Best premiership side out of Bulldogs 2016, Richmond 2017 and West Coast 2018

[Duskfire]

It’s pretty funny that people (nuffies) just write off the Dogs 2016 because we finished 7th. Here are the win/loss records of the three teams:

2016 Dogs: 15-7 115%
2017 Tigers: 15-7 118%
2018 Eagles: 16-6 121%

Both the 2017 Tigers record and the Eagles 2018 record would have placed them at 7th in 2016, the same spot as the Dogs.

And we did what we did with a pretty miserable injury run during the H&A. I think if we hadn’t lost Murphy, Macrae, Libba, Dahlhaus, Wallis, and others for long stretches we might have won another game or two. But ultimately it didn’t matter.

IMO 2016 was the most competitive at the top end, of the three years. Sydney, Hawthorn and Geelong still hadn’t tailed off (both Hawthorn and Sydney would drop the next year), GWS were at their absolute peak (it has since turned out), Adelaide were nearly at their peak. Even the Eagles in 6th were coming off a grand final and would drop off in 2017.

At the end of the day, I love that we did it from 7th in a ridiculously competive year, winning four consecutive finals, across three states, and knocking off 3/4 of the top 4. It was awesome. And unlikely to soon be repeated.

No disrespect to the Tigs & Eagles either, as they were both great sides and worthy premiers with arguments to be made for each of them (I’m not answering the thread question), just pointing out some things that get ignored about the Dogs and 2016.

Agreed. Was a very even year, and Bulldogs played well all season. There was only a couple of games that were substantial losses if I recall. People act like Bulldogs came out of nowhere when after watching that season numerous times, they were in up to their necks in most games.

 

[bh90210fan]

Please if it wasn't for the umps Richmond would have won by more

Sooking about umpires the Richmond way

 

[Captain_Bender]

Sooking about umpires the Richmond way

Yeah but unlike West Coast, Richmond win without the assistance of them

 

[Scotland]

Yeah but unlike West Coast, Richmond win without the assistance of them

Unlike Richmond, West Coast win away from home.

 

[Captain_Bender]

Unlike Richmond, West Coast win away from home.

And lol who have West Coast beat away this year?

 

[bh90210fan]

Yeah but unlike West Coast, Richmond win without the assistance of them

West Coast and the dogs overcame travel and injuries in their premiership seasons, Richmond were lucky they didn’t have to leave the mcg in September otherwise they were rooted

 

[BennyGan]

its eagles and not even close, the other 2 just hit form late and in the finals, the eagles were at least legit all season in 2018

 

[Dazzler9]

And lol who have West Coast beat away this year?

Collingwood
Hawthorn
Adelaide
Carlton
Melbourne
Saints

And this week we can add Richmond to the list

 

[Scotland]

And lol who have West Coast beat away this year?

This year: Collingwood, St Kilda, Adelaide, Hawthorn, Melbourne, Carlton + Freo which in Richmondland would be considered an away game.

We haven't won the premiership this year, though. Last year we were 5/5 in Melbourne and also won in Brisbane, Adelaide and Sydney.

 

[Captain_Bender]

Collingwood
Hawthorn
Adelaide
Carlton
Melbourne
Saints

And this week we can add Richmond to the list

This year: Collingwood, St Kilda, Adelaide, Hawthorn, Melbourne, Carlton + Freo which in Richmondland would be considered an away game.

We haven't won the premiership this year, though. Last year we were 5/5 in Melbourne and also won in Brisbane, Adelaide and Sydney.

1 top 8 team which you undone by losing to at home, what a great away record that must be

 

[Scotland]

1 top 8 team which you undone by losing to at home, what a great away record that must be

As opposed to Richmond's wonderful record away from Melbourne?

 

[BennyGan]

This year: Collingwood, St Kilda, Adelaide, Hawthorn, Melbourne, Carlton + Freo which in Richmondland would be considered an away game.

We haven't won the premiership this year, though. Last year we were 5/5 in Melbourne and also won in Brisbane, Adelaide and Sydney.

if he wants to talk about this year, then why dont we talk about how the tigers have lost 6 times this year by over 30 points

 

[Captain_Bender]

As opposed to Richmond's wonderful record away from Melbourne?

Yet have beat the same amount of top 8 sides away

 

[Captain_Bender]

if he wants to talk about this year, then why dont we talk about how the tigers have lost 6 times this year by over 30 points

Add a fit Rance and Riewoldt to those loses and Richmond win most of them

 

[BennyGan]

Add a fit Rance and Riewoldt to those loses and Richmond win most of them

injuries happen, if nic nat is healthy eagles are much better than they are now

 

[Coaster2012]

Add a fit Rance and Riewoldt to those loses and Richmond win most of them

Yeah cause WC had no injuries last finals series. Just take of your biased glasses just once.

 

[Corkintheocean]

Add a fit Rance and Riewoldt to those loses and Richmond win most of them

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[Goomba1973]

Mostly assisted by the umpires, the Eagle way

ahhhh, that old chestnut sprouted by a bias view of a side that lost and lost convincingly. We could go through that same game and find 20 line calls or errors by the umps going both ways. Its all swings and roundabouts some go your way some do not but it tends to even out in the end.

 

[AstuteTiger]

Unlike Richmond, West Coast win away from home.

Please stop talking s**t. This year tigers have won 3 from 5, last year we did lose them granted and the year before 2017 we won 4 from 6, should've been 5 with that non-goal given to Bolton and we lost by a few points.

One would think the number of times your mob travels eventually u would get it right

 

[Coaster2012]

In the year they won it, clearly West Coast. They had a higher H&A position than the other 2 teams in the year they won it which shows they were better for more of the season and they were also the only one of the three to go into the GF as favourite. WB won the Grand Final as the underdog, as did Richmond. WC won as favourite. That level of expectation BEFORE Grand Final day shows where their season was rated if you ignore the fact of their premiership.

They had also beaten all their main competitors for the flag before Grand Final day which shows sustained high level performances.

Richmond was a better side in 2018 than they were in 2017 (despite an obvious issue playing away from the G), but that has nothing to do with their 2017 Premiership and is therefore irrelevant in this discussion.

In what world were WC the favourites in the GF? No one expected them to win. Pies were $1.60 to win it.

 

[AstuteTiger]

We haven't won the premiership this year, though. Last year we were 5/5 in Melbourne

5 from 5 in Melb who the heck did u beat other than the pies? eagles sound like swans supporters who were going on about their record at marvel when they were about to play us, after some investigation, they played all cellar-dwellers over several years and when they played us they lost last year and this year.

 

[AstuteTiger]

And this week we can add Richmond to the list

LOL i think we'll add the eagles to our conquered list on the G, 30 wins from last 33
Even without rance and cotchin im very confident we'll get the choccies.
Yes i know you're missing nicnat but hickey has been doing very well. Good pick up!

 

[mattwa]

That gws team in 16 we beat in the prelim was extremely good

 

[Lsta062]

its eagles and not even close, the other 2 just hit form late and in the finals, the eagles were at least legit all season in 2018

Richmond hit form so late in the season that they spent 15/23 rounds of 2017 in the top 4?

Richmond also destroyed all of the top 4 sides by 36+ points in the finals, something that neither Western Bulldogs nor West Coast did.

 

[Scotland]

5 from 5 in Melb who the heck did u beat other than the pies? eagles sound like swans supporters who were going on about their record at marvel when they were about to play us, after some investigation, they played all cellar-dwellers over several years and when they played us they lost last year and this year.

Bulldogs, Hawthorn, Carlton, Collingwood x 2. Can only beat who we play... I mean two of those teams finished in the top 4 and the only other team we could've played was Richmond who we beat in Perth.

Richmond in 2017 lost to Geelong at KP, lost to GWS at Spotless and got flogged by Adelaide at AO. Bizarre that it's Round 22 and you haven't played Brisbane or WC yet.