Recruiting Trade & Free Agency VI

[Red Black and Blue]

I’d like us to look at Nakia. Would be cheapish, but upside is there and would fit our midfield nicely.

 

[ghostdog]

What is the point of discussing trading Hurley?? I can categorically say it won't be happening

So, categorically, who should we be discussing?

 

[Milanista28]

The only way we will go for a big name is if Raz left, Which is fine i think, a player @ Brodie or Sier's level possibly, Happy enough to hit the draft this year.

Martin depending on cost should also be considered.

 

[rumply]

Do we have a first round pick this year, I forget.

 

[Beerfish]

Do we have a first round pick this year, I forget.

Not at the moment..

 

[rumply]

Not at the moment..

dang, doesnt help any trade scenarios I would have thought

 

[GUMBLETRON]

dang, doesnt help any trade scenarios I would have thought

Does help cap the nuff levels in this thread though. No picks and no players either would be ideal.

 

[BrunoV]

It's gotta be a problem with balance. Swallow, Miles, Bowes, Miller, McPherson and Fiorini is a very slow midfield group before you add Brodie to the mix.

He's still behind some very average players

 

[eth-dog]

I would have zero issues with no trades this year barring getting guys OOC and unlikely to play with us anyway places they want to go to (Hartley for example)

 

[vast]

Hugh Greenwood worth a look imo. Seems hawks are interested according to AFL site.

 

[MightyDons4]

He's still behind some very average players

Undeservedly so might I add. We kept guys like Baguley and Myers in the team because their 'known' mediocrity was valued higher than an 'unknown' kid.

 

[Haychh]

So, categorically, who should we be discussing?

Someone who isn’t 29 still playing good footy, top 5 important player, stuck by us even after ruining a large chunk of his peak footy and still has 3 years left on his contract.

Facts are if he doesn’t want to leave we aren’t pushing him out the door.

 

[Red Black and Blue]

Someone who isn’t 29 still playing good footy, top 5 important player, stuck by us even after ruining a large chunk of his peak footy and still has 3 years left on his contract.

Facts are if he doesn’t want to leave we aren’t pushing him out the door.

Other thing is we don’t need to trade a player. We have two second rounders and a future first or second rounder to trade. Trading a 28 year old Hurley won’t get us anything greater a combination of picks we have won’t be able to.

 

[ghostdog]

Someone who isn’t 29 still playing good footy, top 5 important player, stuck by us even after ruining a large chunk of his peak footy and still has 3 years left on his contract.

Facts are if he doesn’t want to leave we aren’t pushing him out the door.

Other thing is we don’t need to trade a player. We have two second rounders and a future first or second rounder to trade. Trading a 28 year old Hurley won’t get us anything greater a combination of picks we have won’t be able to.

Well, there's nothing like a 'fact' to shut down an opinion. Hopefully we go into 2020 with a fit and competent key forward and ruckman.

 

[foj1]

I reckon the battle will be to keep fantasia, draper and zerk-thatcher.
The latter two will be coveted by other clubs no doubt.

 

[fairbump_playon]

I reckon the battle will be to keep fantasia, draper and zerk-thatcher.
The latter two will be coveted by other clubs no doubt.

Structurally we need Zerk and Draper more than Fantasia.

 

[Haychh]

Well, there's nothing like a 'fact' to shut down an opinion. Hopefully we go into 2020 with a fit and competent key forward and ruckman.

Why would we need to give up a top 5 player to get one? Which Ruckman or Key Forward would you propose we trade Hurley for?

Zerk and Franga potentially both best 22 next year, Hooker can play forward if he has to. Lose Clarke and Get Ceglar as a free agent.

Our out and out Key Forwards on our list are currently Daniher, Smack, Brown, Stewart, Gown. Then Stringer, Hooker, Laverde and Langford can all play a similar role. Our list balance is pretty good right now, we don’t need any more Key Forwards, any more and we’re simply robbing Peter to pay Paul.

 

[ghostdog]

Why would we need to give up a top 5 player to get one? Which Ruckman or Key Forward would you propose we trade Hurley for?

Zerk and Franga potentially both best 22 next year, Hooker can play forward if he has to. Lose Clarke and Get Ceglar as a free agent.

Our out and out Key Forwards on our list are currently Daniher, Smack, Brown, Stewart, Gown. Then Stringer, Hooker, Laverde and Langford can all play a similar role. Our list balance is pretty good right now, we don’t need any more Key Forwards, any more and we’re simply robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Because, I think, Zerk and Franga are both potentially best 22 next year, and by trading in a quality key forward we could keep Hooker as a key back. This could allow us to make the most of the talent we have, given Daniher's a 50/50. I'm not interested in either Smack or Brown having the key forward role full time.

Also, because Daniher and Stewart are by no means certainties. I see two or three of Stringer, Laverde, Langford and Smack in the forwardline. TBell doesn't have the capacity to continue as the number 1 ruckman and Draper will need support.

I don't have a full knowledge of who is and isn't available. I realise we don't have a lot of currency for this trade period, which is another reason why trading Hurley is, I think, worth discussing. If it were me, I'd be asking about Peter Wright; gun key forward/ruck. Smack gives us depth. We would potentially look like this;

Laverde - Wright - McDonald Tipungwuti
Fantasia - Daniher - Stringer
Redman - Heppell - Smith
Francis - Zerk Thatcher - McKenna
Saad - Hooker - Ambrose
Draper - Shiel - McGrath

I/C: Parish, Langford, Ridley, Guelfi

I realise Wright is highly unlikely. Interested in your opinion and facts as well.

 

[Doss]

Hurley is not going to happen, pretty simple.

 

[ghostdog]

Hurley is not going to happen, pretty simple.

I don't think it is either. I just think it should.

 

[Doss]

I can think of a multitude of reasons why it shouldn't, and won't.

 

[yodellinhank]

Well seeing as that's now cleared up, what can we get for Fantasia?

 

[ghostdog]

I can think of a multitude of reasons why it shouldn't, and won't.

And so, hopefully we go into 2020 with a fit and competent key forward and ruckman.

 

[ghostdog]

Well seeing as that's now cleared up, what can we get for Fantasia?

Raz says he's staying. I'm inclined to take him at face value on that. If his story changes at season's end... anger, annoyance and Conor Rozee.

 

[owen87]

Don't think we need to chase any big fish this year, happy to take our picks to the draft and look at some FA options to round out our depth. Assuming Draper & Fantasia stay of course.

Sier / Brodie are both worth a look as players that are likely obtainable for a 2nd round pick. We've got a number of young players that will want contracts of higher value, we've brought in Shiel, Saad, Stringer and Smith all on pretty reasonable money one would assume.

A Saad type trade would be ideal, picking a player who slots in with a skill set we need and can have a real role for instead of just whatever is available.