DaTBird187
What D Farke?
- Feb 9, 2014
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Damn and I thought I was drunk.
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Holy *, had completely forgotten Ben Griffiths even existed.Sure there is more than one way to skin a cat and Richmond developed a plan when they lost Ben Griffiths last year with concussion issues and decided to go small forward line and only 1 ruck and got away with BS of playing Grigg or another 185cm player as a second ruck.
17 clubs stupidly, in 2017 played into Richmond's hand and the same this year, until Grundy and to a lesser extent Cox last week said we aren't going to let Richmond get away with this BS.
I have written before that when Ryder is being dominate and with his leap, he should do a Babe Ruth, point where he is going to hit the ball at centre bounce, send Robbie or one of our other mids 10-15m forward of the centre circle and belt the ball straight down his throat and test out if a defender goes and stands the mid or plays russian roulette and stays back so its 2 v 3 at ground level inside the centre circle.
But Paddy jumps high, gets his hands to the ball first and does these little deft taps backwards or slightly forward, and if our mids get it first, usually they are set upon by the oppo and especially by Richmond mids, as its so easy to read what he is going to do. Paddy very very very rarely mixes it up at centre bounces.
Watch last years grand final and when Jacobs was up against Grigg, instead of belting the ball forward 20-30m to break things up, he went a nice little tap to Crouch, or Sloane, or Dougas etc and the Richmond mids were all over the crows player like a fat kid is on to a finger bun. There was no thinking, no trying to change things, no trying to upset Richmond's plans. Like a crowbot Jacobs was programmed to do the same thing over and over and over. But so were many other ruckmen the 3-4 months leading up to the 2017 GF.
Grundy in the PF was obviously instructed, when Grigg rucks, smash the bloody ball forward, so that if he doesn't jump its not 3 onto 4 on the ground. He did it a dozen times and most times Collingwood took the ball away as the ball was moving forward towards their goal and they were set up for it. But more importantly he had a mind set so that if he out jumped Nankervis to also do it and not let those manic Richmond mids an easy attack on the collingwood mids.
It has been hard for me to watch and believe so many head coaches who are paid hundreds of thousands of dollars and assistants a couple of hundred thousand dollars a year, plus all the video and football analysts clubs employ and they missed the bleeding obvious for well over 12 months and let Richmond get away with such a BS strategy. Well it was bleeding obvious to me anyway.
Holy ****, had completely forgotten Ben Griffiths even existed.
Turns out he did this- first I'd heard of it
http://m.richmondfc.com.au/news/2018-01-11/ben-griffiths-retirement
With all the recruiting last yr not to include a ruckman was and is baffling better late than never i guess.Only taken 3 years to cotton onto this. Its not that we are slow its just that we are ........
I read this as...Davies reckons we want to keep all 5 of the ruckman for next year. Either spin or they have finally worked out it's good to stockpile a few - because injuries happen plus you can trade them away once they demand more opportunities.
Port Adelaide has declared it wants to keep its plethora of unsigned ruckmen but concedes “some of those decisions will be taken out of our hands’’. After signing star young guns, last year’s first-round draft picks Connor Rozee, Zak Butters and Xavier Duursma, to two-year contract extensions, along with promising defender Joel Garner and injured midfielder/forward Jake Patmore, the Power will turn its attention to trying to striking new deals with veteran All-Australian Paddy Ryder and youngsters Peter Ladhams, Sam Hayes and Billy Frampton, who are all attracting attention from rivals.
With West Coast premiership ruckman Scott Lycett taking over the No. 1 ruck duties in his first year at Port and starring, former Bomber Ryder, 31, has been dropped to the SANFL and Ladhams, 21, Hayes, 20, and Frampton, 22, who also can play as a key forward, are stuck in the SANFL. All bar Hayes fall out of contract at the end of the season and have AFL suitors. “That is something that we’ve got to manage into the future,’’ Davies said.
“We're happy with our ruck depth at the moment and don’t think we’ve got too many. We think five is the right number. “We’re happy with their development and thinking all have been given good opportunities at AFL or SANFL level. “But there comes a time in every player's career where he needs to look at what he wants to achieve and whether he’s willing to be in an SANFL team or wants to play at AFL level. “We understand that players have an opportunity to make whatever decision they want.’’
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Did you see Chris Davies Press Conference today .. He said Paddy will play a for Port in the future, which I take as next year.Find it hard to see Ryder on our list next year.
Find it hard to see Ryder on our list next year.
It'd be silly for Ryder to stay here to be honest. Plenty of clubs where he'd be a walk-up start as #1 ruck.
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I don’t like this, but seems trueFind it hard to see Ryder on our list next year.
Recent reports are saying Adelaide have shown interest in Ladhams.I reckon he'd be a walk up start at Adelaide, Essendon, Fremantle, Geelong, St Kilda, Sydney and the Bulldogs. But Adelaide, Fremantle, St Kilda and the Bulldogs are putting time into promising young rucks so probably wouldn't go for Paddy. So Essendon (lol) and Geelong would be his best chances.
The two Sydney clubs are wildcards. If Mumford goes on, he's no chance at GWS. But if he doesn't, big chance. And who knows what's happening with Naismith and Sinclair at Sydney, it's hard to read the Swans at the best of times.
Recent reports are saying Adelaide have shown interest in Ladhams.
It's simply his body is not up to being the No.1 ruck anymore. He's also an awful forward. So we should move him on.i want to know exactly what is wrong with Ryder, if its a case of his body not being able to handle the work load then its time to cut him free, we are in a good position right now with Lycett, Ladham and Hayes all being match ready by the start of 2020. Personally id rather concentrate of keeping Frampton than Ryder as i think he's a bigger hole to fill from a list point of view than Ryder is at the moment