List Mgmt. 2019 Trade Thread

[Snailspace13]

Ben Long is the exact type of player we should not trade. He’s already best 25 at worst & is only 21 yo. Room for growth is huge & projects to be at least best 15 on the list. Trading Long would end up being another McEvoy/Lynch (I know he requested trade) debacle. Really hope Gags & co have their s**t squared away.
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Ben has a contract until end of 2022,so i would say Gags & Co are on same page as you BRO

 

[Snailspace13]

Long has a contract till end of 2022,so i would say Gags &Co are on the same page as you BRO

 

[Grav]

I know we appear to have a plethora of half backs, but would we entertain the idea of targeting Riley Bonner?
A younger version of Shane Savage & would be the right age for when we are challenging.

 

[The Boar]

FIRST
Out: Steven
In: Geelong's late First.

SECOND
Out: Carlisle
In: Late first or early Second.

THIRD
Out: Two above picks (and maybe change)
In: Hills X 2.

FOURTH
FA: Tomlinson.

Losing Steven looks likely in one way or another. Carlisle to me still looks lazy and may be quality surplus with Battle, Clavarino and IF Tomlinson agrees to coming. Roberton is now a question mark but Wilkie is a gun which helps too.

IF POSSIBLE
Due to extreme injuries, 2nd round PP in.
Out: First and PP pick.
In: Papley and Sydney's First.

Aiming to retain a top ten pick, get a FA and some draft targets. Pie in the sky stuff. In reality, Constable for Steven and the Hills pick a different destination.

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[cooperrules]

Trade hanners to gc

 

[#gosaintas]

Steven should stay at Sandy for the rest of the year then we get whatever we can for him. Get games into those more committed to the Saints in the future.

 

[Mowman]

I’m usually a pessimist but with Ratten in charge I feel like i’ve been hit with a new lease on life.

Steven - Not bothered anymore, keep him in the VFL till seasons end and get us much as we can for him during the trade period. I don’t think he wants to be here anymore but he would be out proving to Geelong that he’s still got something left in the tank. Keep playing the likes of Coffield, Clark at his expense.

Hannebery - What’s the big deal, hasn’t worked out as hoped but what’s to say we didn’t strengthen certain areas of his body throughout the season. Let him have another crack at pre season and keep him fit enough to finish seasons end. It was always a long term deal and with our current position on the ladder we shouldn’t rush him back to try and prove his price tag. Fwiw I think we’ll benefit from Hannebery over the next few seasons.

King - I love you.

Long - He’d want to finish off the season with a bit of something, can’t say I’ve noticed any improvement in him yet.

Agree with every point

 

[plugger66]

We all know that 'captain obvious'! How is it a hyerbolic statement its the reality. You can stick you head in the sand and wiggle your little tail feathers all you like but he has played a total of 2 average games for the season.

How long do we have to wait until our miracle working medical team realise he is cooked ala Sydneys understandings?

Long playing better than Parker cough, are you kidding?

Well 2 coaches thought that. Just out of interest does the club do anything right. It just keeps going. It’s so boring.

 

[plugger66]

Steven should stay at Sandy for the rest of the year then we get whatever we can for him. Get games into those more committed to the Saints in the future.

Why should he stay at sandy? Has he confirmed he wants out? Is he our best player. Will he help us win. I’m surprised you didn’t go down the road you went 2 days ago. It’s amazing that a few continue to say he isn’t an automatic in once declared fit yet whinge that we only let him go if we get a good deal. Can’t thpse see they are opposite thoughts. Confusing

 

[plugger66]

Agree with every point

I thought you would not let Steven go unless we get a good deal. You are confusing me if you agree with what he says but hold that view. You are one of a fair few who seem to have counter views on 2 points.

Now I definitely not saying you but it comes across to me that people honestly think jack has picked and chosen when to play this year and thus are pissed off with him

 

[Mowman]

Why should he stay at sandy? Has he confirmed he wants out? Is he our best player. Will he help us win. I’m surprised you didn’t go down the road you went 2 days ago. It’s amazing that a few continue to say he isn’t an automatic in once declared fit yet whinge that we only let him go if we get a good deal. Can’t thpse see they are opposite thoughts. Confusing

But that's not what people are saying.
People are saying if he wants to leave and go to Geelong leave him in the 2s

 

[Mowman]

I thought you would not let Steven go unless we get a good deal. You are confusing me if you agree with what he says but hold that view. You are one of a fair few who seem to have counter views on 2 points.

Now I definitely not saying you but it comes across to me that people honestly think jack has picked and chosen when to play this year and thus are pi**ed off with him

Pretty sure the post I answered said we should get the best we can for him. anyhow not interested in getting into your trolling sessions

 

[plugger66]

But that's not what people are saying.
People are saying if he wants to leave and go to Geelong leave him in the 2s

But how do we know. Have you trusted the media every time. And do you think every single player that has been mentioned as leaving should play in the seconds of their club. Should we do it with Carlisle? You never do that if it hurts your chances of winning. There is only one reason he isn’t playing this week because he isn’t ready. He will play when ready and so he should. And fair value for a seconds player may be pick 50

 

[Diehard Saint]

But that's not what people are saying.
People are saying if he wants to leave and go to Geelong leave him in the 2s

I’d really prefer Stuv to stay.

However, if he does want to go to the Cats and he is able to play still this season, I want him to play, to increase his trade price as much as possible for us and also to help us get more wins to head into next season on a high.

Playing at Sandy for the rest of the year just ensures we get less for him in a trade.

 

[plugger66]

Pretty sure the post I answered said we should get the best we can for him. anyhow not interested in getting into your trolling sessions

Trolling? That’s how you work if questioned. How is it trolling when I 110% agree with what I’m saying as do others. If you can’t bothered then fine but don’t give me this trolling crap. It’s so immature

 

[plugger66]

Ok so we've established that he is more valuable to us than he is in a trade. Makes it pretty straight forward then... keep him unless we are blown away by an offer because he is still contracted.

It just won’t happen. It doesn’t happen. The club will 100% trade him if he wants to leave. I’m prepared to bet anything in it.

 

[plugger66]

FIRST
Out: Steven
In: Geelong's late First.

SECOND
Out: Carlisle
In: Late first or early Second.

THIRD
Out: Two above picks (and maybe change)
In: Hills X 2.

FOURTH
FA: Tomlinson.

Losing Steven looks likely in one way or another. Carlisle to me still looks lazy and may be quality surplus with Battle, Clavarino and IF Tomlinson agrees to coming. Roberton is now a question mark but Wilkie is a gun which helps too.

IF POSSIBLE
Due to extreme injuries, 2nd round PP in.
Out: First and PP pick.
In: Papley and Sydney's First.

Aiming to retain a top ten pick, get a FA and some draft targets. Pie in the sky stuff. In reality, Constable for Steven and the Hills pick a different destination.

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That sounds terrible to me. We go backwards by a fair way

 

[NeXus Nick]

If Jack Steven wants to go to Geelong he should stay in the reserves. Stuff Stuv. We then should demand a FRDP from the inbreds.

 

[plugger66]

Cue the nonsense arguments - but won't he stop Marshall from developing, why would he come to play at Sandy etc etc

You always say it’s nonsence arguments but do you think the club would tell a player who still wants to play ones every game you will be back up and he goes that’s fine. If that is the case then get them if not why would they come to us. How does our ruck and forward set up work if both play? Nonsense would suggest you are right. When longer was fit this year you wanted him in yet the club held firm with one ruck. They will continue to do that.

 

[Mowman]

Trolling? That’s how you work if questioned. How is it trolling when I 110% agree with what I’m saying as do others. If you can’t bothered then fine but don’t give me this trolling crap. It’s so immature

No immature are your 1st two post this morning. And haven’t you told me before you love throwing it out there and watching the reactions

 

[plugger66]

If Jack Steven wants to go to Geelong he should stay in the reserves. Stuff Stuv. We then should demand a FRDP from the inbreds.

For a seconds player? Just out of interest should hull play in the seconds at freo. Tomlinson at gws. Also how do we know he wants out. Do you trust the media on every story. And the big one is he also wanted out last year apparently. In hindsight should we have dropped him from the moment the story came out. How stupid would we have looked when he stayed. I cannot believe people think that players that may yes may be leaving should play seconds yet then ask for a top pick. How redicolous

 

[Mowman]

I’d really prefer Stuv to stay.

However, if he does want to go to the Cats and he is able to play still this season, I want him to play, to increase his trade price as much as possible for us and also to help us get more wins to head into next season on a high.

Playing at Sandy for the rest of the year just ensures we get less for him in a trade.

Yep all good points and Jack will come in when the club thinks he is good to go not when jack says

 

[plugger66]

No immature are your 1st two post this morning. And haven’t you told me before you love throwing it out there and watching the reactions

In some subjects yes but not on a very serious topic like this. As I just said to another I gather you wanted jack dropped last year when it was mentioned he wanted out. I think not one person did.

Notone of my posts are immature. I don’t get out of discussing things by calling them names. Trolling. What a joke.

 

[plugger66]

Yep all good points and Jack will come in when the club thinks he is good to go not when jack says

It will be a discussion and it will be up to jack. He is the only one who knows he is ready.

 

[Mowman]

In some subjects yes but not on a very serious topic like this. As I just said to another I gather you wanted jack dropped last year when it was mentioned he wanted out. I think not one person did.

Notone of my posts are immature. I don’t get out of discussing things by calling them names. Trolling. What a joke.

Read what you have just written you’re contradicting yourself