bang!Ok Goodes wasn’t booed because he’s indigenous, people just didn’t like him!
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bang!Ok Goodes wasn’t booed because he’s indigenous, people just didn’t like him!
I'llgive you an unpopular one... Jim Stynes doesnt deserve a statue outside the MCG.
Technically the AFL did.Melbourne football club threw dean bailey under the bus bigggg time.
As if Stynes had no idea of the tanking
Sure, but why didn't people like him?Ok Goodes wasn’t booed because he’s indigenous, people just didn’t like him!
Because he is aboriginal!Sure, but why didn't people like him?
Sure, but why didn't people like him?
Sure, but why didn't people like him?
Sniping and sooking. Never particularly liked his on field persona but respected the s**t out of him as a player. Never booed him at the time but if he was to play today I would boo this s**t out of him for his pathetic posturing and carrying on post playing career
Goodes was really strongly supported by the public for pointing a racist out in the crowd, for his work in promoting indigenous causes and his leadership. His role as an indigenous leader was a key factor in the broad public support he received. And rightly so.
Goodes was booed because of
- his "school prefectish" public image where he aligned himself with a lot of "do-gooderish" people and the main authority / establishment type causes and figures
- his dour, serious, humourless way of presenting over serious issues
- the comparison between this martyr like public stance and the niggly, aggressive style of play and flopping he adopted in later years
If there was a racist angle to it, it was minimal.
Walsh plays in a tougher position in a worse team, but I've seen Stack do things Walsh hasn't done yet and vice versa. Maybe he will in the future, but not at this moment.Unpopular opinions, not massively biased opinions.
Walsh has him covered mate relax
If he was booed for flopping, why isn't every flopper booed? Or why was he booed from the first minute, and not just after he'd picked up a dodgy free?Goodes was really strongly supported by the public for pointing a racist out in the crowd, for his work in promoting indigenous causes and his leadership. His role as an indigenous leader was a key factor in the broad public support he received. And rightly so.
Goodes was booed because of
- his "school prefectish" public image where he aligned himself with a lot of "do-gooderish" people and the main authority / establishment type causes and figures
- his dour, serious, humourless way of presenting over serious issues
- the comparison between this martyr like public stance and the niggly, aggressive style of play and flopping he adopted in later years
If there was a racist angle to it, it was minimal.
Yes, how dare someone take and present serious issues... seriously. He's not a comedian and trying to present serious issues in a lighthearted manner (or anything close to it) would probably fall flat and be a misstep anyway.
As for his "school prefectish" this argument just sounds like people were sick of being lectured about racism. Generally people who are like "jeez I wish people wouldn't be so angry about racism" are racists who are sick of being criticised for being one or don't care about the issue because they don't care about racism. Or both. What's wrong with associating yourself with people who want to do good things in life? No, revel in the racism, social improvement is for schmucks!
And if people can't disassociate Goodes the footballer from Goodes the person, then they're not very smart.
Maybe people thought that picking on a kid for racism is unfair given kids don't really know what they're saying. But what the kid was saying was racist and there's a wider undercurrent of racism that other players have experienced which hasn't gone away. And that doesn't change unless Goodes says something. I just find it weird that indigenous players are policed about how they respond to racism. If someone said that I need to respond to racism in a a polite and lighthearted manner, I'd tell them to **** off.
If he was booed for flopping, why isn't every flopper booed? Or why was he booed from the first minute, and not just after he'd picked up a dodgy free?
Or niggly and aggressive style? Plenty of players have made a career out of this and don't get booed ever. Plenty even get the "good bloke" defence. Yeah, I'm looking at you, Luke Hodge.
Plenty of footballers align themselves with all sorts of causes and don't get booed. Plenty come across as school prefects, and don't get booed.
And yeah, some other players get booed, but never to the extent that Adam Goodes did.
so why dont selwood and brown get the same booing for diving? or ablett, fyfe and cunnington for being snipers?Diving, I'd guess. He became a flopper in his twilight years.
adam goodes is the only one who spoke out publicly about indigenous issues though. and other aboriginal players have had bananas thrown at themWhile you are throwing logical tests, plenty of Aboriginal players don't get booed too.
Because they don't speak up.While you are throwing logical tests, plenty of Aboriginal players don't get booed too.
so why dont selwood and brown get the same booing for diving? or ablett, fyfe and cunnington for being snipers?
Goodes was supported by the political, media and cultural class. When he was playing, as soon as he spoke up about racism, he got booed. He had been diving and playing aggressive before that. No, something politically significant happened, such, as, oh I don't know, making a country which hates being told about its racism being told about its racism. It's the only major change.You have taken my billycart.... put streamers on the handle bars ... and then criticized it for having streamers.
If it "just sounds like people were sick of being lectured about racism" to you then you didn't listen very well. Goodes was very strongly supported for his stance against racism, as well he should be.
You then go off an a tangent, perhaps one best reviewed by yourself.
Goodes was supported by the political, media and cultural class. When he was playing, as soon as he spoke up about racism, he got booed. He had been diving and playing aggressive before that. No, something politically significant happened, such, as, oh I don't know, making a country which hates being told about its racism being told about its racism. It's the only major change.
Now sure, not every fan is racist. That's why not every fan booed.
I am aware no industry types opposed him. That's not what we're arguing about. What we're arguing about is Goodes calls out someone for being racist, suddenly he gets booed heavily during games. Either people are racist or hate it when people spot out racism. All this talk about diving and school prefectish stuff is just excuse making and victim blaming.Goodes was really well supported for speaking out against racism. You would struggle to find anyone who had a peep to say against him on that. Maybe Eddie McGuire but I am not sure who else.
So if it hit peak level, that meant people were booing prior to then.The booing for Goodes hit peak level, after he kicked a regular set shot second quarter goal, in a dead rubber, vs bottom of the ladder Carlton, at the SCG, during indigenous round, and celebrated by seeking out the one bay full of opposition supporters, and performing a war dance, that was only created quite recently, toward them.
You wonder why some people felt he was hijacking the round to put himself front and centre by deliberately antagonising the Carlton fans in to responding in turn?
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So if it hit peak level, that meant people were booing prior to then.
And then we are to believe that people from other clubs booed him because he antagonised Carlton fans? Rightio.