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yes, but my point still stands..Rockliff - SOS didn't want to offer the terms and pay he wanted.
Smith - failed out medical apparently, but I always thought our pick10 which became LOB had to be used for Smith
Kelly never a hope.
Shiel we tried
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Kennedy 8 disposals and 2 goals 4
If you are referring to the one in the last qtr, that was after his opponent for the day had kicked 6 and was off the ground injured, The damage had been done. I love his athleticism and attack on the ball, but it needs to be better tempered and considered.Having said that, who doesnt love a chest mark 10ft off the ground rising from behind a pack of 5 players at a pivotal moment?
He just needs to match up his desire to attack with the ability of his opponent to kick goals.But then again how many times does he leave his man and take a saving mark. When it works its awesome, when it doesn't it kills us. He has to find the happy medium and when he has an off day he gets it wrong way too much.
Liked Kennedy yesterday - gives us that lead-up forward.. Good mark and a good shot for goal. Reckon he can make it as a forward.
I wonder if having TDK in the side up forward would have made a difference yesterday ???
If I post pissed it's usually in the music thread...I agree Gab personal attacking etc is not acceptable particularly if someone disagrees.... like you I wait a bit post game
Also posting after the game pissed is not a good idea either and bleating about umpires ...it’s not going to end well
We all love our Blues that’s one thing for sure !
I concur. The change in the game began when Walsh came out of the fwd line and went on ball. Silvagni's best game yet. A lot to like.It was actually Walsh and the efforts of Silvagni that lifted us and got us back into the game.
His salary seems a bit high to just carry our clubs but why not??Jones was recruited as a forward.
Kennedy could be our caddy.
This is something I think he does actually do alot most weeks. Always looking for the best option whgen sometimes the first option is the best one. Thought he helped turn the tide today in the 4thHe has a never-ending motor doesn't he? I think he got caught trying to do a bit much in tight today when he would have been better suited hitting the first option. Nevertheless, what a superstar.
What have you heard? And who did you hear it from? Obviously people that know him well right?
It's not about being a 'realist' or an 'optimist' either. Realists see what is, and they acknowledge the relevance of the past. Our past is poorer than we are now, our trajectory is positive. I suppose I just don't understand the 'line in the sand' style rhetoric; sure, it makes you feel big and strong as though you're doing something, but the reality of the situation is that even if you had the power to evince change onfield there is all probability that what changes you would make would produce inferior results.
I don't get ranting, I suppose.
Seeing as there's an elephant in the room here, all I'll say on the subject of umpiring is that there are a number of players league wide who have forged careers out of convincing umpires that they were infringed upon, and Tom Macdonald is one of those players. If we're looking at umpiring, perhaps the onus should be instead on banning the types of play and players that seek to obtain unfair advantage via diving or seeking illegal contact. It's cheating, and that the AFL allows it weekly is as much a travesty as the umpiring itself ever is.
Love this. Murphy was in our best half a dozen today (again) and dow was easily in our worst 5. Yet 1 gets praised and 1 gets criticised.Was thinking this myself. Both were slow to start and serviceable (at best) today.
I really love Dow. I know he’s much maligned for his kicking and disposal but he’s the type of player who just needs to keep developing. He’ll cone good.
Them scoring 12 goals from frees is a f*n joke but you can't blame the loss on that..turning up for a quarter and a bit of footy just isn't good enough. I love that we've been able to come back but hopefully the boys learn quickly that they need to be on from the first bounce.
Also, do we have a tackling coach? If yes, they need to be replaced and if not, we need one asap
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Bring back the Melbourne Storm fella we had working with us on tackling.
SPS - "He's playing soft non-contact football." And yet he is averaging 4.7 tackles a game this yer and 42% of his possessions are contested.Disappointing loss really, a bottom side, we had a chance to jump them on the ladder and played with no intensity or and lacked effort for the first half. Too many passengers and poorly skilled players in the side.
These poor starts and another loss to a bottom team, it's not helping the coaches chances of getting the job. The players need to lift, it's just not good enough.
Curnow - Always puts in, hard at it and lots of effort. Wasn't an overly prolific game but was ok.
Newman - He's a bit of a competitor but he's just an ordinary player. Would be a good player if he didn't butcher his kicks so often.
Silvagni - Awesome game. Hasn't been holding his overhead marks but this game he did. Was pretty good through the midfield, was the only player in there in the first half winning the ball. Clean hands and dishes off well. Kicked some nice goals and took some nice marks and hit his targets.
Walsh - Love how this guy player, just relentlessly competes and is very clean. Just needs to hit his targets better, breaks tackles but isn't always hitting his handballs. Still a really good player for us. Just goes hard.
Murphy - Really good game from Murphy, he's just got going again, cleared the ball well, made some nice tackles and wen't all day, was just not as prolific as he can be.
Kreuzer - He was ok, competitive, took a few nice marks but that's about it.
Thomas - He's a gun. Love the hardness and intensity and no fumble footy he's playing.
Setterfield - Some might say he had a good game, you look at the stats and it looks alright but it was not alright. Three goals is a good game but it wasn't, it was a stinker. Had the opportunity numerous times to win us the game and just didn't. Missed two shots from right in front and dropped the easiest of chest marks tight in front of goal which would have given us the lead. Played the first half in the midfield and struggled wo apply pressure or win the footy and was just ordinary. Good on him for kicking 3 and getting in the right spot a bit but it was not a good game. Should have kicked 6, I'm glad he kicked 3 but wasted his opportunities and was just so poor prior to that. Hopefully gets better. Keep him forward and hope he can tidy his game up.
Plowman - Fairly ordinary game. Did some poor things kicking the ball and was exposed for pace. Can defend alright but is a plodder. Good with the right matchup and he struggled for one.
Simpson - Tried hard but it starting to slow down a bit, still competed well and was alright in the end.
Casboult - Got out marked a couple of times but he kept presenting and putting himself in the right place and gave us a chop out in the ruck. He gave plenty to the team, just like him there and like his effort.
Lang - Did some nice things at times and ran to the right spots but didn't use the ball well and spent a lot of the game missing.
Kennedy - Really liking the footy he is playing. He's giving us a hard hitting ball winner up forward and he's got a nice long boot on him. He's playing some really hard footy and I love it. Getting to the right place, hitting the game hard and he had a few shots on goal plus a few nice kicks going in.
Fisher - Spent the first half of the game missing. Played midfield in the second half and was pretty good but needs to keep himself involved. Needs to add a physical side to his game and some hardness if he's going to go any further in this game. Little blokes who are good like him are really good at getting free kicks for high tackles and there's a reason why he isn't, doesn't go in hard and this is why he's been shifted off the ball by Teague.
SPS - Really disappointed with the footy he's playing. He's playing soft non-contact football. Just runs around getting easy uncontested kicks and won't go in when it's his turn to put the body on the line and go hard. Gets his 15-20 touches per game but there is a missing the 5-10 touches where he's not going hard at the contested ball. It's all well and good to run around and receive and gather lose balls and I like his disposal but he spent a lot of this game missing when it was tough and the heat was on. Same as Fisher, little blokes like him are usually good at getting free kicks for high tackles but he doesn't go hard and this is why Teague isn't playing him on the ball.
Gibbons - Does some ok things but he can't kick. He's just an ordinary player but he tries and he has a go and he's kicking a goal a game now and that is how he's hanging on in the side.
O'Brien - Missing for most of the game, a few touches late but he was uninvolved and I feel his opponent might have got a bit lose. Couldn't back up last weeks more prolific game.
Marchbank - He seemed to play alright without setting the game on fire.
Dow - Played mostly forward, struggled to get the footy, did some alright things, missed a pass by foot early in the game. Was lazy and in first gear when applying pressure as he always is. Just a really unimpressive footballer for mine and I know he's young but that is the reality of it. Should not be playing senior football.
Weitering - Was a quiet game from him before getting injured late in the game but I feel his injury restructured us and we looked better not being so tall.
McGovern - This guy can't get a kick. Doesn't look like he can run and get separation or doesn't know where to run too. He's another who should not be in the side. Looking like a wasted and pointless trade at this stage.
Jones - Early on he was shocking, getting a bath from everyone. Missed spoils, looked uncoordinated and just looked right out of place playing up the ground. Came good later in the game but it was a very very poor game from him.
You look at that team and there's just too many players who aren't up to it or don't play hard enough and it's our top few who carry the team every week. Our fitness also looks good, great we can come home strong but our starts are either a lack of effort or a lack of quality over the team as a whole. Hopefully we get some players back and can push a few back to the reserves.
Nope. Not at all. Just a statement of fact that you and Thy can’t get your head around. The umpiring hurt us in the first three quarters. So did our s**t skills. One fact doesn’t invalidate the other. Both contributed to our 3/4 time deficit. Certainly our skills contributed more. As did Jones inexplicable decision making. But the umpiring hurt us. Period. Moving on from that now. It’s a no win topic with a few here.So you're accusing the umpires of cheating?
1000 percent this. I’ve been a broken record about it I know. He doesn’t value chasing. Or if he does it certainly doesn’t show. He stays in second gear defensively. We can’t just casually dismiss it as fitness. If it was fitness you’d see him sprint defensively 4-5 times and offensively 4-5 times. Instead we literally NEVeR see him sprint defensively. But we do see him sprint offensively. Eg sps. He sprints both ways equally. Loving his effort at the moment. Not Dow. Its NOT fitness. Fitness would increase the total number of efforts. Not the ‘distribution’ of those efforts. Which at the moment are all one way.Some posters have suggested that statistically his pressure acts numbers are solid. My issue with Dow is that he has a change of gear offensively where he will burst through a stoppage, but when chasing a bloke he never reaches that same gear. That is a mentality issue for me, why is the defensive side worth less energy expenditure? Also a fitness issue, he doesn't trust himself to get through a game without saving himself? Possibly.
SPS - "He's playing soft non-contact football." And yet he is averaging 4.7 tackles a game this yer and 42% of his possessions are contested.
On Fisher - Toby McLean is a little bloke who gets a lot of high contact free kicks, but it isn't because he goes in hard, it is because he drops his knees looking for a free every time he goes near a contest. I would prefer to have Fisher who is always looking at making space and finding a team mate than McLean who is simply happy to take the tackle and hope for a free kick.
???? SPS had 13 contested out of his 17? Hardly cruising around. 4th in pressure acts. I think he had a real go.Disappointing loss really, a bottom side, we had a chance to jump them on the ladder and played with no intensity or and lacked effort for the first half. Too many passengers and poorly skilled players in the side.
These poor starts and another loss to a bottom team, it's not helping the coaches chances of getting the job. The players need to lift, it's just not good enough.
Curnow - Always puts in, hard at it and lots of effort. Wasn't an overly prolific game but was ok.
Newman - He's a bit of a competitor but he's just an ordinary player. Would be a good player if he didn't butcher his kicks so often.
Silvagni - Awesome game. Hasn't been holding his overhead marks but this game he did. Was pretty good through the midfield, was the only player in there in the first half winning the ball. Clean hands and dishes off well. Kicked some nice goals and took some nice marks and hit his targets.
Walsh - Love how this guy player, just relentlessly competes and is very clean. Just needs to hit his targets better, breaks tackles but isn't always hitting his handballs. Still a really good player for us. Just goes hard.
Murphy - Really good game from Murphy, he's just got going again, cleared the ball well, made some nice tackles and wen't all day, was just not as prolific as he can be.
Kreuzer - He was ok, competitive, took a few nice marks but that's about it.
Thomas - He's a gun. Love the hardness and intensity and no fumble footy he's playing.
Setterfield - Some might say he had a good game, you look at the stats and it looks alright but it was not alright. Three goals is a good game but it wasn't, it was a stinker. Had the opportunity numerous times to win us the game and just didn't. Missed two shots from right in front and dropped the easiest of chest marks tight in front of goal which would have given us the lead. Played the first half in the midfield and struggled wo apply pressure or win the footy and was just ordinary. Good on him for kicking 3 and getting in the right spot a bit but it was not a good game. Should have kicked 6, I'm glad he kicked 3 but wasted his opportunities and was just so poor prior to that. Hopefully gets better. Keep him forward and hope he can tidy his game up.
Plowman - Fairly ordinary game. Did some poor things kicking the ball and was exposed for pace. Can defend alright but is a plodder. Good with the right matchup and he struggled for one.
Simpson - Tried hard but it starting to slow down a bit, still competed well and was alright in the end.
Casboult - Got out marked a couple of times but he kept presenting and putting himself in the right place and gave us a chop out in the ruck. He gave plenty to the team, just like him there and like his effort.
Lang - Did some nice things at times and ran to the right spots but didn't use the ball well and spent a lot of the game missing.
Kennedy - Really liking the footy he is playing. He's giving us a hard hitting ball winner up forward and he's got a nice long boot on him. He's playing some really hard footy and I love it. Getting to the right place, hitting the game hard and he had a few shots on goal plus a few nice kicks going in.
Fisher - Spent the first half of the game missing. Played midfield in the second half and was pretty good but needs to keep himself involved. Needs to add a physical side to his game and some hardness if he's going to go any further in this game. Little blokes who are good like him are really good at getting free kicks for high tackles and there's a reason why he isn't, doesn't go in hard and this is why he's been shifted off the ball by Teague.
SPS - Really disappointed with the footy he's playing. He's playing soft non-contact football. Just runs around getting easy uncontested kicks and won't go in when it's his turn to put the body on the line and go hard. Gets his 15-20 touches per game but there is a missing the 5-10 touches where he's not going hard at the contested ball. It's all well and good to run around and receive and gather lose balls and I like his disposal but he spent a lot of this game missing when it was tough and the heat was on. Same as Fisher, little blokes like him are usually good at getting free kicks for high tackles but he doesn't go hard and this is why Teague isn't playing him on the ball.
Gibbons - Does some ok things but he can't kick. He's just an ordinary player but he tries and he has a go and he's kicking a goal a game now and that is how he's hanging on in the side.
O'Brien - Missing for most of the game, a few touches late but he was uninvolved and I feel his opponent might have got a bit lose. Couldn't back up last weeks more prolific game.
Marchbank - He seemed to play alright without setting the game on fire.
Dow - Played mostly forward, struggled to get the footy, did some alright things, missed a pass by foot early in the game. Was lazy and in first gear when applying pressure as he always is. Just a really unimpressive footballer for mine and I know he's young but that is the reality of it. Should not be playing senior football.
Weitering - Was a quiet game from him before getting injured late in the game but I feel his injury restructured us and we looked better not being so tall.
McGovern - This guy can't get a kick. Doesn't look like he can run and get separation or doesn't know where to run too. He's another who should not be in the side. Looking like a wasted and pointless trade at this stage.
Jones - Early on he was shocking, getting a bath from everyone. Missed spoils, looked uncoordinated and just looked right out of place playing up the ground. Came good later in the game but it was a very very poor game from him.
You look at that team and there's just too many players who aren't up to it or don't play hard enough and it's our top few who carry the team every week. Our fitness also looks good, great we can come home strong but our starts are either a lack of effort or a lack of quality over the team as a whole. Hopefully we get some players back and can push a few back to the reserves.
1000 percent this. I’ve been a broken record about it I know. He doesn’t value chasing. Or if he does it certainly doesn’t show. He stays in second gear defensively. We can’t just casually dismiss it as fitness. If it was fitness you’d see him sprint defensively 4-5 times and offensively 4-5 times. Instead we literally NEVeR see him sprint defensively. But we do see him sprint offensively. Eg sps. He sprints both ways equally. Loving his effort at the moment. Not Dow. Its NOT fitness. Fitness would increase the total number of efforts. Not the ‘distribution’ of those efforts. Which at the moment are all one way.