Bluemour Discussion Thread XVIII - Please Sir, Can We Have More?

[Coops93]

Sorry guys, and sorry tencentpiece for having to call it out, but TCP has never gotten anything right in and of themselves. Latches onto other reliable rumour mongers and media whisperers early and rides the wave by crafting their own narrative, in my experience.

I followed them early days in their career and there were loads more misses than hits. Not an attack on them, just a word of caution to my other fellow rumour seekers.

What rumour monger has ever been the only one to get a call right in and of themselves? Generally 2 or 3, maybe more, people confirm it before it happens. The only one I can remember is EP calling Shiel to Essendon, outside of that everything of corroborated several times before it comes out.

Seems a weak argument for thinking he's not good.

 

[barass70]

Coniglio still undecided but more likely to stay.

 

[Mister Carlton]

dead rabbits.

 

[Blue__Balls]

Coniglio still undecided but more likely to stay.

Which is exactly what his manager would be telling us if he wanted to try and squeeze out one more little increase on our offer...

State of play folks - always changing.

No decision means we're still at the table

 

[teknodeejay]

Coniglio still undecided but more likely to stay.

This smells of Gil Corruptlan.

 

[El Topo]

What rumour monger has ever been the only one to get a call right in and of themselves? Generally 2 or 3, maybe more, people confirm it before it happens. The only one I can remember is EP calling Shiel to Essendon, outside of that everything of corroborated several times before it comes out.

Seems a weak argument for thinking he's not good.

MS3 called the Tuohy trade before anyone on here or in the media knew it would even be within the rules.

 

[Blueboys7]

So with Swans after Joe Daniher they may require another pick inside 10 hence maybe why our pick 7/8 May be required to help that trade.Papley might still be on.

Papley on the cards for sure.

 

[Burgers45]

Coniglio still undecided but more likely to stay.

Hope your info is wrong this time B70.

 

[Manhattanite]

While Cogs may stay with the Giants I do think there’s reasons other than money which will pry him away including:
Cameron seems to be the wrong coach
Their medical staff have been poor with all their players and let Cogs play this year with an injury which got worse in the next game and he’s missed months because of that
His teammates seem to be more about earning money than playing for each other and winning a flag - it’s unlikely they would take say a $100K pay cut to lure another player to the team like the Pies and Cats have done for example
They didn’t make him Captain this season which is what was expected - and there’s no guarantee he will be captain next season either
He wasn’t keen on joining the Giants - in fact he almost didn’t enter the draft so he could avoid going there
And yet he’s been the most professional and committed player there since then - which means most others don’t really have their heart in it
They also don’t have the depth required and the role players - too many stars and conditional players and not enough B grade players who bust their gut every week


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[barass70]

Coniglio is coming if he decides to leave GWS.

 

[WalshYouLegend]

That rabbit stew is still bubbling until the fat lady sings.

 

[Manhattanite]

Coniglio is coming if he decides to leave GWS.

Thanks. Please tell us more about Martin, Papley, Crouch, Wines, Ellis and Gray. Which of those are back ups to Coniglio or to each other?


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[BuxbaumBixby]

Coniglio still undecided but more likely to stay.

Does the club have any opinion on Gil's relationship with Cogs and whether his "influence" is contributing to the decision making process?

 

[barass70]

Does the club have any opinion on Gil's relationship with Cogs and whether his "influence" is contributing to the decision making process?

Maybe more..

 

[I bleed Blue]

Coniglio is coming if he decides to leave GWS.

Good news. Every day this drags out is better for us. If he was going to sign with gws he would just sign

 

[macky99]

Coniglio still undecided but more likely to stay.

How is that any different to one week ago, when most people were saying it is done deal, people are just becoming inpatient and expecting a definite answer now, not sure anybody would know for certain except Coniglio and his manager.

 

[Bearded Carpenter]

I’d love us to build up momentum with what we have and some solid picks/trades rather than think 1 bloke coming in will make all the difference, especially having to pay that bloke what is described as one of the largest contracts in the afl history.

The pressure on him, the pressure on the decision makers, the pressure it puts on the list. That ****ed thinking.

Let’s win multiple flags without thinking we need to bringing the messiah to do it.

We have elite talent on our list that’s about to ****ing explode.

I’d love Coniglio, but perhaps we are not ready for him.

Let’s get up the ladder with what we’ve got plus some solid picks/trades and get in a position where the top talent want us more than we want/need them.

I want players that play for the jumper not the cash.

If we do land him I’ll still be doing the pants down helicopter.

 

[gbatman]

Lack of definitive information and any information from ITK posters suggests it's mid/late August and the home and away season hasn't finished yet let alone finals and the commencement of the trade/free agency period is miles away which suggests there is not much to know yet.

I would think that the most that has happened at this stage would be that there has been some manager contact and that we may have had some initial contact with players.

I would think we are at the expression of interest stage with player recruitment. Talk to players and managers, give an offer and see what players are interested. We'll be seeing if the players will want to explore coming to us further.

Players would need to do a club tours, meet everyone and go throughout the medicals before any decisions are made, especially when dealing with players who are not disgruntled with their current clubs. Doubt that has happened yet. Players have probably met with SOS maybe one or two others but doubt much more.

Guys like Coniglio and even Martin are likely happy at their current club, they will be moving for better opportunity (more money/success) and will want to be sure that is what they are getting before making decisions. They will need to investigate us further which wouldn't have happened yet before committing to things.

I really doubt someone like Coniglio has made a decision until he goes through the process of touring the clubs and meeting the people there and assessing all the deals which I doubt gets done until after the season.

I think at this stage, if we have an expression of interest from a player, which in August is about the most you can expect from a player who is not disgruntled at their current club is the most you can hope for.

I don't think any player would have committed to joining us. I think there would be plenty of players out there who have committed to explore the option of joining us and they will tour and meet later on at a more appropriate time.

On Coniglio, I think he has met with us and we have put forward an offer and he has expressed interest and will explore that further later. I think all the rumors and chinese whispers have probably translated players taking an interest in us and being willing to explore coming to us and other clubs as that player wanting to come to us, wanting to go elsewhere, wanting to stay.

I believe with Coniglio we are a chance and he will explore coming to us but that's as far as it's probably gone. He's probably willing to explore other clubs like Hawthorn which is a player being diligent.

I would think that when the time comes and if our deal is the most impressive and the other clubs don't exceed us in the tour and meet department then we will be a very good chance but until then I would thing our potential recruits are booked in for a meet and tour with us and other clubs and until then nothing will happen.

Think we are going to have to be patient and wait for things to happen. Give things time to happen.

Doubt our ITK posters and even the club are sure on anything because I doubt the potential recruits are sure yet. Confident maybe but sure, not yet.

 

[ESKIE]

How is that any different to one week ago, when most people were saying it is done deal, people are just becoming inpatient and expecting a definite answer now, not sure anybody would know for certain except Coniglio and his manager.

In negotiations.. things change

Constantly

 

[Aphrodite]

Here's a rundown for ya fb..

So first, news that Giants don't need to match front loaded offer. KingCharles be like..

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Then it was mentioned Martin was probably headed to the Dogs.. ole KC was all..

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Then it was revealed Papley was only 50/50 and KingCharlie

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Then some poster from the Hawks Board called Tyler Soze or Keyser Durdin said Cogs chose Hawks.. Charlie didnt handle it well..

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A few of us told him to calm down. Then the news that the sum of our trading week would net us the grand prize of Ellis got too much..

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And that's about it mate..

 

[teknodeejay]

If we do land him I’ll still be doing the pants down helicopter.

there's a launchpad for such activity on the banks of the Yarra opposite Crown.

 

[Sam The Doc]

Coniglio is coming if he decides to leave GWS.

Serenity now!!!

 

[resolute_blue]

Good news. Every day this drags out is better for us. If he was going to sign with gws he would just sign

This is what I reckon also. It would be a great news story for GWS on the cusp of finals to have such an announcement made. Would only benefit them. Can't think of a logical reason for a delay unless he's genuinely undecided still OR he's keen on us and just waiting for their 2019 campaign to be finished before announcing so...

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Can we got someone to print up some 'Up Yours Gil' bumper stikers like those Footscray fans did for Ross Oakley all those years ago ?
Asking for a friend

 

[skadoosh]

Coniglio is coming if he decides to leave GWS.

I'm curious...why did we have so many posters come out and seem quite confident of landing him, if your last 2 posts are true? Were we just excited because we knew had a big offer? Was there any indication of leaning to us? Just makes all those rumour posts from last week seem strange if he actually hadn't told us anything like you mentioned.