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I haven’t seen too many YouTube vids of female cops pulling out their shooters.
Why? Interesting question you put forward innit?
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Geez, things have become so ****ed up down there. The girls can't be objectified, but it's ok for the men. FFS!
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'Ring girls' are out of Battle of Bendigo bout
Promoters of the Horn v Zerafa fight in the central Victorian city have replaced the 'traditional' ring girls with men.
Even better, the girls who were replaced still get paid, despite not actually doing the job...Geez, things have become so ****ed up down there. The girls can't be objectified, but it's ok for the men. FFS!
'Ring girls' are out of Battle of Bendigo bout
Promoters of the Horn v Zerafa fight in the central Victorian city have replaced the 'traditional' ring girls with men.
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Maybe that's because they didn't lower standards and impose gender quotas to advantage women at the expense of men who were better qualified/suited for those positions, like what they've done with law enforcement, military, the fire department, the corporate world, and now STEM fields.
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Maybe.
Do you think there was ever a need for quotas?
I do. I think that there was a long period of time where women who were better qualified (but not suited) were overlooked for men. (because men were better suited).
I don't believe it happens in anywhere near the same capacity, if at all anymore.
But I think helping to remove the view that it's a male career, and entice more women into positions they are just as capable of is overall a good thing.
Finding a balance between turning it into a viable path for women, without disadvantaging men, is a very complex situation.
I think there should be more done to get men into nursing, teaching, veterinarian etc. I don't think I've seen any active campaigns, or advantages given to men for those positions.
But I also haven't really seen any push back either.
Possibly a controversial view in this thread...
Historically I think society has viewed women as not good enough for some positions, whereas some positions were viewed as not good enough for men.
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A job that for a long time, women weren't viewed as good enough for.
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Given bricklayers get paid per brick, it would make an interesting analysis of the gender wage gap.
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I'm not sure about quotas.
There are incentives across the construction industry. But I don't know any specifics about bricklaying.
I've not heard any push back or outrage about it if there are.
https://www.becomeabricklayer.com.au/female-apprenticeship-success-stories/
It's kinda weird given they took away the employment of women but weren't the men something like 'fight progress managers'. It wasn't like they went like for like per se.Geez, things have become so ****ed up down there. The girls can't be objectified, but it's ok for the men. FFS!
'Ring girls' are out of Battle of Bendigo bout
Promoters of the Horn v Zerafa fight in the central Victorian city have replaced the 'traditional' ring girls with men.
But yeah, huge overreach from the Bendigo city councilors and they made a fool of themselves on the national stage.
Or maybe it’s a job that women (in general) never really wanted to do?
True, this is why I got into sales, I’d work nights and weekends a lot and also be on call, s**t life.
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I agree. Why didn't they want to do it?
Just because it was hard, or because it wasn't a job for women? Both, or other reasons?
Who knows? I wouldn’t think that bricklaying is highly sought after by anyone, it appears to be really hard yakka. So if a woman was competent and really wanted to do it and would earn good money from their employer I don’t think said employer would gaf her gender.
Think about it: women want quotas for highly sought after jobs in large corporations, not for dangerous, hard labour ones. Why do you imagine that might be?
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More female Cops is a good thing, stops a lot of police brutality. Female Cops don't react with testorone, they talk things through. Much better for the public.
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Is that true?
A poster earlier was complaining about its implementation in "direct combat roles" in the ADF. Isn't that dangerous and hard labour?
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