When hes arguing stupid semantics rather than the issue.... yes to him and yes to anyone else whos only object is to derail as their actual argument is so patently weak
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That's not why you called him stupid and you know it, you're just trying to save face.
You got it horribly wrong and argued until you saw it.
If you didn't want to derail, then why did you keep up the argument?
Can you please join the dots? Your point is that dead people who were also white did racist things makes it more likely booing goodies in 2019 is racist.. If that isn't your point then what is?
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What, about anything I said in my last post to you, gave you the impression that you'd hit a raw nerve?
Not very often it seems, if your almost 10,000 posts on a footy forum is anything to go by.
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I agree intent is important. You obviously don't know anything about the young girl's intent though do you? I'll fill you in.
Her mother, Joanne believed Goodes shouldn't have singled her out and blamed the incident for the booing he later copped.
She also said her daughter did not know the connotations of the word and had been a victim of unfair treatment.
Goodes said the young girl called him to apologise. The girl herself (Julia) spoke to TEN news and said ...
Enough said.
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I admitted it two pages ago
Keep up.
I admitted that you have won a tiny technicality that does nothing to detract whatsoever from the fact that bolt is a racist pos.
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Sorry to butt in on the argument you're having with LoungeLizard etc, but just thought I'd interject with one question.
Can you see how easy it is to vilify someone?
As far as Bolt himself is concerned, while I don't agree with everything he says, I don't think he's a racist. I just see him as one of the first to fall foul of an overzealously drafted Section 18C and a rabid Human Rights Commission. More came later, like Bill Leak the cartoonist, the QUT student and others. Many more will follow unless it's changed.
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All that is fine and I agree intent and content matter to how we judge HER. However, how do you suggest Goodes - the one the offensive term was directed at, should have reacted in the exact circumstances - heat of the moment, indigenous round, a week of celebrating your heritage both privately and publicly. What was an appropriate response.
There’s no time for an ID check to determine age, no chance to ask her to complete a survey indicating the reasons for and intentions of her comments.
My view is offensive phrases are offensive phrases and should be called out regardless but I’m honestly interested in your (and others) opinion.
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He already said he knew it was a young girl straight away. No ID check required, just turned 13, pretty straightforward.
While I appreciate the rest of your comments and can genuinely see where you're coming from, for me, that's where it ends. Once he realised she was a young girl, that's where it ends, Indigenous round or not.
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Oh please. He was the only aboriginal player I know of that got completely booed by every team all the time. That to me says it was because they disliked him as a person not because he was aboriginal otherwise those same people would have always booed Buddy, Cyril and the like also. Good bye.
If you dont agree and want to defend your past player good luck because I can't be bothered anymore.
The sentence after Bolt makes this gesture, he implies that if you go to the northern territory you'll be stabbed by Aboriginals using spears.
Sounds a bit racist to me.
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Adam Goodes brought it upon himself.
Andrew Bolt is the real victim.
You are priceless.
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The sentence after Bolt makes this gesture, he implies that if you go to the northern territory you'll be stabbed by Aboriginals using spears.
Sounds a bit racist to me.
Got a link where we can hear what he actually says rather than rely on your nebulous "he implies"?
Your argument basically boils down to
"Racism doesn't happen every time an indigenous player takes the field, therefore it never happens."
Ten pages ago you were posting that using the term "Abo" isn't racist. (These posts i assume were reported and deleted). Maybe you just don't understand what being racist is?
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As opposed to pointing her out to security to be marched out of the ground in front of thousands of people, many of whom booed at yelled abuse at her on the way? Yes. If he wanted to do something it could've waited until after the game.
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Thanks for posting it. Anyway, I think you'll find he was referring to this....
https://www.alicespringsnews.com.au...e-killing-of-our-women-and-abuse-of-our-kids/
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How would he find her after the game?
And I'm sorry but if my 13 year old girl called a black man a gorilla, she deserves to be called out on it instantly.
If the black guy that she called a gorilla lets her know that s**t is not on, then that doesn't make him 'a flog.'
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I never suggested he should do that. When I said deal with it after the game I meant mention it in the post game, report it to the AFL, anything other than what he did.
That's not what she said, and you know it.
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i never said he wasnt
Doubtful-didn’t see anything about spears in that article.
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