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If we have to run this thread on the basis of Ken still being here it’ll get so much uglierBefore we start releasing KPFs, can we try bringing people into the club who are capable of developing them?
I'm hoping Ken (and Bass) are no longer a chain around the club's neck next year. If they stay for a few more years then yes, Marshall's career is f**ked. Same goes for Luko though if he comes here to develop under those two.If we have to run this thread on the basis of Ken still being here it’ll get so much uglier
I'm hoping Ken (and Bass) are no longer a chain around the club's neck next year. If they stay for a few more years then yes, Marshall's career is f**ked. Same goes for Luko though if he comes here to develop under those two.
What would that cost us in terms of draft picks.Luko keen on coming home is legit. Balls in our court. Make it happen Portz
I’m not sure we have the picks.It would cost a lot.
It would cost a lot.
There's a difference between those guys and Luko.Same, let's not get sucked in and overpay for high draft pick forwards like the Bulldogs did with Boyd and Schache
Probably need to see at least a 20-30 goal season at least barring any injuries or personal problems.Marshall is almost, not quite, at that point where his output needs to start meeting his potential. I think next year is the year for him. If he doesn’t cement himself firmly in our 22 by this time next year there’s going to be some serious pressure on the kid.
Probably need to see at least a 20-30 goal season at least barring any injuries or personal problems.
More realistically I would like him to play 15 plus games averaging at least a goal a game.That seems like a totally reasonable expectation but how many 2nd kpfs are actually regularly kicking more than 30 a season?
Darling finlayson and (gws) himmelberg are the only guys who really fit the criteria of 2nd or 3rd kpf that will kick 30 goals this season. In past seasons I’m willing to bet the list is short if you stick to the criteria of a ‘kpf’
And the trend there are they are top of the ladder teams playing tall forward structures not using smalls like r gray s gray and Ebert as main forward targets or 2nd rucks as main targets either.
Marshall is almost, not quite, at that point where his output needs to start meeting his potential. I think next year is the year for him. If he doesn’t cement himself firmly in our 22 by this time next year there’s going to be some serious pressure on the kid.
What do you think the likes of Koch, Vanstone and Random would actually know about footy ?I’m intrigued that the board has lamented our lack of KPFs and their development and are suddenly wanting to cut some when we have a ‘surplus’.
Ryder and Westhoff should move on. Plenty of room for all of Dixon, Ladhams, Hayes, Frampton, Howard, Marshall and Luko.
You forgot Lycett.I’m intrigued that the board has lamented our lack of KPFs and their development and are suddenly wanting to cut some when we have a ‘surplus’.
Ryder and Westhoff should move on. Plenty of room for all of Dixon, Ladhams, Hayes, Frampton, Howard, Marshall and Luko.
What do you think the likes of Koch, Vanstone and Random would actually know about footy ?
You forgot Lycett.
If we’re going to play 3 tall forwards AND two ruckmen in the AFL (and put Howard back in defence) it could work. Even then two of Hayes, Marshall and Frampton are at the Magpies. Fair to say thats a relatively uncommon AFL setup too, so there’s probably even more AFL-ready talent stuck in SANFL.
Looks pretty surplussy to me, and frankly Marshall looks like one playing SANFL so why not keep our young mids and send Marshall onwards if it gets us Lukosius.
We don’t need an extra third tall forward loping around Alberton when Lukosius would cost a s**tload anyway.
Yeah but going for Lukosius is a pretty specific (and unlikely) situationThat’s fair. I’m with you on Luko over Marshall. Just wouldn’t be losing him if it could be helped.
When he’s averaging <10 disposal games and not even a goal a game he’s hardly deserving of his spot in the senior side. I’m ok with putting games into a young KPF but he’s looked out of his depth this year.Serious question. How can he cement himself when even if he is picked, he's the first dropped whenever a shiny new small defender becomes available?
We pay lip service to "form in the twos" but that's highly selective.
That's what I wrote on here at the time.The Crows secured overs for Cameron because of their relationship with Noble.
He can "cement" himself in the starting 22 by playing top grade football with the Maggies, forcing selectors to pick him, and then backing up that form in the Power. Port are playing for finals, and cant afford to play developing players that dont earn their spot. He has so much growth & potential as a tall forward, he is far better off being allowed to develop his game out of the glaring AFL spotlight!Serious question. How can he cement himself when even if he is picked, he's the first dropped whenever a shiny new small defender becomes available?
We pay lip service to "form in the twos" but that's highly selective.