Mega Thread The Father-Son Mega thread - 2019

[Glebehawk]

Anyone think mcguiness is gonna struggle?
Seems like a man playing against boys at at the moment

Reminds me of our last good F/S J.Kennedy.
Looks a very handy addition.

 

[Bugs1977]

Hawthorn tipped to swoop for father-son prospect

"He’s really improved as the year has gone on."

www.sen.com.au

 

[beta_condition]

Callum Twomey has Finn going pick 17 normally pretty spot on with the draft order.

 

[RIOLINWITPUNCHS]

Anyone think mcguiness is gonna struggle?
Seems like a man playing against boys at at the moment

Yes he will struggle big time.

He is a man amongst boys.

He is also a flight risk.

Skin folds a concern.

Cannot handball on opposite side.

Not damaging enough.

His numbers are a statistical lie.

Will leave footy after 2 years to take up break dancing at the next Olympic games.

Now someone go write an article about all that.

 

[Agent Smith]

Yes he will struggle big time.

He is a man amongst boys.

He is also a flight risk.

Skin folds a concern.

Cannot handball on opposite side.

Not damaging enough.

His numbers are a statistical lie.

Will leave footy after 2 years to take up break dancing at the next Olympic games.

Now someone go write an article about all that.

Brendon Goddard, come on down.

 

[tommyk72]

Yes he will struggle big time.

He is a man amongst boys.

He is also a flight risk.

Skin folds a concern.

Cannot handball on opposite side.

Not damaging enough.

His numbers are a statistical lie.

Will leave footy after 2 years to take up break dancing at the next Olympic games.

Now someone go write an article about all that.

Injury-plagued as well, yeah?

Doesn't listen to coaches instructions.

I've heard people have seen him turn up to a match finishing off a beer. Clearly not professional enough to cut it.

 

[tommyk72]

Callum Twomey has Finn going pick 17 normally pretty spot on with the draft order.

The quote in the article says in the article 20-25 range? Has that changed sine he interviewed for this?

 

[4THAWN]

The quote in the article says in the article 20-25 range? Has that changed sine he interviewed for this?

he put a phantom draft out today, Finn's at 17 on it.

 

[MrPremiership]

he put a phantom draft out today, Finn's at 17 on it.

The FoxFooty phantom draft doesn't have him in the top 20.

 

[4THAWN]

The FoxFooty phantom draft doesn't have him in the top 20.

Cal Twomey's 2019 Phantom Form Guide: Post U18 Champs

AFL.com.au's draft guru ranks the young talent in the wake of the U18 Champs

www.afl.com.au

17 on twomeys

AFL 2019 draft board power rankings: Top 20 prospects after 2018 Under 18 national carnival

AFL draft rankings: Pick 1 chance’s perfect carnival, Giant conundrum

www.foxsports.com.au

Finn not in the 20, not "on the cusp", yet they have 4 other vic metro players rated as "on the cusp".

Rowell, Anderson, Young, Serong, Ash, Green are agreed upon as top 6 picks.

Fox has Flanders at 7, Twomey has him at 10.

Fox has Trent Bianco at 12, Twomey doesn't have him at all in his phantom draft.

Fox has Worrell at 19, Twomey has him at 11.

Finn not even "on the cusp" according to Fox. Twomey rates at 17.

Fox doesn't have Elijah Taylor "on the cusp", Twomey has him at 15.

Fox has Luke Jackson at 13, he's 21 according to Twomey.

Fox has Will Day at 18, Twomey has him at 25.

These two phantom drafts have extremely similar opinions of the top-end talent, but quite differing opinions of the middle-later first rounders and onwards.

 

[Toasted]

Cal Twomey's 2019 Phantom Form Guide: Post U18 Champs

AFL.com.au's draft guru ranks the young talent in the wake of the U18 Champs

www.afl.com.au

17 on twomeys

AFL 2019 draft board power rankings: Top 20 prospects after 2018 Under 18 national carnival

AFL draft rankings: Pick 1 chance’s perfect carnival, Giant conundrum

www.foxsports.com.au

Finn not in the 20, not "on the cusp", yet they have 4 other vic metro players rated as "on the cusp".

Rowell, Anderson, Young, Serong, Ash, Green are agreed upon as top 6 picks.

Fox has Flanders at 7, Twomey has him at 10.

Fox has Trent Bianco at 12, Twomey doesn't have him at all in his phantom draft.

Fox has Worrell at 19, Twomey has him at 11.

Finn not even "on the cusp" according to Fox. Twomey rates at 17.

Fox doesn't have Elijah Taylor "on the cusp", Twomey has him at 15.

Fox has Luke Jackson at 13, he's 21 according to Twomey.

Fox has Will Day at 18, Twomey has him at 25.

These two phantom drafts have extremely similar opinions of the top-end talent, but quite differing opinions of the middle-later first rounders and onwards.

I rate Cal. Seems to be pretty close to the mark

 

[Glebehawk]

I haven’t seen a huge amount besides the recent games, but can’t see why Serong is 3. He looks solid, but I didn’t spot anything special. I know I’m working from a small sample, but Kemp and Ash seem to have much more X factor.

 

[PhatHQ]

. .. we need 2 top 10 picks & Finn.
We currently are have 1 top 5 pick & enough to get Fin regardless... trades pending.
Wherever Finn ends up we need another pick... hypo it yourself. I know what I’d be doibgy

 

[Agent Smith]

I was about to start a major media blitz called 'We're a goer for Noah' until we did the unthinkable and won last night. Stupid Hawthorn.

 

[Slick]

Had another decent game for Sandy yesterday, by all reports.

 

[tommyk72]

Had another decent game for Sandy yesterday, by all reports.

Finn?

 

[MrPremiership]

Had another decent game for Sandy yesterday, by all reports.

Finn?

Sandy lost to Western Jets 79-70

Finn was in the top 3 for Sandy, having 24 disposals, 1 goal, 8 tackles.

Going nicely.

 

[Brishawk]

Sandy lost to Western Jets 79-70

Finn was in the top 3 for Sandy, having 24 disposals, 1 goal, 8 tackles.

Going nicely.

He certainly puts out some impressive numbers. Can’t wait to see him play for the brown and gold

 

[smeltitdeltit]

The way he is progressing you just pick him, and maybe learn what the Swans did last year to get Blakey

Has that been outlawed?
Should have been.
Recall whately asking Hocking if it was above board, he answered “yep”
Then asked if it would be allowed this year, and Hocking wasn’t so sure

 

[Beandip]

I've heard people have seen him turn up to a match finishing off a beer.

I'd be more impressed if they'd seen him cracking open a beer at quarter-time!

 

[bumsonseats]

Has that been outlawed?
Should have been.
Recall whately asking Hocking if it was above board, he answered “yep”
Then asked if it would be allowed this year, and Hocking wasn’t so sure

Andrew McKay has been tasked to review the Academies and NGA’s.
By extension this means the drafting rules also

AFL reviewing northern and multicultural academies

The AFL is reviewing the northern states and multicultural academies that have been the source of club squabbling.

www.theage.com.au

The Swans certainly know how to screw the pooch

 

[Brishawk]

Andrew McKay has been tasked to review the Academies and NGA’s.
By extension this means the drafting rules also

AFL reviewing northern and multicultural academies

The AFL is reviewing the northern states and multicultural academies that have been the source of club squabbling.

www.theage.com.au

The Swans certainly know how to screw the pooch

Honestly think everyone would be better off if we scrapped all the academies entirely. They aren’t about developing talent. They are about propping up specific clubs. That other clubs have occasional access to high end talent via the multicultural academies is exposing how distorting they are. Given how relatively easy it is for players to move clubs there is no reason clubs can’t eventuakly recruit talent from their home state.

 

[smeltitdeltit]

Andrew McKay has been tasked to review the Academies and NGA’s.
By extension this means the drafting rules also

AFL reviewing northern and multicultural academies

The AFL is reviewing the northern states and multicultural academies that have been the source of club squabbling.

www.theage.com.au

The Swans certainly know how to screw the pooch

Yeah that was super dodgy.

Still, they played the game and good on them I guess, but shame on the AFL for being so damn amateur that they didn’t see that coming.

 

[bumsonseats]

Honestly think everyone would be better off if we scrapped all the academies entirely. They aren’t about developing talent. They are about propping up specific clubs. That other clubs have occasional access to high end talent via the multicultural academies is exposing how distorting they are. Given how relatively easy it is for players to move clubs there is no reason clubs can’t eventuakly recruit talent from their home state.

The academies are like welfare. Once you give people something it is very difficult to take it away. Can you imagine the outcry from the Selena’s if the academies were stripped.

I think the academies should be included in the football dept cap. Still being used to develop players.....no different fm employing a development coach

 

[flinchfree]

The academies are like welfare. Once you give people something it is very difficult to take it away. Can you imagine the outcry from the Selena’s if the academies were stripped.

I think the academies should be included in the football dept cap. Still being used to develop players.....no different fm employing a development coach

That's one bum analogy.
The other goes: Welfare is there to help people when they need it, when not everything has worked out as we'd hope, and rather than have groups just sit on the curb as the more able and highly credentialed and better connected stroll by to happiness and success in life, we give them a little giddyup to continue the fight.
Talking about social security there......if you're moaning about health care being welfare with a wah wah then you're beyond saving.

Academies were created to do the same thing.
There ISN'T money, time, coaching, ability to travel to high level training/playing opportunities, support from community and often family, and other myriad additives that help nurture the growth of athletic potential in all our outer reaches of Australia. That means, if you're unaware, that loads of kids go by in life without having the real opportunity to fulfill their inner potential. The idea of Academies is to draw more young talent into elite training and see what can blossom.
Without them, all kids just live where they are, hope some scout likes them on a visit to the area (crap for them if they have a down weekend in form..), and play out their unlikely lot.
When clubs are given this incentive to perhaps have a slight betterment of chance of bringing in one of their own fliers, they pour more money time and interest in giving the process a tonne of real investment.

If all clubs just waited until the carnival each year to mark their top 20, and only looked at the top tier under agers, it'd be a shitty too bad so sad call to the dreams and aspirations that ALL kids should be encouraged to have.

I hope they keep all of it, improve on all of it, and not be smeared with trite politico social labels.