?"Surely we are all entitled to an opinion without being ridiculed?"
A bit rich coming from poster who feels free to ridicule Bruce from the security of anonymity.
You know you said much more than "Bruce was lazy" - guess that's why your post was moderated.
Disagree on Bruce but I'll back you on the rest of that post.What are you on about? My post wasn't moderated. I said Bruce was lazy yes, I'm not saying he's a bad person in fact I'm sure he's a bloody legend. But he needs to work harder as a footballer in my opinion. Heard players called a lot worse on here so I don't know why you have such a cry just because it's Bruce. As for this 'the security of anonymity' nonsense, this is anonymous forum where we discuss football isn't it? Or do I need to give out my name and number anytime I criticise a player?
Could do worse than emulate Rob Harvey the master of the 25 metre pass
Gresh looks like he’s trying to kick the skin off the ball
This is spot on. I reckon we have some quality players on our list, but we seem to try not to make errors rather that be agressive with the ball. Guys like Billings, Sinclair, Clark, Coff should not be just kicking down the line unless absolutely necessary. We need to be more damaging with ball in hand. We were in the 1st half, but went into our shell in the 2nd i reckon and tried not to lose, rather than tried to win
When did Lenny Hayes retire? 8-9 years ago? I cant believe an entire football club in that time has not been able to draft, develop or trade in have one All Australian standard midfielder over that time? How can that level of incompetence be perpetuated over and over again over that period of time?
We now have Hannebrey but will he ever get to All Australian levels again?
What are you on about? My post wasn't moderated. I said Bruce was lazy yes, I'm not saying he's a bad person in fact I'm sure he's a bloody legend. But he needs to work harder as a footballer in my opinion. Heard players called a lot worse on here so I don't know why you have such a cry just because it's Bruce. As for this 'the security of anonymity' nonsense, this is anonymous forum where we discuss football isn't it? Or do I need to give out my name and number anytime I criticise a player?