Hawthorn’s 2019 Trade/FA - Targets/Incoming players discussion only

[Cyzzametimbres]

TBH I don't care whether he comes from a basketball background, the question is can he play?

If he's coming on the cheap then I won't complain, but at the end of the day he doesn't excel in either end of the ground.

He averages 16/17 touches and <1 goal per game.

He’s got good clutch moments and is good defensively. Tackles well and can intercept. He’ll be handy at worst.

 

[Bugs1977]

TBH I don't care whether he comes from a basketball background, the question is can he play?

If he's coming on the cheap then I won't complain, but at the end of the day he doesn't excel in either end of the ground.

He averages 16/17 touches and <1 goal per game.

If I had to guess then the basketball background matters a whole lot to Clarko. Basketball players are highly skilled in positioning. They know how to but on blocks (set screens) have great hand / eye coordination. In regards to Greenwood though he played underage footy at a high level before he had college scouts come calling for basketball. He’s not new to the game but it’s just the fact he had a choice in both.

 

[Kinghts 24]

TBH I don't care whether he comes from a basketball background, the question is can he play?

If he's coming on the cheap then I won't complain, but at the end of the day he doesn't excel in either end of the ground.

He averages 16/17 touches and <1 goal per game.

The moment Adelaide start dealing on Greenwood, he'll all of a sudden become a "a rare combination of a line breaking, inside Bull who wins his own footy and then can exit stoppages with pace and find the goals with ease. Can play forward where he regularly takes contested marks while being good below his knees, and can win games off his own boot. Equally comfortable sitting across half-back where his skill as an intercept marking rebound running defender who can pay tall or short, enables him to turn the tide of games"

Happy if he comes cheap.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

I think this is mainly due to him struggling to find a place in Adelaide's midfield with Sloane and 2 x Crouch as well as CEY on occasion. For this reason Hawthorn have likely identified him as a value pick-up as it will be very hard for Adelaide to demand much for him.

Say we are able to land Coniglio, then we will have:

Mitchell
Jaeger
Coniglio
Shiels
Worpel
Wingard

Which is a much better, and deeper, midfield than Adelaide's.

 

[Hodgey 15]

This makes me very happy!

What makes me just as happy is the salty sooks in this tweet bitching over another potential hawk's recruit.
Very funny.

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[Judd2Sewell]

If I had to guess then the basketball background matters a whole lot to Clarko. Basketball players are highly skilled in positioning. They know how to but on blocks (set screens) have great hand / eye coordination. In regards to Greenwood though he played underage footy at a high level before he had college scouts come calling for basketball. He’s not new to the game but it’s just the fact he had a choice in both.

Yeah I'm aware of that, the commentators would harp on about it continuously when he started playing. He's just not a consistent quality player IMO.

I wouldn't complain if it was on the cheap though.

 

[SuperSic]

Say we are able to land Coniglio, then we will have:

Mitchell
Jaeger
Coniglio
Shiels
Worpel
Wingard

Which is a much better, and deeper, midfield than Adelaide's.

Agreed, but I still think Wingard will be predominantly forward and perhaps they are creating back-up plans for if Cogs doesn't come.

 

[JaegarTime]

Greenwood would be a fantastic acquisition. At his best he’s a game breaker, great mark and size. Has even proven the difference kicking 5 goals in games before. More strings to his bow then say a Cousins/Howe

 

[HODGEYROAD]

Agreed, but I still think Wingard will be predominantly forward and perhaps they are creating back-up plans for if Cogs doesn't come.

Wash your mouth out please, imagine the feeling on missing Coniglio but landing Greenwood, opposition fans would be in delirium.

 

[Roger Rogerson]

Not really keen on Greenwood at all personally. He doesn't kick many goals nor does he do too much in the midfield.

He's an in between player.

Tad slow.

 

[Flamin Joe]

What makes me just as happy is the salty sooks in this tweet bitching over another potential hawk's recruit.
Very funny.

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Which is exactly why the journalist went with Hawthorn as the headline over the other clubs expressing interest.

 

[Dewnior]

Wash your mouth out please, imagine the feeling on missing Coniglio but landing Greenwood, opposition fans would be in delirium.

Would be like going shopping for a Ferrari but bringing home a Kia

 

[Mercy Seat]

Wash your mouth out please, imagine the feeling on missing Coniglio but landing Greenwood, opposition fans would be in delirium.

Not an unlikely scenario tbh.

 

[RoughysMullet]

Someone convince me on this.. seems like another one paced midfielder that isn’t all that young and doesn’t look to offer much more than James Cousins. He can’t get a regular game at Adelaide and with Mitchell returning- there’s one less spot in the side for a mid, I just can’t really see who he forces out of our best 22 atm..

 

[Ned Ryerson]

Would be like going shopping for a Ferrari but bringing home a Kia

People said similar stuff the off-season we only ended up with Impey. 18 months later that looks a lot better than a Kia. Sometimes when we show a lot of interest in a player it’s for very good reason.

 

[Brishawk]

Say we are able to land Coniglio, then we will have:

Mitchell
Jaeger
Coniglio
Shiels
Worpel
Wingard

Which is a much better, and deeper, midfield than Adelaide's.

All shorter mids. Need some larger bodies too.

 

[Leather Poisoning]

Someone convince me on this.. seems like another one paced midfielder that isn’t all that young and doesn’t look to offer much more than James Cousins. He can’t get a regular game at Adelaide and if we land Cogs there’s one less spot in the side for a mid, I just can’t really see who he forces out of our best 22 atm

He's got great goal sense.
Clarko will use him as a forward that rolls into the mid. Not as a mid that rolls into the forward.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

If Greenwood is a free hit you do it every day of the week.

We are not blessed with depth, and he adds to that while also being versatile.

 

[OnceKicked50]

Greenwood is the perfect player to have when you are rebuilding. Ultimate team player, tough as nails and I'd imagine the ultimate professional. A bit of Richie Vandenberg but able to impact forward for mine.

I feel some of the Conilgio talk is going quiet, and perhaps others have legitimately entered the race there.

If we pick up Greenwod it may be about the now, with other recruits in. However, it could also mean we are going to blood more youth and he is exactly what our list is missing, and a younger 22 needs. A bit of an enforcer, reckless attack at the footy style mid/forward. He would take the pressure off Mitchell and O'Meara.

 

[RIOLINWITPUNCHS]

Not really keen on Greenwood at all personally. He doesn't kick many goals nor does he do too much in the midfield.

He's an in between player.

Players who were also a bit meh at there previous clubs:

Henderson
Ceglar
Hale
Simpkin
Guerra
McEvoy
Impey
Frawley

Mitchell

 

[Hawkie_McHawkHawk]

Wash your mouth out please, imagine the feeling on missing Coniglio but landing Greenwood, opposition fans would be in delirium.

I wouldn’t really blame them. The carry on by some one-eyed posters around here, if I was a supporter of another team I’d be sticking the boot in too. Taking emotion and hawthorn coloured glasses off there’s a very good chance of no Cogs and bringing Greenwood in I’d think.

 

[TheExtractorFactor]

Someone convince me on this.. seems like another one paced midfielder that isn’t all that young and doesn’t look to offer much more than James Cousins. He can’t get a regular game at Adelaide and with Mitchell returning- there’s one less spot in the side for a mid, I just can’t really see who he forces out of our best 22 atm..

Taller, bigger bodied, wins more contested ball, more athletic. When Mitchell gets back I think it's going to be mighty hard for Cousins to get a gig in the seniors. Hope I'm wrong but I think Cousins could be another case of too good for the VFL but not quite up to the AFL.

 

[The German Hunter]

Would be like going shopping for a Ferrari but bringing home a Kia

Kia comes with a seven year warranty

 

[rei154]

Don't mind us going for Greenwood, but I think this only happens if Clarko/GW expect us to be top four next year- that is to say I think if it goes through, it will be one of the last deals of the trade period. I'd rather go for a younger player from another club though- if we can get Bonar from GWS I'd rather take him than Greenwood.

 

[WWSD]

Someone convince me on this.. seems like another one paced midfielder that isn’t all that young and doesn’t look to offer much more than James Cousins. He can’t get a regular game at Adelaide and with Mitchell returning- there’s one less spot in the side for a mid. I just can’t really see who he forces out of our best 22 atm..

Howe