Recommitted Tim Kelly [requested a trade to West Coast]

[Kwality]

WCE don’t do these things like trying to poach players one yr into a contract , the Kelly camp obviously aroused WCE interests and why wouldn’t they be interested if Kelly wanted out of Victoria..
WCE tried to facilitate a trade which may seem like poaching to people who do not understand..



On iPhone using BigFooty.com mobile app

Its Bay 13 stuff: the other mob have done the wrong thing, they are trying to screw us.

In the Kelly case a minority of Cats fans cant accept Ms Kelly wants to go home, see it as a rejection of their footy club, when anyone of sound mind knows its reality.
Most footy fans understand professional clubs like Geelong are quick to extend the contracts of recruits, this year it was April 9 when Jordan Clark signed a new contract, did Geelong not know very early on on 2018 that he (Kelly) was not happy to re sign, as I say Bay 13 stuff .... what should Kellys manager do, he works for Kelly not any club, should he not ...

 

[Kwality]

does that suggest a Hill - JJ exchange?

JJ is well rooted in the Melbourne lifestyle.

 

[Mikevk123]

If the Eagles Land Kelly by god will that midfield be OP. Shuey, Yeo, Sheed, Gaff and Kelly

 

[Kwality]

If the Eagles Land Kelly by god will that midfield be OP. Shuey, Yeo, Sheed, Gaff and Kelly

Be sure Coniglio is not off the radar, just if he decides to go home.

 

[Freoforever86]

Both have made good offers if you believe what has been reported. Our high picks are going to give Geelong good leverage over WC. I think we will only come into the picture if WC can't satisfy Geelong, then Geelong will try and push Kelly our way or try to convince him to stay again. If he is really keen to come home this time, and he can't get to WC, he will accept us, I think.

That’s what I’m thinking also. Unless Freos offer ends up significantly more than WCEs, which could happen if hill requests out.

 

[apuchar]

That’s what I’m thinking also. Unless Freos offer ends up significantly more than WCEs, which could happen if hill requests out.

Yeah good point. That will free up a bit extra.

 

[Suma Magic]

Should have somehow got this done last season the eagles.

Will now cost 2 firsts with perhaps a late pick going back but can’t see how it’ll be for less than that.

That’s less than what they wanted last year. We refused to hand over 20, 22 and a first rounder.

 

[nurries]

I'd swap three and four around; while I'm sure he doesn't want to screw over Geelong, he will still put all his priorities first, just as Geelong would put their first.

fair point. Point 4 can change quickly though depending on a lot more variables

 

[Obeanie1]

Kind of goes both ways though, are WC all talk to try and lure Kelly home for much of 2018 but then actually fail to get the deal done. You can act like they are the good guys just trying to get TK home to his family but we all know if TK had an average year last year then they would have had no interest in trying to poach him last year.

Lure Tim home?

Pretty sure you are ignoring the issue. Tim's family situation is driving the need / want to return home not the Eagles.

Tim was courted by the Eagles pre draft, Freo didn't make an effort to talk to him. Rumour is this is one of the reasons he prefers the Eagles.

As for making a commitment to trade for him I would be stunned if the Eagles unconditionally promised to get him home no matter what Geelong demanded.

"Tim we will get you home no matter what the cost!"

The post you originally replied to was discussing the difference between the coaches and their views on family. Simpson is a family first coach. Last year his daughter was sick so he flew home and handed the game day role to his assistants. His statement "family always comes first".

Scott's comments on Steven's at the Saints wasn't so favourable towards family concerns.

Like I said Scott needs to tread carefully when commenting on family needs versus player contracts.

 

[Turboman1994]

AFL Trades Deadline Day Wrap: Dylan Shiel, Dayne Beams, Tim Kelly and more

A frenetic final thirty minutes has seen big names Dylan Shiel and Dayne Beams get to Essendon and Collingwood respectively in the 2018 AFL…

www.theroar.com.au

lol they did it last trade period...Freo offered pick 14 for him even though he nominated WC

Not sure whats more embarrassing, posters telling me it didnt happen or posters cant remember 8 months ago

sorry if facts counter your 'silly' opinion

There were late rumblings that Fremantle were willing to offer pick 14 for Kelly if he would agree to join the Dockers, but nothing ultimately came of this.

Unfounded rumours and it was under the provision that he would want to join them.

Try again

 

[BartBart]

More than WCE want to pay and less than Geelong want to get so probably about right.

I get the feeling that in last year's trade period the non-negotiable price for Geelong was the 2018 Premiership Cup.

Not sure if their asking price for Geelong will be any less this time.

 

[HFF]

That’s less than what they wanted last year. We refused to hand over 20, 22 and a first rounder.

20 and 22 are second rounders though really. They picked him at 24.......
I’d rather have somehow managed to package picks in the 20s than having to pay 2 firsts now when he’s having a Brownlow fancy season

 

[Numero Uno]

There were late rumblings that Fremantle were willing to offer pick 14 for Kelly if he would agree to join the Dockers, but nothing ultimately came of this.

Unfounded rumours and it was under the provision that he would want to join them.

Try again

shifting the goal posts
all i stated was that Freo tried to poach Kelly even though he nominated WC..several posters stated they didn't including yourself who stated it was 'silly'

well done on proving yourself wrong

ps I wont bother showing you the video i found of Peter Bell stating on the 1st day of the trade period Freo were interested in Kelly

dum dum

 

[Turboman1994]

shifting the goal posts
all i stated was that Freo tried to poach Kelly even though he nominated WC..several posters stated they didn't including yourself who stated it was 'silly'

well done on proving yourself wrong

ps I wont bother showing you the video i found of Peter Bell stating on the 1st day of the trade period Freo were interested in Kelly

dum dum

Course Fremantle are interested they would of done there due diligence however I find it incredibly unlikely they tried to upsurpt west coast

 

[foxdog50]

Exactly. The clubs will make sure they pay fair price (as you mentioned Lobb etc) but there’s no undermining.

OP pretending there’s some huge issue haha

Well what do you think is a fair deal than?

 

[Suma Magic]

20 and 22 are second rounders though really. They picked him at 24.......
I’d rather have somehow managed to package picks in the 20s than having to pay 2 firsts now when he’s having a Brownlow fancy season

We turned those two second rounders (and a third rounder) into four second rounders on draft night last year. So two very late first rounders is a significantly better result from our perspective.

 

[Bay Pie]

Tricky situation now, if reported thinking is to be believed. Kelly wants WCE but hasn't ruled out Freo.

Freo have better picks. Geelong knows that. Why deal with WCE unless they beat Freo's offer somehow? Come last day of trade period Geelong says to Kelly, sorry mate can't get you WCE but we'll do a deal with Freo. Kelly says yes.

WCE will pay through the nose. It'll take plenty to beat Freo's 1st pick.

How did Kelly's manager allow him to say this? Perhaps a little ticked off at WCE after last year and making sure they just offer up and get the deal done this time????

 

[Warhorse]

We turned those two second rounders (and a third rounder) into four second rounders on draft night last year. So two very late first rounders is a significantly better result from our perspective.

Last year's draft significantly stronger

 

[eastfreo75]

Tricky situation now, if reported thinking is to be believed. Kelly wants WCE but hasn't ruled out Freo.

Freo have better picks. Geelong knows that. Why deal with WCE unless they beat Freo's offer somehow? Come last day of trade period Geelong says to Kelly, sorry mate can't get you WCE but we'll do a deal with Freo. Kelly says yes.

WCE will pay through the nose. It'll take plenty to beat Freo's 1st pick.

How did Kelly's manager allow him to say this? Perhaps a little ticked off at WCE after last year and making sure they just offer up and get the deal done this time????

does not work like that.

Kelly will decide on West Coast and will go for unders.

Cats will use the picks to trade for other players.

 

[Bay Pie]

does not work like that.

Kelly will decide on West Coast and will go for unders.

Cats will use the picks to trade for other players.

Players normally nominate one club and one club only. Then your scenario comes true. Kelly hasn't done that here. Remember Dylan Shiel saying how close he came to switching to carlton at the last minute to get his move back home, before Ess coughed a kings ransom for him. I'm expecting a similar situation here unless WCE offer up plenty, earlier then the last day of trade period. That allows Geelong time to do other deals.

 

[Freoforever86]

Well what do you think is a fair deal than?

For the eagles, Maybe their 1st pick and a player.

For Freo pick 5 or 6 whatever it ends up plus a later pick maybe. Though if talks break down with WCE, prob just 5 or 6

 

[Take my logue]

Freos going after JJ again aren’t they. Does that pave the way for the Eagles and Kelly ?

Who?

 

[Taylor]

Freos going after JJ again aren’t they. Does that pave the way for the Eagles and Kelly ?

That would be the reddit scam trade suggestion designed to suck people in from all the way back in 2016

 

[Yamumluvsbigcox]

If the Eagles Land Kelly by god will that midfield be OP. Shuey, Yeo, Sheed, Gaff and Kelly

You forgot masten

 

[Yamumluvsbigcox]

Players normally nominate one club and one club only. Then your scenario comes true. Kelly hasn't done that here. Remember Dylan Shiel saying how close he came to switching to carlton at the last minute to get his move back home, before Ess coughed a kings ransom for him. I'm expecting a similar situation here unless WCE offer up plenty, earlier then the last day of trade period. That allows Geelong time to do other deals.

The difference is sheil was contracted but kelly is not .